Free Parts for school - Los Angeles area

Try Cal Poly Pomona and
Don Bosco Technical Institute (626) 940-2038
The ideal for most schools is a quantity of the same part so they can wrap a
lesson around it.
Pasadena City Collage is starting a robotics class and can use small motors
and steppers. Cal Poly Pomona will also take Printers for the motors they
contain.
Another possibility is the electronics swap meet at Cal Poly Pomona (third
Saturday of month) and Chino Hills High School first Sunday starting Sept. 7
http://www.chhsmusic.com/electswap.html

Dan Fraser <dmfraser@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3F2D44A6.CA1CE5ED@sbcglobal.net...
I started as an electronic hobbyist but I've moved up the food chain and
do it for a living now. I work at a decent size company, designing
electronics for the professional entertainment industry. However,
because I don't want to turn around and do more of it when I get home I
find I have not touched my garage full of electronics for quite some
time.

Hence I have a lot of surplus electronics and components. Is there a
trade school or maybe even a high school electronics instructor in the
greater Los Angeles area who would like a truck load of parts and all
manner of whole and partially whole electronics for the students to
practice with.

A lot of it is oriented towards audio or building disco type lighting
controllers. I also have some supplies for making your own PCBs.

Please call me or e-mail me at dmfraser@sbcglobal.net

--
Dan Fraser

From Costa Mesa in sunny California
949-631-7535 Cell 714-420-7535

Check out my electronic schematics site at:
http://www.schematicsforfree.com
If you are into cars check out www.roadsters.com
 
About the user who suggested a few places or the swap meet. Thanks for
your input. Unfortunately I have mostly singles of a lot of stuff. Very
few items to build class wide lessons around. What I have is best for
projects where each student builds a different project.

I thought about the swap meets that go on almost every week around LA
but you have to get to them at like 6 AM to get a spot and I live a good
1/2 hour from the nearest one. Now if they started at a civilized hour
like 10 AM, I'd be there. I'm just too much of a night owl. Heck, even
on a work day I don't get up until 6:30 let alone be anywhere. I wonder
how they ended up starting so early?

Besides, I'd just as soon give the stuff away considering the tiny
amount you get for it at the swap meet and there's the dragging your
butt out of bed at 5 AM for the swap meet. How do the other people do it?
--

Dan Fraser

From Costa Mesa in sunny California
949-631-7535 Cell 714-420-7535

Check out my electronic schematics site at: http://www.schematicsforfree.com
If you are into cars check out www.roadsters.com
 
Ken Finney wrote:

Your English is better than many Americans!

How is the technical education system in Italy? In the US, for the most
part, they
have always tried to force all students into to take "book learning" rather
than
classes that would allow them to persue a trade.
Interestingly enough, Italy has a tax loophole that promotes selling
'thinks' as news items on newsstands. DVDs, collectible figured, that
kind of crap.

During my holiday there I however also noticed a series with 'build your
own robot'. The parts in that issue seemed to be a plastic bumper and
some kind of sensor with a twisted wire pair and a connector pre-attached.

Another series was a more general electronics experimenters kit. I think
that 'issue' contained a transistor or 2. This was the kind of kit where
components are mounted under springed studs.

The trick is that these are expensive, if you add up all the issues
required. But it is nice to see this...

I think the robot will end up like this: http://realrobots.ideahobby.it/

The more general stuff may have been another publisher.


Thomas
 
Thanks for the comment on my English being better than most Americans.
Part of the benefit of a good Canadian education. I have a lot of good
friends here in the old US of A and I have a great job here but my 16
year old daughter, to really learn math and physics, I had to send her
to summer school in Vancouver. And having a Canadian education up to
grade 8, read better then (she's in grade 12 now) that her over half her
peers and basically skipped a grade too.

She challenged her economics exam after 3 days in the senior economics
course and passed the final exam. She also passed the high school exit
exam first try with a score in the 100th per centile in the English
portion. Yet almost 1/2 of her class mates failed. Oh yes, she was sick
that year and studied at home on independent study and did both grades
10 and 11 in one year because the course material was so easy. She had
no actual classroom instruction at all. Just what she read and I taught her.

Says something about American education, specially here in California.

--
Dan Fraser

From Costa Mesa in sunny California
949-631-7535 Cell 714-420-7535

Check out my electronic schematics site at: http://www.schematicsforfree.com
If you are into cars check out www.roadsters.com
 
In my experience, US public schools have lots of problems: teachers are
constantly harrassed by anti-unionist school boards, classes aren't tailored
to individual needs, there's too much of an emphasis on sports (gets worse
in college) and generally speaking the concept of nurturing is
suppressed: the attitude is more that education is a privilege and
we should be thankful. I think this is a fundamental difference between
US society, with its anti-socialist bent, and social-democratic
societies like Canada and Europe.

But that difference, if real, doesn't prove that Canadian or European
systems produce better workers necessarily: I've heard the opposite
is true and my dealings with European college grads in particular have
provided me with some evidence to support the claim that Europeans suffer from
a lack of an ability to think independently or to take control.

The American approach may not be great, but it could be the lesser of
two evils. In my opinion the best approach is more along the
lines of what you see in some American independent schools--ones which
don't use grades and where students are more self-directed.
 
I have noted that most school systems are set up to turn out good
employees. They tend to take away that fire that results in independent
thinkers. Possibly because the US school system is not as good as the
Canadian, it does a worse job at molding people into good employees.
Therefore, those who are self motivated may be more willing to take risks.

School systems in social democratic countries, because they are better,
also mean they may be better at suppressing the entrepenureal spirit?

My conclusion is that the US appears to accept that in order to have
more high flying eagles, you have to be more willing to accept more
pigeons too.

Boy, has this thread ever gone off topic!

Dan
 
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Dan Fraser wrote:

I have noted that most school systems are set up to turn out good
employees. They tend to take away that fire that results in independent
thinkers. Possibly because the US school system is not as good as the
Canadian, it does a worse job at molding people into good employees.
Therefore, those who are self motivated may be more willing to take risks.

Yet Japan's current reform movement is based on the American model of
education precisly because they wish to encourage independent thinking
and risk taking.
 
Dan Fraser wrote:
I have noted that most school systems are set up to turn out good
employees. They tend to take away that fire that results in independent
thinkers. Possibly because the US school system is not as good as the
Canadian, it does a worse job at molding people into good employees.
Therefore, those who are self motivated may be more willing to take risks.

School systems in social democratic countries, because they are better,
also mean they may be better at suppressing the entrepenureal spirit?
------------------
You just mean thievery!

Better cultures correct the self-esteem problems that lead to greed.


My conclusion is that the US appears to accept that in order to have
more high flying eagles, you have to be more willing to accept more
pigeons too.
---------------------
YOU just don't grasp that what you are talking about are buzzards,
or other opportunistic trash birds, like gulls.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public
 
Dan Fraser wrote:

I have noted that most school systems are set up to turn out good
employees. They tend to take away that fire that results in independent
thinkers. Possibly because the US school system is not as good as the
Canadian, it does a worse job at molding people into good employees.
Therefore, those who are self motivated may be more willing to take risks.

School systems in social democratic countries, because they are better,
also mean they may be better at suppressing the entrepenureal spirit?

My conclusion is that the US appears to accept that in order to have
more high flying eagles, you have to be more willing to accept more
pigeons too.
ISTR "How can I fly with the eagles when I work with a bunch of turkeys?"

Boy, has this thread ever gone off topic!

Dan


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