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It aint. It aint got ACCC approval yet and wont get it either.On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:52:42 +1000, terryc
newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
On 12/06/12 01:44, Frank Slootweg wrote:
"The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN"
is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
Now Testra is part of it
Fuck all will get done in the 15 months its got left.this will be a lot quicker than Rod and Frank think
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:jr60cc$1u3$1@dont-email.me...
On 12/06/12 01:44, Frank Slootweg wrote:
"The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN" is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
But they *do not* provide it, i.e. (basic affordable) broadband *whereOn 11 Jun 2012 15:44:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid
wrote:
Most in Australia do not have a good copperwire connection though.
This is being replaced by the NBN where every home will have a fibre
optic link. No copperwire at all. Don't see your point
whoosh
My point is that Oz does *not* need "the NBN", but *does* need basic
affordable broadband where it's currently not available. *That* is the
problem and "the NBN" is not solving *that* problem. "The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Those that count (Government agree) say we do?
The *point* is that every house will NOT have "a different communicationOriginally intended by PM John Howard early 2000. As private operators
were slow to take it up the Rudd Labor Government decided that it
would be done as part of his stimulus package. The economics show
Australia can afford it. I'm in a very much Liberal Electorate and a
big issue is that voters in our and surrounding electorates that won't
be hooked up next year are screaming. So it is political suicide to
stop it's progress. Malcolm Turnbull a senior Liberal has invested
heavily in the NBN going ahead.
Sydney had the
same stupid argument early 20th Century about the laying of powerlines
to every house.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN" is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
Every house will have a different communication port that they have
now. Looks like a optic fibre connection to me and everyone that's
seen it.
Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.Yours is the same backward logic, if you and Holland
want to live in grass huts thats their doing I suppose.
Huh? *We* *do* have affordable basic (and higher) broadband at every
house and *you* *do not* - and *will not* for a long, long time - and we
are the ones living in grass huts? It's exactly the other way around.
(And to (try to) prevent yet another whoosh: "we" and "you" are generic,
i.e. *all* of The Netherlands and *all* of Australia, not just me and
you.)
Comparing Holland to Australia?
Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, thatAustralia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,
Bet you wont.Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Frank Slootweg wrote
"The NBN" is only/mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense
cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN"
is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then
Ah, the "You're wrong, but I don't know why!" non-argument. Good one.On 12/06/12 01:44, Frank Slootweg wrote:
"The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
Indeed, where "eventually" is after "a long, long time". Glad we agree!With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN" is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
I'll be on the NBN next yearPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2012 15:44:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid
wrote:
Most in Australia do not have a good copperwire connection though.
This is being replaced by the NBN where every home will have a fibre
optic link. No copperwire at all. Don't see your point
whoosh
My point is that Oz does *not* need "the NBN", but *does* need basic
affordable broadband where it's currently not available. *That* is the
problem and "the NBN" is not solving *that* problem. "The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Those that count (Government agree) say we do?
But they *do not* provide it, i.e. (basic affordable) broadband *where
it's currently not available*, and they *will not* provide it for a
long, long time to come.
Things are changing FAST
I will have it next yearOriginally intended by PM John Howard early 2000. As private operators
were slow to take it up the Rudd Labor Government decided that it
would be done as part of his stimulus package. The economics show
Australia can afford it. I'm in a very much Liberal Electorate and a
big issue is that voters in our and surrounding electorates that won't
be hooked up next year are screaming. So it is political suicide to
stop it's progress. Malcolm Turnbull a senior Liberal has invested
heavily in the NBN going ahead.
Sydney had the
same stupid argument early 20th Century about the laying of powerlines
to every house.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN" is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
Every house will have a different communication port that they have
now. Looks like a optic fibre connection to me and everyone that's
seen it.
The *point* is that every house will NOT have "a different communication
port" *for a long, long time to come*.
It's happening now with main backbones already in place?
Those that know say differentYours is the same backward logic, if you and Holland
want to live in grass huts thats their doing I suppose.
Huh? *We* *do* have affordable basic (and higher) broadband at every
house and *you* *do not* - and *will not* for a long, long time - and we
are the ones living in grass huts? It's exactly the other way around.
(And to (try to) prevent yet another whoosh: "we" and "you" are generic,
i.e. *all* of The Netherlands and *all* of Australia, not just me and
you.)
Comparing Holland to Australia?
Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.
Australia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,
Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, that
"most Australians do not have even basic broadband", and the NBN is NOT
solving *that* problem for a long long time to come.
[Non-representative personal anecdote of replacing ADSL by mobile
broadband deleted.]
Juliar won't be replaced by Abbott and there is no guarantee thePretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Frank Slootweg wrote
"The NBN" is only/mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense
cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN"
is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then
Bet you wont.
And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.
Like hell they are.Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
Most in Australia do not have a good copperwire connection though.
This is being replaced by the NBN where every home will have a fibre
optic link. No copperwire at all. Don't see your point
whoosh
My point is that Oz does *not* need "the NBN", but *does* need basic
affordable broadband where it's currently not available. *That* is the
problem and "the NBN" is not solving *that* problem. "The NBN" is only/
mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense cost.
Those that count (Government agree) say we do?
But they *do not* provide it, i.e. (basic affordable) broadband
*where it's currently not available*, and they *will not* provide
it for a long, long time to come.
Things are changing FAST
Not a chance, you watch.I'll be on the NBN next year
Another bare faced lie.NBN is connecting faster as time goes by
Another bare faced lie.there just won't be copperwire any more
You can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the faceOriginally intended by PM John Howard early 2000. As private operators
were slow to take it up the Rudd Labor Government decided that it
would be done as part of his stimulus package. The economics show
Australia can afford it. I'm in a very much Liberal Electorate and a
big issue is that voters in our and surrounding electorates that won't
be hooked up next year are screaming. So it is political suicide to
stop it's progress. Malcolm Turnbull a senior Liberal has invested
heavily in the NBN going ahead.
Sydney had the same stupid argument early 20th Century
about the laying of powerlines to every house.
Almost anyone who wants that can have it right now.With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN" is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
Every house will have a different communication port that they have
now. Looks like a optic fibre connection to me and everyone that's seen
it.
The *point* is that every house will NOT have
"a different communicationport" *for a long, long time to come*.
It happened long ago.It's happening now with main backbones already in place?
No you wont.I will have it next year
Fantasy. Abbot will be pulling the plug on it any day now.8 years it will be fully completed
Another lie.Yours is the same backward logic, if you and Holland
want to live in grass huts thats their doing I suppose.
Huh? *We* *do* have affordable basic (and higher) broadband at every
house and *you* *do not* - and *will not* for a long, long time - and
we
are the ones living in grass huts? It's exactly the other way
around.(And to
(try to) prevent yet another whoosh: "we" and "you" are generic, .e.
*all* of
The Netherlands and *all* of Australia, not just me and you.)
Comparing Holland to Australia?
Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.
Australia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,
Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, that
"most Australians do not have even basic broadband", and the NBN
is NOTsolving *that* problem for a long long time to come.
[Non-representative personal anecdote of replacing ADSL by mobile
broadband deleted.]
Those that know say different
That aint 'those that know', liar.http://www.nbn.gov.au/the-vision/
Fools like you ran the same line about Bligh and NewmanRod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Frank Slootweg wrote
"The NBN" is only/mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at
immense cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come
- "the NBN" is *not* "laying network lines to every house".
*That* is the whole problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then
Bet you wont.
And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.
Juliar won't be replaced by Abbott
Fools like you ran the same line about the NSWand there is no guarantee the government will change
Not anymore, you watch.there are to many voting for Greens and Independents.
That's another lie. The independents just didn't want another election liar.Juliar got government now because no Greens ot Independents trust Abbott
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you haveanyone but Abbott the story would be different.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.Even now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott
putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
It did last timeEven now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott
putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:49:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Even now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott
putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.
It did last time
When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't
Your premise on the NBN not being completed totally rest on an Abbott
win. A lot can happen between now and then
--
Petzl
Looks like Abbott turd, smells like Abbott turd, feels like Abbott turd,
tastes like Abbott turd. Must be Abbott turd. Don't step in it!.
You will get Juliared and never get it off your foot!!!!!
Another bare faced pig ignorant lie.Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Even now the polls show the voting public don't like
Abbott putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.
It did last time
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you haveWhen people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't
And there will not only be a win, it will be as completeYour premise on the NBN not being
completed totally rest on an Abbott win.
Yep, Juliar could well be politically assassinated.A lot can happen between now and then
That's only because of Abbott future elections with that arsehole"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9pcgt7dbgblo5jekq1g6egs3ke5kofms0v@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:49:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Even now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott
putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.
It did last time
When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't
Your premise on the NBN not being completed totally rest on an Abbott
win. A lot can happen between now and then
You will get Juliared and never get it off your foot!!!!!
Liar Pizzle.Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Please God it be true!Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Frank Slootweg wrote
"The NBN" is only/mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at immense
cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come - "the NBN"
is
*not* "laying network lines to every house". *That* is the whole
problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then
Bet you wont.
And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.
Don't worry about Pizzle - just a moronic ALP shrill, who can't thinkYou can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the face
if your like, it stays a bare faced lie, just like all your other lies.
Another bare faced lie.SG1 <lostit@the.races.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Even now the polls show the voting public don't
like Abbott putting Julair well above as preferred PM.
That's never what determines an election result, fool.
It did last time
Another bare faced lie.When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they
won't. Your premise on the NBN not being completed totally rest
on an Abbott win. A lot can happen between now and then
You will get Juliared and never get it off your foot!!!!!
That's only because of Abbott
Another bare faced lie.future elections with that arsehole leading liberal will be the same.
Another bare faced lie.Don't know anyone that prers him to Juliar he's that bad
That's always hard to say. Who would have predicted whatRod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Frank Slootweg wrote
"The NBN" is only/mostly 'solving' non-existent 'problems' at
immense cost.
Breath taking for someone who claims to have
travelled throughout Australia. Good ow foot shot.
With the minor nit that - for a long, long time to come
- "the NBN" is *not* "laying network lines to every house".
*That* is the whole problem.
It will eventually.
Nope, because it cant last more than 15 months now.
I'm one of the ones that will have it by then
Bet you wont.
And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.
Please God it be true!
What do you think will cause this, Roddles?
He's even stupider than that.Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
You can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the face
if your like, it stays a bare faced lie, just like all your other lies.
Don't worry about Pizzle - just a moronic
ALP shrill, who can't think for himself.
Never voted Labor in my life?On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:38:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
You can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the face
if your like, it stays a bare faced lie, just like all your other lies.
Don't worry about Pizzle - just a moronic ALP shrill, who can't think
for himself.