Florescent light bulbs?

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!
BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.
Light and heat and improved ventilation
grin> Yep.
Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)
I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.
Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH
er ... um ... while I never have done so, someone did mention the fact
that they vibrate nicely!

Apparently one can do quite a bit of erotic teasing with a mere phone
call and not saying a word.

-- Troia
 
In article <457c1d21$0$97249$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Troia <troia.legata@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light
a
room with gas!
BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.
Light and heat and improved ventilation
grin> Yep.
Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)
I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.
Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH

er ... um ... while I never have done so, someone did mention the fact
that they vibrate nicely!
They vibrate, too? Oh, good grief. I guess that would make
the term "phone sex" take on a whole new meaning.

Apparently one can do quite a bit of erotic teasing with a mere phone
call and not saying a word.
What is the purpose of those devices vibrating while you're
talking?

/BAH

 
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:00:54 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!

BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.

Light and heat and improved ventilation

grin> Yep.

Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)

I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.

Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Graham
And what is the problem with using cellphones while filling petrol? There
has (according to what I recently read somewhere) been absolutely no
evidence of mobil phones being a problem at petrol stations. Even
theoretically, the chances of causing an explosion are thousands of times
higher when starting the engine than using a mobile. About the only risk
of using a mobile is through inattentiveness.

By far the biggest cause of fires at petrol station is from people whose
car is already on fire, driving to a petrol station to look for help.
 
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <457c1d21$0$97249$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Troia <troia.legata@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
....
Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH
er ... um ... while I never have done so, someone did mention the fact
that they vibrate nicely!

They vibrate, too? Oh, good grief. I guess that would make
the term "phone sex" take on a whole new meaning.

Apparently one can do quite a bit of erotic teasing with a mere phone
call and not saying a word.

What is the purpose of those devices vibrating while you're
talking?

/BAH
Um, no ... now remember, I've just *read* about this! But apparently it
is not exactly uncommon.

One does not *talk* on the phone. One puts it in a certain place with
relation to the body, the other partner makes a phone call, the phone
does not get answered.

Clearer?

Sort of like a remote-controlled vibrator.

-- Troia
 
In article <elh71j$8qk_002@s1128.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com says...
In article <457c1d21$0$97249$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Troia <troia.legata@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light
a
room with gas!
BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.
Light and heat and improved ventilation
grin> Yep.
Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)
I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.
Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH

er ... um ... while I never have done so, someone did mention the fact
that they vibrate nicely!

They vibrate, too? Oh, good grief. I guess that would make
the term "phone sex" take on a whole new meaning.


Apparently one can do quite a bit of erotic teasing with a mere phone
call and not saying a word.

What is the purpose of those devices vibrating while you're
talking?
Not while talking. They can be set to vibrate instead of (or
before) ringing. The vibrate mode is more discrete than some
gawd-awful ringer tunes.

--
Keith
 
In article <1165724615.957643.274360@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
pomerado@hotmail.com says...
krw wrote:
In article <elfjqr$qia$2@jasen.is-a-geek.org>, jasen@free.net.nz
says...
On 2006-12-08, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
CoreyWhite wrote:



20%, is what Al Gore said. He would know better than me. What do you
think the electric power needs of the florescents would be? And where
can I buy a Tesla Bulb?


Maybe from that paragon of honesty who claimed he
invented the internet...

Al gore never claimed to have invented the internet.



He did claim responsibility for it though, which was absurd enough.

If you read the actual words, he claimed to have financed it.

It existed before he was in congress. He lied (again), is the
point.

--
Keith
 
On Sun, 10 Dec 06 14:32:55 GMT, the renowned jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!

BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.

Light and heat and improved ventilation

grin> Yep.

Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)

I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.

Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH
Y'know, back in the day (of analog cellphones) it was possible to
listen in on conversations easily if you had an appropriate receiver.
One could hear some "interesting" stuff.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On 10 Dec 2006 09:35:53 -0800, in sci.electronics.design "Richard
Henry" <pomerado@hotmail.com> wrote:
int.
Did you see in the papers where Merriam-Webster's word of the year is
"truthiness"?
anyone got an url for the colbert "truthiness" video? It's been
un-youtubed


martin
 
martin griffith wrote:
On 10 Dec 2006 09:35:53 -0800, in sci.electronics.design "Richard
Henry" <pomerado@hotmail.com> wrote:
int.

Did you see in the papers where Merriam-Webster's word of the year is
"truthiness"?

anyone got an url for the colbert "truthiness" video? It's been
un-youtubed
No video, but wikipedia has the transcript.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
 
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:00:54 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.
---
Yup, and ya know what? I haven't heard of a single instance of a
filling station blowing up because of it, have you?


--
JF
 
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:01:57 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

Speaking of fluorescent lights, just a couple of months ago they got a guy
to redo my ceiling light (which is obnoxiously bright, but there's not
much I can do about it), and the guy refurbished this 8-foot fixture with
iron ballast; he took the ballast and even the socket thingies out, and
installed new socket thingies and electronic ballasts, and essentially
turned the 8' fixture into two 4' fixtures end-to-end. He also gave me
one of those screw-in fluorescents for my desk lamp.

Since the PHB is so cheap, I'm ass-u-me-ing that he's expecting a
significant savings on lighting. :)

I'd go bonkers in your office. I always had the flurescent bulbs
above my office taken out. I could see their flicker even though
no one else could.

Electronic ballasts don't make a flickery light.
---
They don't make any light at all, dumb donkey!

Well, maybe once, sometimes...


--
JF
 
In sci.math, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com>
wrote
on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:40:54 -0600
<r0lon21lu22ptg7ne0tfdhkk94fqh0dbd9@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:01:57 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

Speaking of fluorescent lights, just a couple of months ago they got a guy
to redo my ceiling light (which is obnoxiously bright, but there's not
much I can do about it), and the guy refurbished this 8-foot fixture with
iron ballast; he took the ballast and even the socket thingies out, and
installed new socket thingies and electronic ballasts, and essentially
turned the 8' fixture into two 4' fixtures end-to-end. He also gave me
one of those screw-in fluorescents for my desk lamp.

Since the PHB is so cheap, I'm ass-u-me-ing that he's expecting a
significant savings on lighting. :)

I'd go bonkers in your office. I always had the flurescent bulbs
above my office taken out. I could see their flicker even though
no one else could.

Electronic ballasts don't make a flickery light.

---
They don't make any light at all, dumb donkey!

Well, maybe once, sometimes...
It makes little difference; unless there's a rectifier/capacitor
somewhere in the circuit, those fluorescents are going to flicker as
they are driven by either a 50 Hz (in Europe) or 60 Hz (America) power
source.

Apparently JMF is more susceptible to such flickering.

--
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Windows Vista. Because a BSOD is just so 20th century; why not
try our new color changing variant?

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In article <elgu17$8ss_009@s892.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:
In article <mQGeh.50$45.182@news.uchicago.edu>,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
In article <elebeh$8ss_001@s907.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:
In article <4579A6ED.ED344467@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Joel Kolstad wrote:

"Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote

"Well, you shouldn't discount all that free electric heating you get
with incandescents (it's free, because you've already attributed the
cost to lighting). In the winter that waves on fuel bills, and in the
summer it help our airconditioners run longer, to efficiently
dehumidify the air."

It's only "free" if you have electric heat rather than natural gas or
fuel
oil, both of which are cheaper. Even then, it's arguably not quite as
good
as
a floor heater, since most of the heat will stay up on the ceiling where
the
lamp is rather than being forced down to circulate among the people -- I
imagine draftier homes or a ceiling fan may mitigate this, however.

That being said, for people with electric heating, in winter I think
running a
few spare PCs on BOINC or something similar is a pretty good idea!

Unless I have an electric heater on or the washing machine, my largest
electrical
load now is easily the PC.


When my disk died, I moved to a Toshiba laptop that has one of those
energy star labels on the cover. My power usage dropped 100Kwh/month.

I think it was the terminal that was using most of the power.

It was, with CRT terminals. Since those are disappearing by now,

My $500 terminal is now a dinosaur?! I can't keep up with this
biz.

Way newer things than CRT's are already dinosaurs. Anybody still
remembers the Zip drive?

the
worries expressed in this thread about the energy wasted by
screensavers are, if not misplaced, then at least vastly exaggerated.

hmmm...I never thought about screensavers' functionality w.r.t.
the new [emoticon hunts for term]display technology. I don't
know much about it. Are you implying that the displays can't get
burnt in?
Not to my knowledge, no.
It that's not clear, tell me and I'll try again tomorrow. I'm thinking
through the fourth bout of the dumb flu.

Sorry to hear about it. Hope you'll get well soon.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
 
In sci.math, jmfbahciv@aol.com
<jmfbahciv@aol.com>
wrote
on Sun, 10 Dec 06 12:11:14 GMT
<elgth2$8ss_007@s892.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>:
In article <pan.2006.12.09.20.41.57.794419@example.net>,
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
In article <4tvtmmF15ehi2U1@mid.individual.net>,
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
mensanator@aol.com> wrote in message
No, warmer air due to lighting makes the thermostat kick on
less often reducing your consumption of gas or fuel oil.

Sure, but it's still cheaper to buy 1kWh of heat from the gas or fuel oil
company than it is from the electric company!

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room
with gas!

BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.

Light and heat and improved ventilation

grin> Yep.

Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)

I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.

I think the 'if' in your sentence should be spelled IFF.

/BAH
There is some good news. The old movie cliche about tossing a butt into
a pool of gasoline is just that: an old movie cliche.

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/
http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html#cigarettes

However, under the right conditions -- the subtext describes a tube
filled with pure oxygen and a few drops of gasoline, with an ignition
source (a cigarette, natch) -- kaboom. But apparently it takes some
doing, and while O2 tanks are available for medical use they're not all
that common, especially when refueling cars. :)

Not that I smoke anyway.

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
Windows Vista. Because a BSOD is just so 20th century; why not
try our new color changing variant?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
 
In sci.math, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
wrote
on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:42:05 -0500
<m4eon2p4edthn7tpoqib730a0mr2n7up3p@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 10 Dec 06 14:32:55 GMT, the renowned jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!

BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.

Light and heat and improved ventilation

grin> Yep.

Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)

I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.

Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH

Y'know, back in the day (of analog cellphones) it was possible to
listen in on conversations easily if you had an appropriate receiver.
One could hear some "interesting" stuff.
Well, I do have a "bug" -- somewhere -- which is basically
a small pickup coil with a suction cup that can be
attached to a phone. It was about the size of my thumb.
(No, I'm not affiliated with the NSA or CIA or DEA or MIA
or DOA or ... well, OK, I *am* in the USA.) I've mislaid
the silly thing now, admittedly, and when was the last
time anyone's seen a traditional phone cradle? :)

I think it had to be attached to the earpiece, which
would probably be *rather* noticeable anyway (it wasn't
a wireless bug) -- "Hey, what's this *other* cord?" :).

And there was some noises way back of scanners picking
up cellphones. (I don't have a scanner or a cellphone.)

There are of course far more nefarious schemes one can
cook up; a particularly simple one involves attaching a
connector between computer and keyboard. The connector
would derive juice from the computer (the PS/2 specs
and USB specs include a small amount of +5V power) and
broadcast to a nearby receiver.

*mass sound of people unplugging their keyboards* :)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
Linux. The choice of a GNU generation.
Windows. The choice of a bunch of people who like very weird behavior on
a regular basis, random crashes, and "extend, embrace, and extinguish".

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
 
John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:00:54 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

---
Yup, and ya know what? I haven't heard of a single instance of a
filling station blowing up because of it, have you?
It isn't cell phones and cigarettes that you need to
be concerned about. It's sweaters.

<http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d144757ef>


 
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!

BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.

Light and heat and improved ventilation

grin> Yep.

Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)

I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.

Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.
LOL ! Just don't ask what for.

Graham
 
Troia wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <457C1316.2F1B97DA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:03:25 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

A more interesting comparison might be how efficiently you can light a
room with gas!
BOOM! Quite efficiently, but all the light shines at the same time.
Light and heat and improved ventilation
grin> Yep.
Nah - if you learn to light one properly, the deflagration front is
contained within millimeters of the mantle. ;-)
I have watched people fill the auto gas tank. Despite all warnings
I've seen men and women hanging onto a cigarette while doing so.
Americans ! They probably use cellphones while refuelling too.

Having watched the current misusage of those things, I would
not be surprised if they use them during sex.

/BAH

er ... um ... while I never have done so, someone did mention the fact
that they vibrate nicely!

Apparently one can do quite a bit of erotic teasing with a mere phone
call and not saying a word.
This is how Nokia got such a big market share perhpas ?

Graham
 
In article
<1165724615.957643.274360@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
,
"Richard Henry" <pomerado@hotmail.com> wrote:

krw wrote:
In article <elfjqr$qia$2@jasen.is-a-geek.org>, jasen@free.net.nz
says...
On 2006-12-08, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
CoreyWhite wrote:



20%, is what Al Gore said. He would know better than me. What do you
think the electric power needs of the florescents would be? And where
can I buy a Tesla Bulb?


Maybe from that paragon of honesty who claimed he
invented the internet...

Al gore never claimed to have invented the internet.



He did claim responsibility for it though, which was absurd enough.

If you read the actual words, he claimed to have financed it.
What he said was carefully crafted to give the
impression that he is responsible, while allowing
plausible deniability. Therefore he is a liar.

--
Michael Press
 
CoreyWhite wrote:
Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
It takes an inifinite number,
Since we valled flourescent lighting tubes for the
simple reason so that moron bio-chemist retard
wouldn't get shocked br the invariant frequency effects,
and we called the connectors ballast pin-outs
so that global warming moorons like Gore Quantum Crapola
wouldn't confuse them with Nova Station Break Pinups.







Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?
 

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