J
Jaygo
Guest
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/456johng
Please click listings and thanks for looking
John
Please click listings and thanks for looking
John
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Jaygo wrote:
This is not a "For sale" newsgroup. Any electronics related sale
messages belong on <news:misc.industry.electronics.marketplace> or
<http://groups.google.com/group/news:misc.industry.electronics.marketplace?hl=en>
for Google users. misc.industry.electronics.marketplace was created for
that purpose.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
This is not a "For sale" newsgroup. Any electronics related sale
messages belong on <news:misc.industry.electronics.marketplace> or
<http://groups.google.com/group/news:misc.industry.electronics.marketplace?hl=en>
for Google users. misc.industry.electronics.marketplace was created for
that purpose.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:47C1B7AB.308E7A@earthlink.net...
offer a bargain of some vintage electronic components, This is a
public domain NG not the Central Florida private bulletien board.
I also served my country for thirty odd years but when has the
british army ever bragged about such matters.
news:47C1B7AB.308E7A@earthlink.net...
I am not a spammer you twit just trying to get shut of / recycle /
offer a bargain of some vintage electronic components, This is a
public domain NG not the Central Florida private bulletien board.
I also served my country for thirty odd years but when has the
british army ever bragged about such matters.
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Jaygo wrote:
YOU are an ignorant jackass who refuses to post ads on the proper
newsgroup. THAT makes you an ignorant Spammer.
What has the british military done to brag about in the last 30
years?
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
YOU are an ignorant jackass who refuses to post ads on the proper
newsgroup. THAT makes you an ignorant Spammer.
What has the british military done to brag about in the last 30
years?
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:47C1F1E8.229E6CEB@earthlink.net...
that clearly states I am not allowed to offer for auction components
that could benefit both parties, I must have missed that bit. It's not
as though I'm this great electronics outlet. And whatever colourful
or choice name you wish to call me has little effect, but Ignorance
is the least of my foibles. You changed my link to spammer and
that is what I take exception to.
news:47C1F1E8.229E6CEB@earthlink.net...
So there's this great welcoming sign in sci.electronics.components
that clearly states I am not allowed to offer for auction components
that could benefit both parties, I must have missed that bit. It's not
as though I'm this great electronics outlet. And whatever colourful
or choice name you wish to call me has little effect, but Ignorance
is the least of my foibles. You changed my link to spammer and
that is what I take exception to.
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Jaygo wrote:
What did you expect? A key to the city, and to be allowed to nail
your posters to the front door of everyone's home?
Yes, and you continue to rant about it. Read
<http://www.faqs.org/ftp/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.electronics-reorg>
where it tells of the creation of this newsgroup, and that you are not
allowed top advertise here. Advertising is only allowed in places
created for it. the sci. groups are for the discussion of electronics,
and this particular group is to ask questions about components, like,
"Where can I find a 2N**** transistor, my current supplier dropped
them."
Not at all, because I'm not British. Thank God, because enough of
you arrogant twits think that the rules don't apply to you.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
What did you expect? A key to the city, and to be allowed to nail
your posters to the front door of everyone's home?
Yes, and you continue to rant about it. Read
<http://www.faqs.org/ftp/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.electronics-reorg>
where it tells of the creation of this newsgroup, and that you are not
allowed top advertise here. Advertising is only allowed in places
created for it. the sci. groups are for the discussion of electronics,
and this particular group is to ask questions about components, like,
"Where can I find a 2N**** transistor, my current supplier dropped
them."
Not at all, because I'm not British. Thank God, because enough of
you arrogant twits think that the rules don't apply to you.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:47C2175C.87D4DAF9@earthlink.net...
subscribers are bright enough to either read or disregard the notice,
click or ignore the link.
modicum of compassion / understanding of what has happened here.
As a reminder:-
1. I unwittingly provided a link to some old electronic components
that I have for auction on fleabay, without realising what a heinous
crime that was.
2. Instead of pointing out my error in a civilised way - that I
would have apologised profusely for - you alluded to the
fact of me being a spammer - I can assure you I'm not.
I realise you are a DAV member and I respect you for that, I would never
disrespect the US forces as some of the members I have served
alongside from the various detachments were very professional.
This is my last post on the matter, if you wish to contact me please
use email and remove the obvious from the address.
news:47C2175C.87D4DAF9@earthlink.net...
The parallel just doesn't add up, there is no key and one would hope
subscribers are bright enough to either read or disregard the notice,
click or ignore the link.
I also thank god you are not British, you don't seem to have a
modicum of compassion / understanding of what has happened here.
As a reminder:-
1. I unwittingly provided a link to some old electronic components
that I have for auction on fleabay, without realising what a heinous
crime that was.
2. Instead of pointing out my error in a civilised way - that I
would have apologised profusely for - you alluded to the
fact of me being a spammer - I can assure you I'm not.
I realise you are a DAV member and I respect you for that, I would never
disrespect the US forces as some of the members I have served
alongside from the various detachments were very professional.
This is my last post on the matter, if you wish to contact me please
use email and remove the obvious from the address.
M
Michael Black
Guest
"Jaygo" (jaygo999BREATH@hotmail.com) writes:
Realistically, it's too late to stop you from posting your initial ad.
But unless someone speaks up when it happens, then your ad is an invitation
for others to post their ads. And then the newsgroup dies as it gets
burdened with people posting their ads, all claiming "well one little
add that's not commercial can't help".
Too many come to the newsgroups for their own individual reasons, rather
than seeing ias a collective mass. Hence "how can my one little
non-commercial ad hurt" in itself won't, but when it all ads up it
hurts a lot.
When you got access to the newsgroups, you should have been warned to
read the newsgroup for a while before posting. Then you'd see people
pointing out that ads don't belong. You should have been subscribed
to the newsgroups where the introductions to newsgroups get posted,
so you'd learn something about the place.
But of course not, now it's really easy to post, so too many posting
come to post only ads, or bring their own old habits to the newsgroups
not realizing or caring about the long existing space they are invading.
Michael
and we've seen all the junk posts over the years.
Realistically, it's too late to stop you from posting your initial ad.
But unless someone speaks up when it happens, then your ad is an invitation
for others to post their ads. And then the newsgroup dies as it gets
burdened with people posting their ads, all claiming "well one little
add that's not commercial can't help".
Too many come to the newsgroups for their own individual reasons, rather
than seeing ias a collective mass. Hence "how can my one little
non-commercial ad hurt" in itself won't, but when it all ads up it
hurts a lot.
When you got access to the newsgroups, you should have been warned to
read the newsgroup for a while before posting. Then you'd see people
pointing out that ads don't belong. You should have been subscribed
to the newsgroups where the introductions to newsgroups get posted,
so you'd learn something about the place.
But of course not, now it's really easy to post, so too many posting
come to post only ads, or bring their own old habits to the newsgroups
not realizing or caring about the long existing space they are invading.
Michael
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Michael Black" <et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:fpuqgs$6ci$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
way, I also have been around a fair while and remember when
connecting to the internet meant not only re-evaluating ones sleeping
habits (along with the phone bill) for downloading the smallest amount of
text.
I'm sure you know, as well as I, there are ways of speaking up and speaking
out and it was the original tone that had me at the short end of the bit.
I have listed below part of the rules for my subscription to my NG provider
(Berlin Uni) http://news.individual.net/
It is inadmissible to use this server to post SPAM. (To spam Usenet means
to send many identical or nearly-identical messages separately to a large
number of Usenet newsgroups.)
I am not a spammer and nor do I wish to continue some silly flame war with
the other Michael.
John
news:fpuqgs$6ci$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
Michael, Couldn't agree with your comments above more, and by the
way, I also have been around a fair while and remember when
connecting to the internet meant not only re-evaluating ones sleeping
habits (along with the phone bill) for downloading the smallest amount of
text.
I'm sure you know, as well as I, there are ways of speaking up and speaking
out and it was the original tone that had me at the short end of the bit.
I have listed below part of the rules for my subscription to my NG provider
(Berlin Uni) http://news.individual.net/
It is inadmissible to use this server to post SPAM. (To spam Usenet means
to send many identical or nearly-identical messages separately to a large
number of Usenet newsgroups.)
I am not a spammer and nor do I wish to continue some silly flame war with
the other Michael.
John
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JeffM
Guest
Jaygo wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:GlWDaaVQapQJ
ages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/usenet-policy.html+*-users-may-not-post-on-Usenet-groups+zzz+suspend-the-user's-eBay-account+violates
It is clear that you are aware of *marketplace* groups,
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=VBxQURoAAAAgAnnmzcJny0pMvjAvc3gBOgultvhkVwhfUahTtv1_ew&scoring=d&filter=0&num=100
yet you have made a selfish decision
to post ads to groups that obviously do NOT welcome them.
It is EASY to recognize the groups you seek.
They have in their names words like
forsale marketplace ads biz
Other groups, *MAY* tolerate ads
BUT YOU HAVE TO **READ** THE GROUP to see what is appropriate.
It is obvious that YOU DID NOT.
You are obviously just another drive-by spammer
who doesn't give a shit about this group
and sees it as yet another blank space to plaster an ad.
To put the capper on this, Mike told you about the proper group for
this
and he pointed to the charter for this group
which EXPRESSLY forbids the crap you pulled.
You have continued to resist doing the right thing
by conceding your selfishness and/or ignorance.
Here is the charter again with the pertinent parts highlighted:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics/msg/13651a897337a7a9?q=Charters+misc.industry.electronics.marketplace+Discussions+Advertisement-*-*+only-advertise+sci.electronics.components-Integrated-*-*-*+individual-parts+*.*.not.a.forsale.group+zz-zz+Discussion
and you see that as a license to spam.
For starters, here's what ebay has to say on the matter:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:GlWDaaVQapQJ
ages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/usenet-policy.html+*-users-may-not-post-on-Usenet-groups+zzz+suspend-the-user's-eBay-account+violatesYour advertisements are NOT welcome in this DISCUSSION group.
It is clear that you are aware of *marketplace* groups,
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=VBxQURoAAAAgAnnmzcJny0pMvjAvc3gBOgultvhkVwhfUahTtv1_ew&scoring=d&filter=0&num=100
yet you have made a selfish decision
to post ads to groups that obviously do NOT welcome them.
It is EASY to recognize the groups you seek.
They have in their names words like
forsale marketplace ads biz
Other groups, *MAY* tolerate ads
BUT YOU HAVE TO **READ** THE GROUP to see what is appropriate.
It is obvious that YOU DID NOT.
You are obviously just another drive-by spammer
who doesn't give a shit about this group
and sees it as yet another blank space to plaster an ad.
To put the capper on this, Mike told you about the proper group for
this
and he pointed to the charter for this group
which EXPRESSLY forbids the crap you pulled.
You have continued to resist doing the right thing
by conceding your selfishness and/or ignorance.
Here is the charter again with the pertinent parts highlighted:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics/msg/13651a897337a7a9?q=Charters+misc.industry.electronics.marketplace+Discussions+Advertisement-*-*+only-advertise+sci.electronics.components-Integrated-*-*-*+individual-parts+*.*.not.a.forsale.group+zz-zz+Discussion
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Jaygo
Guest
Obviously another cage rattled.
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:d4e23aef-9f0a-4b5c-a974-065dabeb7f3d@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
odd years military service but none ever mentioned spammer. It actually
sounds pythonesque. Before anyone replies I know what spam was.
took time to read some of the threads you will not find a mention
of spammer.
listing items for sale/swap/auction.
that akin to me being a mad axe murderer. Although I do feel as
if I'm driving by and there are dogs barking at my hub caps for
no apparent reason.
the first message in this thread.
I do not suffer from a lack of "savior faire" either, here is some
of the original text from the previous thread:-
"I'm sure you know, as well as I, there are ways of speaking up and speaking
out and it was the original tone that had me at the short end of the bit."
I inadvertently posted a link to some vintage electronic components
that I have for sale on eBay.I thought it may interest some of the
sci.electronic.components readers. I had briefly looked down previous
threads and saw others listing items for sale/swap/auction and -
as it now transpires - assumed my link would be OK.
The response from Mike Terrel was to change my link to
something with "spammer" in the text that generated a 404.
It is this I take exception to.
If my error had been pointed out in a civilised way - I
would have apologised profusely for not only the post
but also my idleness in not reading the NG charter.
John
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:d4e23aef-9f0a-4b5c-a974-065dabeb7f3d@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I wouldn't say the techies at Berlin University are entirely clueless.
I did say part of the rules.
Repeatedly? by whom ? I have been called many things during my thirtyFor starters, here's what ebay has to say on the matter:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:GlWDaaVQapQJ
I am not a spammer
YES, you have been told *repeatedly* that you ARE a spammer.
odd years military service but none ever mentioned spammer. It actually
sounds pythonesque. Before anyone replies I know what spam was.
Big deal, I enjoy NGs of course I'm aware of the various groups, if you
took time to read some of the threads you will not find a mention
of spammer.
Not that obvious! I looked down previous threads and saw others
listing items for sale/swap/auction.
Are you completely devoid of using terminology other than
that akin to me being a mad axe murderer. Although I do feel as
if I'm driving by and there are dogs barking at my hub caps for
no apparent reason.
Yes I agree, he did, after I had inadvertantly posted the link in
the first message in this thread.
I notice you deleted the text from the previous thread
I do not suffer from a lack of "savior faire" either, here is some
of the original text from the previous thread:-
"I'm sure you know, as well as I, there are ways of speaking up and speaking
out and it was the original tone that had me at the short end of the bit."
As a reminder here again is what happened:-
I inadvertently posted a link to some vintage electronic components
that I have for sale on eBay.I thought it may interest some of the
sci.electronic.components readers. I had briefly looked down previous
threads and saw others listing items for sale/swap/auction and -
as it now transpires - assumed my link would be OK.
The response from Mike Terrel was to change my link to
something with "spammer" in the text that generated a 404.
It is this I take exception to.
If my error had been pointed out in a civilised way - I
would have apologised profusely for not only the post
but also my idleness in not reading the NG charter.
John
S
Sjouke Burry
Guest
Jaygo wrote:
And bloody arrogant as well.
Now go and hide under the rock you crawled from.
Now you are not only a spammer, but a troll as well.
And bloody arrogant as well.
Now go and hide under the rock you crawled from.
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Sjouke Burry" <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnlll> wrote in message
news:47c44ef8$0$25500$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
of your ilk, I don't even know why I'm even replying to you
but for what its worth I've never hidden from anything.
news:47c44ef8$0$25500$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
I take it thats a load off your mind, the name calling is typical
of your ilk, I don't even know why I'm even replying to you
but for what its worth I've never hidden from anything.
L
Lostgallifreyan
Guest
"Jaygo" <jaygo999BREATH@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:62i81mF22jed0U1@mid.individual.net:
but I'm with him on this one. It's time the charter was changed, it's a
practical way out of this. I've not been here as long as the charter has, but
that doesn't make my point invalid.
We often see want-to-buy posts about components here, and those too could be
considered as invalid market-based postings, but are tolerated because they
relate to the kind of posts that seek info or alternative suppliers for
parts. This is ok because most of us know that money is as much a part of
practical decision making as Vbe or Vf or Hfe...
I think it cuts both ways. If a person wants to sell a small number of
surplus parts, or to barter, or notify people of a private seller's eBay
listing, either theirs or someone else's, I think that should be ok here if
it's clearly specified to electronic components and nothing else, and
provided that such sales are not the primary business of the poster, i.e.
they are not just a parts shop. eBay is increasing the divide between private
and business sellers, and private ones might lose business if they can't draw
attention from those most likely to care.
I have no interest in selling anything here, my problem is only that this
argument about such sales begins to dominate the group, so it's obviously
important here. If people could do it here and keep it out of s.e.d etc, then
it's better than them having to try to compete with wider and more irrelevant
postings for other sales of complete assemblies of components.
Lastly, I have a kill-filter on the sneakers and other bullshit ads I see
here, there's no point in bloating it with rules against every one-off
private component seller as well. I let them pass without thought, or even
look at their postings. My whole argument is based on this. There IS a
difference in these postings for component sales from small or private
sellers that makes it worth changing the charter for. No doubt some will try
to push the envelope but I think there is enough human activity here to take
each case as it comes, on its own merit or lack of it.
news:62i81mF22jed0U1@mid.individual.net:
Not that Winfield Hill would need or even care about any approval from me,
but I'm with him on this one. It's time the charter was changed, it's a
practical way out of this. I've not been here as long as the charter has, but
that doesn't make my point invalid.
We often see want-to-buy posts about components here, and those too could be
considered as invalid market-based postings, but are tolerated because they
relate to the kind of posts that seek info or alternative suppliers for
parts. This is ok because most of us know that money is as much a part of
practical decision making as Vbe or Vf or Hfe...
I think it cuts both ways. If a person wants to sell a small number of
surplus parts, or to barter, or notify people of a private seller's eBay
listing, either theirs or someone else's, I think that should be ok here if
it's clearly specified to electronic components and nothing else, and
provided that such sales are not the primary business of the poster, i.e.
they are not just a parts shop. eBay is increasing the divide between private
and business sellers, and private ones might lose business if they can't draw
attention from those most likely to care.
I have no interest in selling anything here, my problem is only that this
argument about such sales begins to dominate the group, so it's obviously
important here. If people could do it here and keep it out of s.e.d etc, then
it's better than them having to try to compete with wider and more irrelevant
postings for other sales of complete assemblies of components.
Lastly, I have a kill-filter on the sneakers and other bullshit ads I see
here, there's no point in bloating it with rules against every one-off
private component seller as well. I let them pass without thought, or even
look at their postings. My whole argument is based on this. There IS a
difference in these postings for component sales from small or private
sellers that makes it worth changing the charter for. No doubt some will try
to push the envelope but I think there is enough human activity here to take
each case as it comes, on its own merit or lack of it.
J
Jaygo
Guest
"Lostgallifreyan" <no-one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A50E8103ACA4zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130...
accept I should have perhaps studied the NG a lot closer when I would
have realised that listing electronic components has been a long running
saga
inciting a lot of name calling, bitchiness and uber reaction.
I also accept that I threw the teddy out the pram in annoyance but I will
not allow anyone to accuse me of being a spammer / troll etc.
I have already had a few private emails of support and questions via ebay
regarding
shipping some of the components to North America. These components
are from the house of a deceased old family friend. He was a radio ham and
electronics enthusiast in the 50s/60s. So what was I supposed to do throw
the components out?.
Anyhow best of luck with your campaign (sorry I don't know your name) I
suppose sometimes these things just have to burn themselves out.
Regards
John
news:Xns9A50E8103ACA4zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130...
A voice of reason at last (and a timelord), To be honest I am to blame and I
accept I should have perhaps studied the NG a lot closer when I would
have realised that listing electronic components has been a long running
saga
inciting a lot of name calling, bitchiness and uber reaction.
I also accept that I threw the teddy out the pram in annoyance but I will
not allow anyone to accuse me of being a spammer / troll etc.
I have already had a few private emails of support and questions via ebay
regarding
shipping some of the components to North America. These components
are from the house of a deceased old family friend. He was a radio ham and
electronics enthusiast in the 50s/60s. So what was I supposed to do throw
the components out?.
Anyhow best of luck with your campaign (sorry I don't know your name) I
suppose sometimes these things just have to burn themselves out.
Regards
John
C
clifto
Guest
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
a charter and calling a vote.
--
Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/obamas-communist-mentor/
I disagree, but feel free to follow the established procedures for modifying
a charter and calling a vote.
--
Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/obamas-communist-mentor/
L
Lostgallifreyan
Guest
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in news:k1dh95-vvt.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
before there's a point to wasting time with formalities. If no-one else says
any similar stuff then I already know what the answer is.
Bit early to think of that. It takes several people to say similar things
before there's a point to wasting time with formalities. If no-one else says
any similar stuff then I already know what the answer is.
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:47C2175C.87D4DAF9@earthlink.net...
Keep in mind, I own this forum. You can't post anything without going through me first.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Keep in mind, I own this forum. You can't post anything without going through me first.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida