F&P washing machine playing up after 8 years of good service

[budgie]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:40:08 +1000, Barry <notbarry@optushome.com.au> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:58:16 GMT, "Mitchell" <mmoules@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Far easier to drain it using commands in diagnostic mode.


Which are?
I have an 053 BTW about 97 vintage........
last fault was no spin.
result new motor. cost all up $300

OUCH!
wrote a leter to FP. They responded with an $150 check.


So they did the right thing....

Regards,
Mitch

Well... diagnostics are saying the pump, but the pump works, and I could
drain the tub no probs. It still can't spin properly though... very slow, or
doesn't move at all.

Doesn't sound right. Did you have the pressure sensor connected when you tried
it?

Ended up buying a new 7.5kg one (GW712), but still hopeful I might be able
to get it going again, or sell it to someone who wants it for a few $.

Basically there are two parts to these machines of any value - the motor and the
controller board. And since your controller is u/s that leaves one bit.

Sorry the info didn't help.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:05:45 +1200, Patrick Dunford
<patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote:

In article <MPG.1b5468ee71e3e4269896b0@news.netspace.net.au>,
zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au says...

I must say the idea of the water cooled heatsink is a fantastic bit of
thinking. I've heard that if the heatsink gets too hot, they dribble
some cold water through it - brilliant! The downside is they don't use
a conventional cold valve but one they can turn on only a little bit
(I stand to be corrected on this point also

I believe this is the inlet mixing chamber and temperature sensors which
control a proportional cold valve to set the warm fill temp.

It is used as a heatsink for the chopper fets

 

[The Real Andy]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:41:51 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:40:08 +1000, Barry <notbarry@optushome.com.au> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:58:16 GMT, "Mitchell" <mmoules@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Far easier to drain it using commands in diagnostic mode.


Which are?
I have an 053 BTW about 97 vintage........
last fault was no spin.
result new motor. cost all up $300

OUCH!
wrote a leter to FP. They responded with an $150 check.


So they did the right thing....

Regards,
Mitch

Well... diagnostics are saying the pump, but the pump works, and I could
drain the tub no probs. It still can't spin properly though... very slow, or
doesn't move at all.

The diagnostics are not always correct.

Doesn't sound right. Did you have the pressure sensor connected when you tried
it?

Ended up buying a new 7.5kg one (GW712), but still hopeful I might be able
to get it going again, or sell it to someone who wants it for a few $.

Basically there are two parts to these machines of any value - the motor and the
controller board. And since your controller is u/s that leaves one bit.

The controller boards can be repaired. I have had no response to my
posts, but if you require a copy of the schematics, drop me an email
at a.pearson @ wayit dot com dot au and I will email them.

The other major problem with these machines is the board which gets
the motor speed. There is a name for it but i forget. It is not that
dear to replace, but if you do replace, give it a good coat of varnish
or epoxy.

Another big problem I believe is the main bowl seal leaking and
causing damage to the motor and motor speed thingie.

Disclaimer...I have never worked on a washing machine in my life, so I
am just going on what the techs used to tell me.

 

[Patrick Dunford]

In article <eci4f0h75ivn48jffeqq010mcmqo6lfe25@4ax.com>,
..pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply says...

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:05:45 +1200, Patrick Dunford
patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote:

In article <MPG.1b5468ee71e3e4269896b0@news.netspace.net.au>,
zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au says...

I must say the idea of the water cooled heatsink is a fantastic bit of
thinking. I've heard that if the heatsink gets too hot, they dribble
some cold water through it - brilliant! The downside is they don't use
a conventional cold valve but one they can turn on only a little bit
(I stand to be corrected on this point also

I believe this is the inlet mixing chamber and temperature sensors which
control a proportional cold valve to set the warm fill temp.

It is used as a heatsink for the chopper fets

So where does the water go? Is it flushed out into the drain?

You can't just put it in the cold water line because the flow of cold
won't be continuous throughout the wash cycle.

 

[budgie]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:27:59 +1000, The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:41:51 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Basically there are two parts to these machines of any value - the motor and the
controller board. And since your controller is u/s that leaves one bit.

The controller boards can be repaired. I have had no response to my
posts, but if you require a copy of the schematics, drop me an email
at a.pearson @ wayit dot com dot au and I will email them.

I replied from my real addie ....

 

[The Real Andy]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:25:59 +1200, Patrick Dunford
<patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote:

In article <eci4f0h75ivn48jffeqq010mcmqo6lfe25@4ax.com>,
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply says...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:05:45 +1200, Patrick Dunford
patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote:

In article <MPG.1b5468ee71e3e4269896b0@news.netspace.net.au>,
zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au says...

I must say the idea of the water cooled heatsink is a fantastic bit of
thinking. I've heard that if the heatsink gets too hot, they dribble
some cold water through it - brilliant! The downside is they don't use
a conventional cold valve but one they can turn on only a little bit
(I stand to be corrected on this point also

I believe this is the inlet mixing chamber and temperature sensors which
control a proportional cold valve to set the warm fill temp.

It is used as a heatsink for the chopper fets

So where does the water go? Is it flushed out into the drain?

You can't just put it in the cold water line because the flow of cold
won't be continuous throughout the wash cycle.

The water goes through the heatsink into the bowl. When the devices
get too hot, the cold solenoid turns on and a small amount of water
flows through the heatsink. You will hear the solenoid switch on
during the wash cycle. If the fets get to hot, chances are your cold
solenoid is bunged and the machine shuts down (supposedly).

 

[thegoons]

Can you please post the codes here?

"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:53:18 +1200, Patrick Dunford
patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote:

In article <ar6ie0p68uuvrstum8md86rd3vp6qm356l@4ax.com>,
notbarry@optushome.com.au says...
As per subject says

I have a 6kg F&P machine and it decided it doesn't want to spin the tub
anymore. I've read in the google archives that some here may know how
to fix
it.

Basically, it was doing a load, and then stopped when it came to the
spin
cycle. If I power it off then on, and start at the spin, it groans and
turns
a bit then stops.

Foolishly, I decided to try the rinse cycles, and now the machine is
full of
water that won't drain (well, most is hand bucketed out now).

Now when it starts the spin, it just hums without moving the tub.

I assume some of the motor drive mosfets have probably gone. Are they
easy
to replace (ie. purchase)?

Typical in service is to replace the entire motor controller module.

You could try Doug Smith Spares but I suspect they are unlikely to supply
individual components of a controller.

Could also be a bearing problem.

You should be able to drain the machine by disconnecting the drain outlet
at the back and lowering it.

Far easier to drain it using commands in diagnostic mode.

 

[budgie]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:21 +1000, "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

Can you please post the codes here?

Nope. They were taken down off the website due to (apparently) a threat of
litigation. I'm not about to hang my arse out in the breeze TUVM.

(overdue trimming applied)

 

[The Real Andy]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:59:59 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:21 +1000, "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

Can you please post the codes here?

Nope. They were taken down off the website due to (apparently) a threat of
litigation. I'm not about to hang my arse out in the breeze TUVM.

(overdue trimming applied)

Two people asked for schem's, were you one? I don't know who it was,
different NG names.

 

[budgie]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:17:13 +1000, The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:59:59 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:21 +1000, "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

Can you please post the codes here?

Nope. They were taken down off the website due to (apparently) a threat of
litigation. I'm not about to hang my arse out in the breeze TUVM.

(overdue trimming applied)

Two people asked for schem's, were you one? I don't know who it was,
different NG names.

zippo

 

[The Real Andy]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:04:38 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:17:13 +1000, The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:59:59 +0800, budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:21 +1000, "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

Can you please post the codes here?

Nope. They were taken down off the website due to (apparently) a threat of
litigation. I'm not about to hang my arse out in the breeze TUVM.

(overdue trimming applied)

Two people asked for schem's, were you one? I don't know who it was,
different NG names.

zippo

Send me another email stating 'budgie' somewhere.