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Rudolf Usselmann
Guest
EDA wannabe wrote:
This has been happening for quite some time now. At first
(during the "good times") companies have been moving jobs
to India and China because there where not enough engineers
available in the US. Than during the recession, companies
have been moving/continuing to use India and China because
they *appear* to be cheaper than local talent.
And I think it is very important to analyze the cost "savings"
in greater detail. The truth is that engineers in these
developing countries, are less experienced and do not have the
needed background of pulling through large projects. As smart
as they may be, doing a large project and coordinating some 100
engineers is a tough task. My personal experience with products
coming from the developing/low cost countries, is that the quality
of workmanship is just not there YET. Many of the "savings" are
getting killed because things have to be rewritten/redesigned/fixed/
start over from scratch. Typically the decisions of outsourcing
is done by upper management without any feedback from any senior
engineers in the US. Managers and engineers are hired in the
developing countries with the expectation that they will deliver
good of same quality as their US counterparts. So far in my opinion
this has not happened (YET !).
I believe that in the next 5-10 years we will see the experience
level increase and the quality of products to start reaching the
same levels as what we would expect form US based engineers. At
the same time, I believe, these engineers expectations will be
raising as well. As these engineers become more senior and
experienced, many of them will have the opportunity to go to the
US and get a "high-paying" job. As such the "cost advantage"
together with the lower expectation in the US (which will be in
my opinion a natural development) will become a wash.
Overall I believe we will see a few swings back and forth of this
outsourcing "problem" the US is facing. After a while this will
become irrelevant as all of the developing countries will become
also leaders on the same level as the US. I think if the US does
not start attracting new internal engineers by providing more
incentives for students, it, as a whole country, will eventually
fall behind in the technology sector, which will be led by Japan,
China and India (in this order - I believe). I believe this fall
back, can already be observed in the automotive industry ...
And that, will be by far a much larger problem everybody in the US
will face than the outsourcing you see today.
Best Regards,
rudi
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Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis
This has been happening for quite some time now. At first
(during the "good times") companies have been moving jobs
to India and China because there where not enough engineers
available in the US. Than during the recession, companies
have been moving/continuing to use India and China because
they *appear* to be cheaper than local talent.
And I think it is very important to analyze the cost "savings"
in greater detail. The truth is that engineers in these
developing countries, are less experienced and do not have the
needed background of pulling through large projects. As smart
as they may be, doing a large project and coordinating some 100
engineers is a tough task. My personal experience with products
coming from the developing/low cost countries, is that the quality
of workmanship is just not there YET. Many of the "savings" are
getting killed because things have to be rewritten/redesigned/fixed/
start over from scratch. Typically the decisions of outsourcing
is done by upper management without any feedback from any senior
engineers in the US. Managers and engineers are hired in the
developing countries with the expectation that they will deliver
good of same quality as their US counterparts. So far in my opinion
this has not happened (YET !).
I believe that in the next 5-10 years we will see the experience
level increase and the quality of products to start reaching the
same levels as what we would expect form US based engineers. At
the same time, I believe, these engineers expectations will be
raising as well. As these engineers become more senior and
experienced, many of them will have the opportunity to go to the
US and get a "high-paying" job. As such the "cost advantage"
together with the lower expectation in the US (which will be in
my opinion a natural development) will become a wash.
Overall I believe we will see a few swings back and forth of this
outsourcing "problem" the US is facing. After a while this will
become irrelevant as all of the developing countries will become
also leaders on the same level as the US. I think if the US does
not start attracting new internal engineers by providing more
incentives for students, it, as a whole country, will eventually
fall behind in the technology sector, which will be led by Japan,
China and India (in this order - I believe). I believe this fall
back, can already be observed in the automotive industry ...
And that, will be by far a much larger problem everybody in the US
will face than the outsourcing you see today.
Best Regards,
rudi
=============================================================
Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis