essay about engineers

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:28:19 +0000, David Nadlinger
<david@klickverbot.at> wrote:

On 21.02.20 7:50 pm, John Larkin wrote:
Here's a pulse generator output stage, as a mouse-bite component.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9ax8q9u00obnx4/T577_Glob_2.jpg?raw=1

Is that epoxy top for mechanical robustness of some (presumably GaN)
chip, or just for IP protection reasons?

— David

Both. I'm using EPC BGA GaN fets, and they are very fragile. A tiny
bump can knock them off the board, or fracture the chip. They are like
little glass blocks with sharp corners.

We need better epoxy, higher viscosity to cover all the parts, and a
nice way to dispense in production. Maybe a pump nozzle on our Tormach
n/c mill?

I expect a panel of rev C of this board any day now. It has been
tweaked some, big learning curve, but we need it to be done soon. I
think the virus in China has messed up the entire PCB industry.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[bitrex]

On 2/21/20 2:52 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:26:52 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:27:01 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:44:44 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:15:33 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_the_engineer.html

Huh, you really don't like Bloomberg for some reason?

I posted a link about engineers, something that is rare in the popular
press. I expressed no opinions.
Huh, OK I read the first bit and it looked mostly like a political
hit piece. bloom ~ carter ~ hoover.
Was there any useful engineering in there?

If you think that engineers have no personality and decide everything
without emotion, no.

Bloomberg is a terrible candidate - one of the few things the majority
of Americans can agree on...

 

[George Herold]

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 3:44:09 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:55:28 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 2:02:40 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-02-21 13:26, George Herold wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:27:01 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:44:44 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:15:33 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_the_engineer.html

Huh, you really don't like Bloomberg for some reason?

I posted a link about engineers, something that is rare in the popular
press. I expressed no opinions.
Huh, OK I read the first bit and it looked mostly like a political
hit piece. bloom ~ carter ~ hoover.
Was there any useful engineering in there?
(You don't have to answer that.. it was a rhetorical question.)


Mind you I hardly know anything about the man.. and still
at the moment, I'd vote for him before Bernie.
(Sorry any Bernie Bros)
I saw some thing with a Bloomberg/Romney ticket.
That would be fun.

(thread yank.)
Hey did you know you that all hamburgers in Canada have to be well done?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/medium-rare-burgers-are-taboo-in-canada-but-may-not-be-as-perilous-as-thought

I can get whatever I want here. I do like it a little warm inside.
Yeah, I don't want a rare hamburger. medium is good. And the
right amount of grease. With a good burger, grease should leak out
and run down your arm as you bite into it. I guess everyone can
cook what they want on their barbeque (why is there no q in there?)

I made this chicken pot pie last night.
Three chicken thighs, but you peel off the skin and fry that
up crispy.. and for the fat to cook the rest of it in.
(chicken skin ~ bacon)
Then this puff pastry on top and into the oven.
It was great.



If we are going to be OT.. then it should be about important things.

Engineering is OT here? Yes, it mostly is.

Oh.. so here's a thing.
What's the best way to make some modular circuits that you can hook up
in different ways?

There are all sorts of 'crates' and (well you sell to that market.)

But the 'crates' are spendy, and give you constraints.



So (at least for myself and home lab) I've been thinking of
using aluminum U-chan. to make project/ circuit boxes.
(more me these would be mostly analog.. )
(input on one side, controls on the top/ (or bottom of
open pcb.) I'm thinking of switches/ pot's mounted to the
top side.) and output on the third side. (power-in maybe
on the output side*.)

Yup. The old-fashioned 44-pin card edge connector still works, but with
bare boards you have to use modular shields over sensitive (or noisy)
stuff. BITD Tek 500-series modules used similar 80-pin connectors iirc.

Who's going to be doing the hooking up? If it's students, I really like
metal-body BNCs. They're far more durable than SMBs or SMAs. For
sending analogue signals between boards, we often use U.FL (UMCC) coax
connections, which are cheap, good, and small.
Huh I've seen the "U.FL (UMCC) coax" but never used it.

They make cool transmission-line transformers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kc217v0lfqaa48u/Pot_Core_TXline.JPG?raw=1
Yeah that's just magic. Oh, some coax/transformer lab?

George H.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpu6wpli7pvwuih/TX_1.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zaftysxtgclxj82/Z412_Proto.JPG?raw=1


You can pick-and-place the connectors on a board. This is a lot easier
to manufacture than soldering wires.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/afe4oa9xuqdpbi2/Xfmrs.JPG?raw=1

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[George Herold]

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:

On 2020/02/21 12:11 p.m., George Herold wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 2:50:33 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:26:52 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:27:01 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:44:44 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:15:33 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_the_engineer.html

Huh, you really don't like Bloomberg for some reason?

I posted a link about engineers, something that is rare in the popular
press. I expressed no opinions.
Huh, OK I read the first bit and it looked mostly like a political
hit piece. bloom ~ carter ~ hoover.
Was there any useful engineering in there?
(You don't have to answer that.. it was a rhetorical question.)


Mind you I hardly know anything about the man.. and still
at the moment, I'd vote for him before Bernie.
(Sorry any Bernie Bros)
I saw some thing with a Bloomberg/Romney ticket.
That would be fun.

(thread yank.)
Hey did you know you that all hamburgers in Canada have to be well done?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/medium-rare-burgers-are-taboo-in-canada-but-may-not-be-as-perilous-as-thought

I can get whatever I want here. I do like it a little warm inside.
Yeah, I don't want a rare hamburger. medium is good. And the
right amount of grease. With a good burger, grease should leak out
and run down your arm as you bite into it. I guess everyone can
cook what they want on their barbeque (why is there no q in there?)

I made this chicken pot pie last night.
Three chicken thighs, but you peel off the skin and fry that
up crispy.. and for the fat to cook the rest of it in.
(chicken skin ~ bacon)
Then this puff pastry on top and into the oven.
It was great.



If we are going to be OT.. then it should be about important things.

Engineering is OT here? Yes, it mostly is.

Oh.. so here's a thing.
What's the best way to make some modular circuits that you can hook up
in different ways?

There are all sorts of 'crates' and (well you sell to that market.)

But the 'crates' are spendy, and give you constraints.

So (at least for myself and home lab) I've been thinking of
using aluminum U-chan. to make project/ circuit boxes.
(more me these would be mostly analog.. )
(input on one side, controls on the top/ (or bottom of
open pcb.) I'm thinking of switches/ pot's mounted to the
top side.) and output on the third side. (power-in maybe
on the output side*.)
Any thought? The other 'standard' project box is five
sided with a lid. And you either build things on the lid
(limited area) or build it inside the box.. limited access.

1 foot of 2" deep by 4" wide U-chan is ~$18 on McM-C

George H.

*Speaking of power in, (and giving full cred to Phil H.) I was
thinking of standardizing on 24V (dc)


I just sort of invented a spin on my Dremel prototypes. The idea is to
make little adapters with mouse-bite connections. They can be single
tiny parts, or later on, functional circuits. A standard geometry
would open up possibilities for the carrier board.

I sawed up some Bellin adapters to make them mouse-bites

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i5o7ie33xe8ibpt/Z474_Partial.jpg?raw=1

Here's a pulse generator output stage, as a mouse-bite component.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9ax8q9u00obnx4/T577_Glob_2.jpg?raw=1


I could lay out a panel of various adapters for tiny parts, and have
the bites routed by the fab house.

I'm in some other world, thinking of DIP opamps and mechanical switches.

I guess I dream of circuits that could be kits,
and kids could build and hack,
through hole. (SMD' could be on little pcb's with solder pads?)

Digi-Key has those - so you can replace obsolete lead version ICs with
SMD versions that you solder to these boards:

https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/soic-to-dip-smt-adapters/60916

John :-#)#

Thanks, I know those. I made my own.. pcb's are cheap.
GH

George H.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:11:05 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

-----------------------------------------
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_the_engineer.html


** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the average bear.



..... Phil

It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[bitrex]

On 2/21/20 4:28 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:11:05 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

-----------------------------------------
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_the_engineer.html


** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the average bear.



..... Phil


It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.

Progressives make terrible engineers. That's why Woz went broke.

 

[Phil Allison]

John Larkin wrote:

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** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the average bear.




It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.

** Holding rigid ideas plus a total lack of empathy explains a lot.

Add a touch of the psychopath and you have it.

Sound like any people here ?




..... Phil

 

[bitrex]

On 2/21/20 4:58 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

---------------------


** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the average bear.




It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.



** Holding rigid ideas plus a total lack of empathy explains a lot.

Add a touch of the psychopath and you have it.

Sound like any people here ?




.... Phil

Everyone except Phil Allison

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 22/2/20 7:59 am, George Herold wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
Digi-Key has those - so you can replace obsolete lead version ICs with
SMD versions that you solder to these boards:

https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/soic-to-dip-smt-adapters/60916
John :-#)#
Thanks, I know those. I made my own.. pcb's are cheap.

If you don't always need to replace DIP and don't want to require
through-hole mounting, you can make SMD adapters using castellated edge
connectors (plated mouse-bites) on the same centres as the DIPs.

That way you can solder them down by the edges to top-side copper, or
fit two rows of header pins through-hole and solder the module between
the rows to fit the DIP planform.

Flexible.

Clifford Heath.

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 22/2/20 6:02 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-02-21 13:26, George Herold wrote:
So (at least for myself and home lab) I've been thinking of
using aluminum U-chan. to make project/ circuit boxes.

Who's going to be doing the hooking up?  If it's students, I really like
metal-body BNCs.  They're far more durable than SMBs or SMAs.  For
sending analogue signals between boards, we often use U.FL (UMCC) coax
connections, which are cheap, good, and small.

Phil, how do you acquire U.FL cables? Just use the pre-fab ones? I've
looked but not found the end connectors, only finished cables. The SMD
sockets are legion, but not the cable ends. Is that patent/design licensing?

1 foot of 2" deep by 4" wide U-chan is ~$18 on McM-C

I've made some cases from 50x50mm square extrusion in 1.6mm wall
thickness. I cut them length-ways into assymetric U-channel with 12mm
and 35mm sides (plus 3mm saw kerf). The 50mm is the front or back panel,
the 35mm gets pop-riveted to a base sheet that can be as deep as you want.

Wish I could get 60mmx60mm, but they only make that in bigger wall
thicknesses. But I like having a standard front-panel height (and 50mm
is enough) with a depth that's continuously variable.

Yeah, higher voltage supplies make things easier, except that if you're
making high current low voltage rails (e.g. our class-H TEC driver) you
sometimes need to step down to an intermediate voltage.  (It isn't too
efficient using an async buck to make 1.3 volts at 3 amps.)

We were thinking of standardising on providing 5V and 12V for our
(RF+signal) modules. 5V is not too wasteful to use linear regs to make
clean 3v3, and 12v is high enough to efficiently transform to any other
rail.

Clifford Heath.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-02-21 17:19, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 22/2/20 6:02 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-02-21 13:26, George Herold wrote:
So (at least for myself and home lab) I've been thinking of
using aluminum U-chan. to make project/ circuit boxes.


Who's going to be doing the hooking up?  If it's students, I really
like metal-body BNCs.  They're far more durable than SMBs or SMAs.
For sending analogue signals between boards, we often use U.FL (UMCC)
coax connections, which are cheap, good, and small.


Phil, how do you acquire U.FL cables? Just use the pre-fab ones? I've
looked but not found the end connectors, only finished cables. The SMD
sockets are legion, but not the cable ends. Is that patent/design
licensing?

Dunno. I wouldn't want to make one by hand, for sure. OTOH I haven't
made a BNC cable in probably 20 years either.

1 foot of 2" deep by 4" wide U-chan is ~$18 on McM-C


I've made some cases from 50x50mm square extrusion in 1.6mm wall
thickness. I cut them length-ways into assymetric U-channel with 12mm
and 35mm sides (plus 3mm saw kerf). The 50mm is the front or back panel,
the 35mm gets pop-riveted to a base sheet that can be as deep as you want.

Wish I could get 60mmx60mm, but they only make that in bigger wall
thicknesses. But I like having a standard front-panel height (and 50mm
is enough) with a depth that's continuously variable.

Yeah, higher voltage supplies make things easier, except that if
you're making high current low voltage rails (e.g. our class-H TEC
driver) you sometimes need to step down to an intermediate voltage.
(It isn't too efficient using an async buck to make 1.3 volts at 3 amps.)


We were thinking of standardising on providing 5V and 12V for our
(RF+signal) modules. 5V is not too wasteful to use linear regs to make
clean 3v3, and 12v is high enough to efficiently transform to any other
rail.

Not unreasonable. Our approach is to attempt to make stuff work OK from
either our suggested wart (an SL Power ME10A2403B01) or any random 20V
laptop supply that fits the connector. We've done stuff that runs off a
micro-USB 5V supply as well.

The issue is when people connect a higher voltage wart that has the same
connector. To prevent that sort of breakage, we standardized on the
highest common voltage that connects with a 5/2.5 mm barrel connector.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:58:01 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

---------------------


** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the average bear.




It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.



** Holding rigid ideas plus a total lack of empathy explains a lot.

Add a touch of the psychopath and you have it.

Likely those terrorists weren't very good engineers.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/11/theres-a-good-reason-why-so-many-terrorists-are-engineers/

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Engineers_and_woo


Of course, without engineers, there would be maybe 50 million humans
on Earth, mostly illiterate hunter-gatherers at war with neighboring
tribes.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Les Cargill]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
newsvsv4f1gtc2kuf3l5kakqnlgdkdr1u31tq@4ax.com:


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg_
the_engineer.html




So what is your position, jackass? Are you a trumptarded dipshit
gonna dis the man? Or credit him with being four orders of magnitude
more intelligent than the dangerous buffoon retards like you helped
put in our nation's highest office? Which is it, Trumpanzee punk?

Do you know what he engineered and made his money on BEFORE he
became an investment mogul?

He engineered the terminals ALL of Wall Street used for two
decades.

He got rich the same way Perot did. By hard work.

Heh. Owner of the first company I worked for bought one. Not for
"hard work" but to pump and dump his own penny stock. Just like
the plot from "The Wolf of Wall Street" but smaller time. Got away with
it for *decades*.

--
Les Cargill

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 22/2/20 10:14 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:

The issue is when people connect a higher voltage wart that has the same
connector.  To prevent that sort of breakage, we standardized on the
highest common voltage that connects with a 5/2.5 mm barrel connector.

1W 20V zener and a polyfuse (bypassed by a warning LED+R) across the
incoming rail? Would that even work?

Clifford Heath.

 

On Friday, 21 February 2020 21:28:52 UTC, John Larkin wrote:

It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.

There's no effective filter for terrible people so it's to be expected.


NT

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-02-21 18:51, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 22/2/20 10:14 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
The issue is when people connect a higher voltage wart that has the
same connector.  To prevent that sort of breakage, we standardized on
the highest common voltage that connects with a 5/2.5 mm barrel
connector.

1W 20V zener and a polyfuse (bypassed by a warning LED+R) across the
incoming rail? Would that even work?

Clifford Heath.

Sure, but polyfuses have very finite lifetimes, and ISTM it's easier to
just use 24V supplies. (We generally use a Littelfuse RXEF-series
polyfuse and a 26V unidirectional transzorb as well.)

Cheers

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:OCX3G.543586$K87.469247@fx46.iad:

On 2/21/20 2:52 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:26:52 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:27:01 PM UTC-5,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:44:44 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:15:33 AM UTC-5,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloom
berg_the_engineer.html

Huh, you really don't like Bloomberg for some reason?

I posted a link about engineers, something that is rare in the
popular press. I expressed no opinions.
Huh, OK I read the first bit and it looked mostly like a
political hit piece. bloom ~ carter ~ hoover.
Was there any useful engineering in there?

If you think that engineers have no personality and decide
everything without emotion, no.


Bloomberg is a terrible candidate - one of the few things the
majority of Americans can agree on...

Compared to what? Trump?

Oh and why? Because he is rich?

What are your disqualifiers, besides the fact that he jumped on
board with the COP's racist policy and endorsed it. He apologized
for that.

I was raised in a fairly racist neighborhood, yet I did not grow up
racist, despite carrying a couple of the bad colloquialisms for a
bit. I will not be apologizing for that steered behavior.

Bloomberg was steered into that.

Just like Trump has been being steered, but Trumptards are too
stupid to notice what is really going on.

 

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
news:89ba17e6-e132-4352-b694-749da6e9f921@googlegroups.com:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

-----------------------------------------
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/michael_bloomberg
_the_engineer.html


** Never come across Mr Welderson before - seems like an expert
essay writer. I checked some of his other works in the link - re
abortion and "chicken little".

IMO he "engineers" readable and entertaining essays, long enough
to say something while short enough not to bore.

I think he has some pretty good insights and is smarter then the
average bear.



..... Phil

Except where he said that engineers do not make good leaders.

In that view, the dope is an abject idiot.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:vKX3G.43036$Gy2.11491@fx30.iad:

Bloomberg would make a poor President primarily for the same
reason Trump does - he's a deeply out-of-touch billionaire who
only knows how to work for cronies.

Bullshit.

He EARNED ALL of his money, unlike the retarded Trumpanzee dumbfuck
who made ALL of his money from collecting rentsa, and he STILL fucked
his businesses up... ALL OF THEM.

Bloomberg NEVER did any such thing. He HARD EARNED every dime and
that was BEFORE He went into the investment things. Comparing Trump
to Bloomberg simply because both are rich is about as retarded an
assessment as can be made.

Trump is nothing more than a criminal level NYC landlord and
shyster. At best. A failed businessman leaving hundreds of millions
in debt to folks he contracted who did work for the stupid bastard in
good faith.

FUCK DONALD JOHN TRUMP! He IS A GODDAMNED IDIOT AND THE WORST
THING THIS COUNTRY EVER HAD HAPPEN TO IT.

 

[bitrex]

On 2/21/20 7:23 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 21 February 2020 21:28:52 UTC, John Larkin wrote:

It's interesting that some really terrible people, terrorists and
dictators, started as, or were at least educated as, engineers.

There's no effective filter for terrible people so it's to be expected.


NT

I feel my suggestion to relax gun control restrictions enormously, in
exchange for requiring all handguns and assault rifles sold to only be
manufactured in pink, have Hello Kitty on one side and "Big sexy gay
boy" engraved on the other, would filter some, but it wasn't met with
great enthusiasm here.

Firearms are tools, this in no way affects the mechanical operation of
the tool.