Epic California snowpack among biggest on record; major flood risk as it melts Published: April 3, 2023 at 7:44 p.m. ET By Associated Press...

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:21:46 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12:15:21 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

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I just picked up our morning SF Chronic newspaper [1] and there is a
giant front-page headline about how current conditions are preventing
us from getting our usual fog. It has lots of technical and scientific
reasons. I could barely find the paper for the fog. Mt San Bruno is
gone in the mist.

When experts predict future states of chaotic systems the result is humor.

The solar system is chaotic, and people seem to be able to predict where most of the plants are going to be quite a way in advance. It does take a million years or so for the minor effects to build up enough to make the system unpredictable. Weather is chaotic but climate is predictable enough for farming to work.

John Larkin isn\'t any kind of expert but his attempts to tell us what experts can predict are pretty comical.

Hey Bozo, Milankovitch cycles AREN\'T chaotic.

Obviously not, but they aren\'t a feature of the solar system, merely a consequence of earth\'s orientation within the solar system.

And they don\'t have anything to do with the current episode of anthropogenic global warming either.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 8:15:32?AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12:15:21?AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com
wrote:

Epic California snowpack among biggest on record; major flood risk as it melts
Published: April 3, 2023 at 7:44 p.m. ET
By Associated Press

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/epic-california-snowpack-among-biggest-on-record-major-flood-risk-as-it-melts-967248a3?mod=mw_latestnews
Officials say water content in snowpack is highest since 1983, posing ‘significant’ flooding risk this spring
People walk on stairs lined with massive snow piles March 30 in Mammoth Lakes, Calif. Getty Images

LOS ANGELES — This year’s epic snowpack in California’s Sierra Nevada could top records, state officials said Monday, and significant flooding is expected when it melts and flows down from the mountains.

Just months after the state was dangerously deep in drought, its reservoirs are filling, with the snowpack yet to melt.

The water content...
I just picked up our morning SF Chronic newspaper [1] and there is a
giant front-page headline about how current conditions are preventing
us from getting our usual fog. It has lots of technical and scientific
reasons. I could barely find the paper for the fog. Mt San Bruno is
gone in the mist.

When experts predict future states of chaotic systems the result is humor.
The solar system is chaotic, and people seem to be able to predict where most of the plants are going to be quite a way in advance. It does take a million years or so for the minor effects to build up enough to make the system unpredictable. Weather is chaotic but climate is predictable enough for farming to work.

John Larkin isn\'t any kind of expert but his attempts to tell us what experts can predict are pretty comical.

--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

Hey Bozo, Milankovitch cycles AREN\'T chaotic.

Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper

The solar system, the planetary orbits, are chaotic. Milankovitch
cycles are chaotic. And not understood. Google for \"100-kyr problem\".

Being instantly insulting is usually founded in ignorance.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:47:58 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 8:15:32?AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12:15:21?AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com
wrote:

Epic California snowpack among biggest on record; major flood risk as it melts
Published: April 3, 2023 at 7:44 p.m. ET
By Associated Press

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/epic-california-snowpack-among-biggest-on-record-major-flood-risk-as-it-melts-967248a3?mod=mw_latestnews
Officials say water content in snowpack is highest since 1983, posing ‘significant’ flooding risk this spring
People walk on stairs lined with massive snow piles March 30 in Mammoth Lakes, Calif. Getty Images

LOS ANGELES — This year’s epic snowpack in California’s Sierra Nevada could top records, state officials said Monday, and significant flooding is expected when it melts and flows down from the mountains.

Just months after the state was dangerously deep in drought, its reservoirs are filling, with the snowpack yet to melt.

The water content...
I just picked up our morning SF Chronic newspaper [1] and there is a
giant front-page headline about how current conditions are preventing
us from getting our usual fog. It has lots of technical and scientific
reasons. I could barely find the paper for the fog. Mt San Bruno is
gone in the mist.

When experts predict future states of chaotic systems the result is humor.
The solar system is chaotic, and people seem to be able to predict where most of the plants are going to be quite a way in advance. It does take a million years or so for the minor effects to build up enough to make the system unpredictable. Weather is chaotic but climate is predictable enough for farming to work.

John Larkin isn\'t any kind of expert but his attempts to tell us what experts can predict are pretty comical.

Hey Bill, Milankovitch cycles AREN\'T chaotic.

The solar system, the planetary orbits, are chaotic. Milankovitch cycles are chaotic.

They aren\'t.

> And not understood. Google for \"100-kyr problem\".

The problem is that the Milankovitch effect is tiny, and the fact that it can flip the earth from ice ages to interglacials depends on the current arrangement of the continents. The planet has only been cycling between ice ages and interglacials for the past couple of million years, and we\'ve only been able to understand what was going on since we started looking hard at global warming.

You don\'t know about that work because you get your information on the subject from climate change denial propaganda.

> Being instantly insulting is usually founded in ignorance.

In this case it\'s your ignorance that generates the insults. If you could learn that you were wrong, you might get sympathetic help. As it is, you persistently reiterate your fatuous assertions in way that is guaranteed to generate well-deserved insulting responses.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

> The solar system, the planetary orbits, are chaotic.

Not on the one-or-ten millenium timescales, they aren\'t!

Milankovitch
cycles are chaotic. And not understood. Google for \"100-kyr problem\".

Yeah, long-timescale prediction turns to a statistical mechanical problem, i.e.
thermodynamics still works, but Newtonian mechanics turns noisy.
We\'ve got a name for, and calculations of, Milankovich cycles; where
does the \'not understood\' conclusion come from? Wishful thinking?

> Being instantly insulting is usually founded in ignorance.

Says an ignorant guy who uses \'is chaotic\' to cover his arrogance and dismissal of science.
I\'m with Galileo: \"Eppur si muove\"