Electronic Repair and Design group on Facebook

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014, josephkk wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:39:07 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, skaggs.larry@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link to a new Electronics Repair and Design group that I have
started, need new members and fresh ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/528254330634866/

Which is it, repair or design?

20 years ago, this hierarchy consisted of sci.electronics and
sci.electronics.repair It was some time in 1995 that Mark Zenier
put in the effort to divide up sci.electronics into the multiple
newsgroups we see today, design being one of them. But for some
reason (and I wasn't around before late 1994), someone had seen fit
to make .repair a separate newsgroup, even before any other subgroups
were created.

SED started in the early 1980s. Mark Z. must be some Johnny come lately,
as Big 8 was already in place in 1995. SED predates Big 8. That is why
it has no charter.

Where you getting this?

I started reading sci.electronics in late 1994, only that and
sci.electronics.repair existed.

I know longer find Mark's guide to the hierarchy at his own location, but
there is a copy at
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_Groups.html

So I was off a bit, the division, which created .design along with the
other subdivisions came at the beginning of 1996.

Michael
 
<mc@uga.edu> wrote:

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:13:29 PM UTC-4, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:

Facebook have been spamming me for months. They appear to have obtained
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Hmmm... In my considerable experience, as far as I can determine, Facebook
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They have been spamming me for months, having harvested address books
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Subject: Do you know Natasha Woodward, Paul Morris and Roger
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Sent: 140716 08:11
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Sent: 140723 23:30
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On 25/07/14 20:46, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
mc@uga.edu> wrote:

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:13:29 PM UTC-4, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:

Facebook have been spamming me for months. They appear to have obtained
my e-mail address from the adress book of friends who were foolish
enough to fall for their trickery.

Hmmm... In my considerable experience, as far as I can determine, Facebook
does not spam.

They have been spamming me for months, having harvested address books
containing my e-mail.

This month so far:


~~~~~~~~~~~~

Subject: Do you know Shirley Bransgrove, Mick Holditch and Gill
Berry?

<snip>

Precisely. And if you ever catch up with these folks in real life, they
will swear blind that they never intentionally sent out those emails.

Facebook *do* spam.

It's unwanted, unnecessary and worse, since facebook claim property
ownership over _everything_ shared on there, it's a risky place where
your design ideas will be taken from you, for their profit - read the
small print....

So a Electronic Repair and Design group? Stay well away, people.

--
Adrian C
 
In article <cdr3t9pr0hkaaka174n1bv6gl0nofhumq5@4ax.com>,
josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:39:07 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, skaggs.larry@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link to a new Electronics Repair and Design group that I have
started, need new members and fresh ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/528254330634866/

Which is it, repair or design?

20 years ago, this hierarchy consisted of sci.electronics and
sci.electronics.repair It was some time in 1995 that Mark Zenier
put in the effort to divide up sci.electronics into the multiple
newsgroups we see today, design being one of them. But for some
reason (and I wasn't around before late 1994), someone had seen fit
to make .repair a separate newsgroup, even before any other subgroups
were created.

SED started in the early 1980s. Mark Z. must be some Johnny come lately,
as Big 8 was already in place in 1995. SED predates Big 8. That is why
it has no charter.

How do I put this. Er, how about "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG!".

Somtime before I got here, (I'd guess about 1983), they created
"net.analog". (Last I knew, you could read all that group's traffic in
the Google Groups archive. About 300 messages over the three of four
years it existed).

Then in the Fall of 1986, they did "The Great Renaming" that created
the Big 7 newsgroups list. net.analog became sci.electronics.
(The 8th "humanities" hierarchy came later).

(Johnny come lately? I've been participating in the newsgroups since,
near as I can tell, March 1988).

And then AOL, Microsoft and the other nationwide internet providers
came online and we got "Eternal September" around 1993-94. Traffic
in sci.electronics hit around 400 posts a day. Over the ability to
follow the group for a lot of people.

So we decided to do something about it. I stepped forward, (shoved my
way into other people business ;-) ) and did the first reorg. Using
the princple of "if you're going to split a group, pick a topic that
already has traffic for it", sci.electronics.repair and sci.electronics.cad
were voted on and created. Sci.electronics had about 25 posts on repairs
a day, the new .repair group jumped up to about 75 posts a day.

That wasn't enough, so there was a second reorg about a year later.
This ended up creating .components, .design, .equipment, .basics,
and .misc.

Why didn't sci.electronics get left as it is? They (the moderator
committee for news.announce.newgroups, the regulators of the namespace)
wouldn't let me. So, supposedly, sci.electronics.misc was to take
its place.

(I can't find this stuff on my disk and I don't want to spend the
time digging through archive CD-ROMS. There are text files that
have both reorg discussions on ftp.eskimo.com under the mzenier user
directory.)

There is a charter for sci.electronics.design. It's one line.

There was a fashion for huge "US Constitution" type charters, back then.
IMHO, all that did was attract language lawyer net.trolls determined to
cause trouble by following the letter but not the spirit of the charters.
Since the reaction to abuse is the same whether or not it's in the
charter, keep the charter at a minimum.

There's also a Rationale in the vote announcment that discusses the three
level split of .components/.design/.equipment that should be taken into
account for the charters of all three groups.


Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
 
On 7/24/2014 8:13 AM, Baron wrote:
Michael Black prodded the keyboard

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, skaggs.larry@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link to a new Electronics Repair and Design group that I
have started, need new members and fresh ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/528254330634866/


Anyone who announces a facebook group here is a fool. Anyone
left in a newsgroup is not going to be moving to facebook, we've
made our choice and lived with the lesser traffic each year.

All you have is a facebook page, something any fool can create. It
takes a lot more to actually make it valuable.

Michael

The newsgroup works very well for me ! No way am I going to use
facebook or any other social network for that matter.
I wouldn't either, they have called us grouchy and rude over there! :)
I think I'll go kick the dog, or something.
Mikek



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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:39:40 GMT, mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) wrote:

In article <cdr3t9pr0hkaaka174n1bv6gl0nofhumq5@4ax.com>,
josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:39:07 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, skaggs.larry@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link to a new Electronics Repair and Design group that I have
started, need new members and fresh ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/528254330634866/

Which is it, repair or design?

20 years ago, this hierarchy consisted of sci.electronics and
sci.electronics.repair It was some time in 1995 that Mark Zenier
put in the effort to divide up sci.electronics into the multiple
newsgroups we see today, design being one of them. But for some
reason (and I wasn't around before late 1994), someone had seen fit
to make .repair a separate newsgroup, even before any other subgroups
were created.

SED started in the early 1980s. Mark Z. must be some Johnny come lately,
as Big 8 was already in place in 1995. SED predates Big 8. That is why
it has no charter.

How do I put this. Er, how about "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG!".

Somtime before I got here, (I'd guess about 1983), they created
"net.analog". (Last I knew, you could read all that group's traffic in
the Google Groups archive. About 300 messages over the three of four
years it existed).

Then in the Fall of 1986, they did "The Great Renaming" that created
the Big 7 newsgroups list. net.analog became sci.electronics.
(The 8th "humanities" hierarchy came later).

(Johnny come lately? I've been participating in the newsgroups since,
near as I can tell, March 1988).

And then AOL, Microsoft and the other nationwide internet providers
came online and we got "Eternal September" around 1993-94. Traffic
in sci.electronics hit around 400 posts a day. Over the ability to
follow the group for a lot of people.

So we decided to do something about it. I stepped forward, (shoved my
way into other people business ;-) ) and did the first reorg. Using
the princple of "if you're going to split a group, pick a topic that
already has traffic for it", sci.electronics.repair and sci.electronics.cad
were voted on and created. Sci.electronics had about 25 posts on repairs
a day, the new .repair group jumped up to about 75 posts a day.

That wasn't enough, so there was a second reorg about a year later.
This ended up creating .components, .design, .equipment, .basics,
and .misc.

Why didn't sci.electronics get left as it is? They (the moderator
committee for news.announce.newgroups, the regulators of the namespace)
wouldn't let me. So, supposedly, sci.electronics.misc was to take
its place.

(I can't find this stuff on my disk and I don't want to spend the
time digging through archive CD-ROMS. There are text files that
have both reorg discussions on ftp.eskimo.com under the mzenier user
directory.)

There is a charter for sci.electronics.design. It's one line.

There was a fashion for huge "US Constitution" type charters, back then.
IMHO, all that did was attract language lawyer net.trolls determined to
cause trouble by following the letter but not the spirit of the charters.
Since the reaction to abuse is the same whether or not it's in the
charter, keep the charter at a minimum.

There's also a Rationale in the vote announcment that discusses the three
level split of .components/.design/.equipment that should be taken into
account for the charters of all three groups.


Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
Much of what you have said validates. Still can't find any charter. Any
pointers?

?-)
 

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