electrical shock

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:30:57 GMT, Charles Jean
<alchemcj@earthlink.net> Gave us:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:27:02 +0100, "Mjolinor" <mjolinor@hotmail.com
wrote:


"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:40:47 +0100, "Mjolinor" <mjolinor@hotmail.com
Gave us:

No. But you can take this intelegence test to see if your brain has
been
affected...

http://www.namvets.com/Reading/intellegence_test.htm


That is wierd.



It is spelled WEIRD.

That as well

It is spelled INTELLIGENCE.
The Windows philosophy is perhaps best summed up by the instruction: "To
shut down your computer, click on the Start button..."

No! First, you pull the plug from the wall part way and jam your
tongue into the exposed blades!

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:34:50 +0100, dave <dave@local.nonet> Gave us:

Not many capacitors "store" 50/60 Hz A.C. btw

It would depend on when the thing was removed from power. It could
very well have a charge on it. Also, HV caps BUILD charge all by
themselves without a bleeder of some sort.

In any case, the point is that DC can kill just as easily as AC, and
ANY remark that makes one sound OK or "safe" is just plain stupid.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:38:51 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> Gave us:

No, "it" is spelled "it".

"It" referred to the quoted text above it. It is pretty simple to
grasp for most.

But perhaps you were referring to the conventional spelling of "weird",
in which case you should have written something like: ""wierd is
conventionally spelled "weird"".

No. I should have written whatever I felt I wanted to write, and I
did.

It's the nuances which give the language its flavor, dont'cha know?

"cha"? Does that mean that you are CHAD from a voting ballot?

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:43:24 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

Loath as I am to reply to a vile mouthed and ill informed scumbag such as
yourself,

You deserve it for being a stupid twit about something which can be
dangerous.

there is nothing to suggest, either in the literature or in
practical experience at a major metropolitan hospital in the bio-electronics
dept., that D.C. can cause defibrillation.

Why don't you come over to our HV lab and hook yourself up to one of
our HV supplies at say 18 or even 50kVDC. I'll call the coroner just
before you hit the switch.

You utter dumbfuck! DC is exactly what doctors use for
DEfibrillation.

FIBRILLATION, on the other hand, CAN be caused by ANY electron flow
through the body, you clueless bastard!

You'd better BONE UP, BOY.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:43:24 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

If one has a weak heart, any
sudden surprise can cause a serious problem.

No shit, DIP TRACY.

Most people who get hurt by a
D.C. shock do so by smashing into something from the sudden surprise.

You're an idiot. HVDC supplies can kill INSTANTLY.

A.C.,
on the other hand, can send the heart into defibrillation with as little as
10 ua. current

Amps are denoted by an upper case "A", dumbass.

Wrong again. Open heart surgeons use 2uA paddles, and close
patients get well over 40uA. The general industrial consensus is that
40uA will cause it. It matters not if it is alternating or direct.

current. Modern medical equipment allows a maximum of 10ua. leakage
into a patient lead.

Dumbshit. UL and medical industry standards for equipment leakage
are far different than electrical shock effects on the body that come
directly from electrical energy sources.

You need to get off your "don't cuss at me.."wussy boy high horse
and get a clue.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:46:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

that D.C. can cause defibrillation.

OOPS! Should read fibrillation.

Retard.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:02:23 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

"Baphomet" <fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:vn6700i117k7c1@corp.supernews.com...
that D.C. can cause defibrillation.

OOPS! Should read fibrillation.

And incidentally, modern defibrillators use a big assed monopolar Lown
Waveform to STOP the heart from fibrillating.

No. MOST use a huge DC pulse. Doh! Between 100 and 400 joules
worth. It comes from a charged and ready storage capacitor. DOH!

 

[DarkMatter]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:38:29 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

It is a shame, I agree. No matter, DarkMatter has very little gray
matter...and that is obvious in his lack of language skills; he also uses a
forged header (there is no such domain as thebarattheendof theuniverse.org)

Dumbfuck. THAT is NOT what a forged header is, you USENET clueless
as well RETARD!

 

[Andre]

"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message news:<3F737BB5.1B6C@armory.com>...

jdog1016 wrote:

A few hours ago, after my friend opened a disposable camera and was
playing with the capacitor, I picked up the circuit board and almost
immediately felt a shock. I dropped the thing as soon as I felt the
shock, but now I'm worried about what it could have done. I looked at
the capacitor and it was rated at 330v 120uF. I realize that because
I picked it up with both hands, this went straight through my heart,
but is there anything that I need to worry about?
----------
Yes, you're now dead, proceed to the exit on your right with the glowing
sign, go through the door and see God.

Heh .

So Steve, you ever been bit badly enough to have to go for a checkup ?

I haven't (yet).

-A

-Steve

 

[Baphomet]

"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:46:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandanospam@catskill.net> Gave us:

that D.C. can cause defibrillation.

OOPS! Should read fibrillation.


Retard.

If I'm so retarded, how come I caught my own mistake before you did?

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Andre wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message news:<3F737BB5.1B6C@armory.com>...
jdog1016 wrote:

A few hours ago, after my friend opened a disposable camera and was
playing with the capacitor, I picked up the circuit board and almost
immediately felt a shock. I dropped the thing as soon as I felt the
shock, but now I'm worried about what it could have done. I looked at
the capacitor and it was rated at 330v 120uF. I realize that because
I picked it up with both hands, this went straight through my heart,
but is there anything that I need to worry about?
----------
Yes, you're now dead, proceed to the exit on your right with the glowing
sign, go through the door and see God.

Heh .

So Steve, you ever been bit badly enough to have to go for a checkup ?

I haven't (yet).

-A
-------------

I have been very careful, with but a few shocks in my life, and
none on a dangerous path.

-Steve
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[John Fields]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:47:45 -0700, DarkMatter
<DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:38:51 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> Gave us:

But perhaps you were referring to the conventional spelling of "weird",
in which case you should have written something like: ""wierd is
conventionally spelled "weird"".

No. I should have written whatever I felt I wanted to write, and I
did.

---
You pretend that you wrote "wierd" voluntarily when, in fact, it's just
another error you're trying to pretend you didn't make. Same old shit.
---

It's the nuances which give the language its flavor, dont'cha know?

"cha"? Does that mean that you are CHAD from a voting ballot?

---
That's one of the lamest "retorts" I've ever read. Even from you. You
should be ashamed of yourself.

--
John Fields

 

[DarkMatter]

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:12:47 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> Gave us:

You pretend that you wrote "wierd" voluntarily when, in fact, it's just
another error you're trying to pretend you didn't make. Same old shit.

No, you dipshit. I corrected the guy that wrote wierd, you "didn't
read the whole thread " fucking retard.

It's the nuances which give the language its flavor, dont'cha know?

"cha"? Does that mean that you are CHAD from a voting ballot?


That's one of the lamest "retorts" I've ever read. Even from you. You
should be ashamed of yourself.

Yer a fukin' idiot a lot of the time, John. Remove your foot from
your mouth, and get back to reality. I never spelled it that way, I
corrected the "person" that did. DOH!

 

[Richard Crowley]

"jdog1016" wrote ...
A few hours ago, after my friend opened a disposable camera and was
playing with the capacitor, I picked up the circuit board and almost
immediately felt a shock. I dropped the thing as soon as I felt the
shock, but now I'm worried about what it could have done. I looked at
the capacitor and it was rated at 330v 120uF. I realize that because
I picked it up with both hands, this went straight through my heart,
but is there anything that I need to worry about?

"Baphomet" wrote ...

I'm shocked at how many responses this post has gotten

But just as "shocking" is that it was asked in the first place.
Don't they teach anything about basic biology/physiology anymore?
(Or perhaps it should be restated as "don't they LEARN..."!)
Note that it was posted from a college-level public institution!

 

[Baphomet]

"jdog1016" <jburro@vt.edu> wrote in message
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A few hours ago, after my friend opened a disposable camera and was
playing with the capacitor, I picked up the circuit board and almost
immediately felt a shock. I dropped the thing as soon as I felt the
shock, but now I'm worried about what it could have done. I looked at
the capacitor and it was rated at 330v 120uF. I realize that because
I picked it up with both hands, this went straight through my heart,
but is there anything that I need to worry about?

I'm shocked at how many responses this post has gotten

 

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <Svwcb.39252$R42.1787000@phobos.telenet-ops.be>,
colin.watters@pandora.be mentioned...

If there was a flash bulb in the camera the capacitor was probably part of
the charging circuit.

but is there anything that I need to worry about?

No. But you can take this intelegence test to see if your brain has been
affected...

http://www.namvets.com/Reading/intellegence_test.htm

Colin

Hah! If you're so darn brilliant, how come you can't even
spell intelligence?
^


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[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <3lk6nvgk1kuj123dukoph0fpi91a60v2t6@4ax.com>,
dave@local.nonet mentioned...

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:12:10 -0700, "Baphomet" <fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote:


Not many capacitors "store" 50/60 Hz A.C. btw

Dave -

You must not be up on the latest capacitor technology.
Don't know about "must", but that's true - I don't pretend otherwise.

It was just
announced by the I.E.E.E.
What - this morning!

that there is a new axial lead electrolytic that
spins around an axis with a rotational velocity equal to the ac frequency.
From its point of view, it is storing dc

As oppposed to a.c. - which is where we came in. You could hook up an electric
drill to one of those air-space caps (as popular in old radios) and beat their
patent

I think this should be reserved for posting on Apr 1.

btw a pity some abusive lang is creeping about over this. Surely we can all
disagree without that.

You should filter out any post from him. It's not hard to do.


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[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <vn6rj7fm0fha3@corp.supernews.com>,
fandanospam@catskill.net mentioned...

"dave" <dave@local.nonet> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:12:10 -0700, "Baphomet" <fandanospam@catskill.net
wrote:


Not many capacitors "store" 50/60 Hz A.C. btw

Dave -

You must not be up on the latest capacitor technology.
Don't know about "must", but that's true - I don't pretend otherwise.

It was just
announced by the I.E.E.E.
What - this morning!

that there is a new axial lead electrolytic that
spins around an axis with a rotational velocity equal to the ac
frequency.
From its point of view, it is storing dc

As oppposed to a.c. - which is where we came in. You could hook up an
electric
drill to one of those air-space caps (as popular in old radios) and beat
their
patent

btw a pity some abusive lang is creeping about over this. Surely we can
all
disagree without that.

It is a shame, I agree. No matter, DarkMatter has very little gray
matter...and that is obvious in his lack of language skills; he also uses a
forged header (there is no such domain as thebarattheendof theuniverse.org)

I agree. One more reason to filter him out.
Milliways was the restaurant at the end of the universe in Douglas
Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Cheers

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[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <9666nv81l5e3jse6g93mkjlq1v41mkjsf0@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com mentioned...

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:44:45 -0700, DarkMatter
DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:40:47 +0100, "Mjolinor" <mjolinor@hotmail.com
Gave us:

No. But you can take this intelegence test to see if your brain has been
affected...

http://www.namvets.com/Reading/intellegence_test.htm


That is wierd.



It is spelled WEIRD.

---

No, "it" is spelled "it".

But perhaps you were referring to the conventional spelling of "weird",
in which case you should have written something like: ""wierd is
conventionally spelled "weird"".

It's the nuances which give the language its flavor, dont'cha know?

And sometimes you're tasteless, too.

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[DarkMatter]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:30:05 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun"
<alondra101@hotmail.com> Gave us:

I agree. One more reason to filter him out.
Milliways was the restaurant at the end of the universe in Douglas
Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Dumbfuk. I am at the BAR next door. Nice ping, eh?

Do fuck off!