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Common sense.
Great example. Your "EER" concept, even if it DID work,Give an example....
Solar
Exactly when do you intend to start showing THAT? NothingThe point being, you have shown absolutely no evidence of any background
or
knowledge that would qualify you to
question that in the first place.
Common sense.
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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Give an example....
Solar
Great example. Your "EER" concept, even if it DID work, has absolutely
nothing to do with the problems facing solar power.
(Hint: solar power isn't being held back because there's no good way to store
or distribute the energy collected.)
Without a doubt, you are wrong.In short, this whole "EER" nonsense is IRRELEVANT to the question of how
rapidly solar power sources could be
adopted.
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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The point being, you have shown absolutely no evidence of any background
or
knowledge that would qualify you to
question that in the first place.
Common sense.
Exactly when do you intend to start showing THAT? Nothing you have said to
date demonstrates a shred of "common sense" on your part.
No it wouldn't. Or am I misunderstanding EER? I thought it was just an"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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Give an example....
Solar
Great example. Your "EER" concept, even if it DID work, has absolutely
nothing to do with the problems facing solar power.
I think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the energy.
Eer would solve that.
Eer would collect diffuse energy, and store it in a nondiffuse manner.feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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Give an example....
Solar
Great example. Your "EER" concept, even if it DID work, has absolutely
nothing to do with the problems facing solar power.
I think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the energy.
Eer would solve that.
No it wouldn't. Or am I misunderstanding EER?
It would be just a cap with high storage capability.I thought it was just an
amazing capacitor and distributed energy gathering.
Eer suggests using about 15 renewable sources. Some are diffuse, some not.The problem with diffuse energy sources is not getting it all in once place.
The problem is getting your potentials big enough to be of practical use in an
efficient way.
True.You are one small step from proposing a perpetual motion machine.
Exactly.The problem is getting your potentials big enough to be of practical use in an
efficient way.
I donno
EER is a perpetual bullshit machine.You are one small step from proposing a perpetual motion machine.
---It would be just a cap with high storage capability.
How big? How heavy? How green?On 30 Jan 2004 01:28:05 GMT, feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
It would be just a cap with high storage capability.
---
Such a device is here now and has been for a long time. It's called a
secondary cell and when two or more of them are connected together the
combination is called a "rechargeable battery".
Over my head.The difference between a secondary cell and a capacitor is that the
secondary cell stores energy when the constituents of the battery are
changed chemically by electrons from the current being forced into the
cell. This happens, for example, when a lead-acid battery is being
charged and the lead sulphate plates and water change into a negative
electrode made of pure lead, a positive electrode made of lead dioxide
and an electrolyte made of sulfuric acid. There is no such mechanism
occurring in a capacitor, and all that happens there is that electrons
are piled onto the dielectric, one on top of another, and with each one
that is added the force that keeps the next one from being added to the
pile increases. So, since it can never "absorb" the number of
electrons a rechargeable battery can, it can never hope to achieve the
same energy storage capability as the battery.
Cutting to the chase, it would seem to be much more sensible, IMO, to
work on rechargeable battery systems with an eye toward vastly improving
their number of charge-discharge cycles than to be tilting at that
unattainable capacitive windmill.
Everything is over your head.Over my head.
How? EER has nothing to do with the energy being "diffuse" orI think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the energy.
Eer would solve that.
What in the hell are you talking about? Either you can deliverNo? The most powerful energy source in the solar system, and we heat our
water
with it?
Nonsense. Nothing you have ever said about EER makesNo it wouldn't. Or am I misunderstanding EER?
Eer would collect diffuse energy, and store it in a nondiffuse manner.
And therefore, NOTHING to do with whether or not aIt would be just a cap with high storage capability.
NOTHING to do with collection.
.....anything, apparently.The problem is getting your potentials big enough to be of practical use
in an
efficient way.
I donno
Eer would collect, combine and store ANY form of energy (as long as it can"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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I think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the energy.
Eer would solve that.
How?
Eer is a way to capture, accumulate and save all this energy in a NONdiffuseEER has nothing to do with the energy being "diffuse" or not,
and doesn't do ANYTHING about the two major problems
with solar power
If you can now power your EV with the solar equipment you have bought, it is- poor conversion efficiency,
Remember, the solar is combined with 15, or so, other renewables, some of whichand the relatively low concentration of available energy in watts/sq. meter
(which
you would call "being diffuse").
ONLY?Your silly "EER" notion is ONLY
a storage system,
Might help for cars!and such already exist and do not address these
problems either.
No? The most powerful energy source in the solar system, and we heat our
water
with it?
What in the hell are you talking about? Either you can deliver
the energy to the grid, or you can't; EER doesn't change
this, as it is merely a way of taking energy OFF the grid and
storing it. Big deal.
No - brilliant, in fact."FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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No it wouldn't. Or am I misunderstanding EER?
Eer would collect diffuse energy, and store it in a nondiffuse manner.
Nonsense.
Nothing you have ever said about EER makes it particularly suited to the
storage of "diffuse" energy;
potential -in fact, it is very POORLY suited to this, since you've already noted that EER
doesn't make sense at all unless the storage can be done at a very high
There are others....there are BIG companies.which is BAD if you're
trying to directly store "diffuse" energy. In short, such energy STILL has to
be collected and made "non-diffuse" through
means that EER (or any other storage method) has absolutely nothing to do
with. The case could be made, in fact, that
battery storage is FAR better suited to solar power than your "EER" notion,
even IF the latter worked, since "battery" -
actually, electrochemical cell - storage is practical at low potentials.
Again, you simply prove that you don't know the first thing about the field in
which you have chosen to make your
nonsensical comments.
It would be just a cap with high storage capability.
NOTHING to do with collection.
And therefore, NOTHING to do with whether or not a given energy source is
"diffuse."
I'm not pretending.So stop pretending that you
have something special to offer in that area.
The problem is getting your potentials big enough to be of practical use
in an
efficient way.
I donno
....anything, apparently.
Only in your own mind. Have you EVER found ANYONEEer would collect diffuse energy, and store it in a nondiffuse manner.
Nonsense.
No - brilliant, in fact.
Precisely - and no storage method (which IS what "EER" would be,Nothing you have ever said about EER makes it particularly suited to the
storage of "diffuse" energy;
It is not the storage - it is the collection of diffuse energy that is the
problem.
In that case, your understanding of capacitive storage is even poorerin fact, it is very POORLY suited to this, since you've already noted
that EER
doesn't make sense at all unless the storage can be done at a very high
potential -
Correction.......I say very clearly in my text that low voltage is
desired.
Must be over one volt, though.
Whose work you also do not understand, and mistakenly believeThere are others....there are BIG companies.
Sure - but note that word "collection." That's where the problemAnd therefore, NOTHING to do with whether or not a given energy source is
"diffuse."
Gee. The collection of diffuse energy, and storing it in a nondiffuse
manner
seems like the MOTHERLOAD, here!
Exactly like a battery, which already does that job more than"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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I think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the
energy.
Eer would solve that.
How?
Eer would collect, combine and store ANY form of energy (as long as it can
produce any amount of electricity)
It would store it in a nondiffuse manner.
But you can't, and the reasons don't have a damned thing to doIf you can now power your EV with the solar equipment you have bought, it
is
much more worthwhile to you.
Which is stupid, right from the start.My silly system only suggests that the same energy-function of these can
now be
replicated with electronics.
Well, smaller, lighter, and more green."FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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I think the main problem with solar is the diffuse nature of the
energy.
Eer would solve that.
How?
Eer would collect, combine and store ANY form of energy (as long as it can
produce any amount of electricity)
It would store it in a nondiffuse manner.
Exactly like a battery,
But, NOT enough to beat the ICE.which already does that job more than
efficiently enough to enable solar, etc., power sources.
THAT is just plain wrong.Conclusion: it is not the storage method that's holding back solar power.
The FIRST thing is what I DO know.....it is the second and third things where ICorrolary: you're an ignorant nutcase who doesn't know the first
thing about what he's trying to talk about.
Not YET.If you can now power your EV with the solar equipment you have bought, it
is much more worthwhile to you.
But you can't,
The reasons have EVERYTHING to do with storage.and the reasons don't have a damned thing to do with the storage system.
You continue to ignore this, in an
obviously desperate struggle to hold on to your apparently "religious"-level
beliefs regarding this stupid "EER" notion.
We shall see.My silly system only suggests that the same energy-function of these can
now be replicated with electronics.
Which is stupid, right from the start.
Yea - you KNOW who."FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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Eer would collect diffuse energy, and store it in a nondiffuse manner.
Nonsense.
No - brilliant, in fact.
Only in your own mind. Have you EVER found ANYONE
else - just ONE person - who judged your ideas to be
"brilliant"?
Nothing you have ever said about EER makes it particularly suited to the
storage of "diffuse" energy;
It is not the storage - it is the collection of diffuse energy that is the
problem.
Precisely - and no storage method (which IS what "EER" would be, after all)
affects that one little bit.
My understanding of existing capacitave storage is ZILCH.in fact, it is very POORLY suited to this, since you've already noted
that EER
doesn't make sense at all unless the storage can be done at a very high
potential -
Correction.......I say very clearly in my text that low voltage is
desired.
Must be over one volt, though.
In that case, your understanding of capacitive storage is even poorer
than I thought - which is very difficult to believe.
We would have to collect it the same way we do now. Those collection devicesThe energy stored in a capacitor is proportional to the capacitance
and the SQUARE of the voltage; therefore, if you really, really want
to get high energy density, you want to increase the voltage to as high
a level as possible (and hence the endless comments that your idea requires
an impossibly strong dielectric, something which at least you've finally
incorporated into your overly-long drivel). Getting significant energy
storage at a potential of just a single volt or so makes your task just
that much harder (or not, really, since what you're describing is already
impossible).
There are others....there are BIG companies.
Whose work you also do not understand, and mistakenly believe
to be somehow related to your crazy notions.
And therefore, NOTHING to do with whether or not a given energy source is
"diffuse."
Gee. The collection of diffuse energy, and storing it in a nondiffuse
manner
seems like the MOTHERLOAD, here!
Sure - but note that word "collection." That's where the problem
lies, not in "storage" - and you have said NOTHING that even
starts to address the problems of collection.