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An energy concept (BRIEF)


Yes, there is a 21st Law of Thermodynamics. That is no knock on Faraday, just
a reference to the 21st century, and the new technology it has brought.

Simply stated, it is, "No energy concept involving renewables shall ever be
considered unless the word 'diffuse' is used, understood, and taken into
consideration."

Faraday could not have seen this coming. In his day, there was not the
multitude of diffuse renewable energy sources available, which can be converted
to electricity.

If human beings are ever to use renewable, natural energy sources, they will
have to take into consideration the diffuse nature of sunlight, wind, wave,
etc. I was actually surprised to find that Faraday, himself, used the word
"diffuse" in his writings. But, this was in reference to the spread of charge
on capacitor plates, and not the UN-concentrated free energy that is available
today for conversion to electricity.

There is NO way around this Law. By that, I mean that there in no way around
solving the "diffuse problem," before we are able to put renewable energy
sources to work in any effective way.



A goal......an idea......a prediction.......energy is easy........ there is no
crises.

We don't need no stinkin' oil.
We don't need no stinkin' batteries.
We don't need no stinkin' internal combustion engine.
We don't need no stinkin' fusion.
We don't need no stinkin' hybrids.
We don't need no stinkin' hydrogen-powered cars.
We don't need no stinkin' ethanol.
We don't need no stinkin' natural gas.
We don't need no stinkin' methane.
We don't even need no stinkin' efficiency.
We don't even need no stinkin' conservation.

Did I miss anything?

Yes - I missed a LOT!

But, whatever I missed, we do not need it.

WE JUST DO NOT NEED THEM Or more correctly, we would not need them if EER
were brought about.

Or, even more correctly, some could be used, some not. We would have the
luxury of choice, while at the same time powering our EV's with them. All of
them. Any of them. As long as they are able to generate any amount of
electricity.

Sorry to be so crude, but it is all true, and this effort of mine is becoming
laborious.

To those who have read this before, and may have rejected it out of hand, let
me say that it is my strong belief that two major companies may be engaged in
pretty much the basic idea presented here. They have patents - I do not. In no
way do I - nor will I - attempt to claim any right whatsoever to this idea -
even though all my writing on it came from my own independent thinking for over
12 years. I wish them well. But, in case I am wrong about that effort being
made, I surely wish some interested party would help me connect this to the
people in government who say they want an energy solution. What they are
looking for is contained on this letter. I am THAT confident.

Note: I can see EER powering an automobile. That is almost a lock, in my mind.
Further applications are, perhaps, a little harder to deal with. Once a car
IS powered by EER, then all the entrepreneurs will take the rest to the logical
conclusion.


EER in Brief


Electronic Electricity Repository (EER) is merely a concept at this time. There
is no business, no patent, and no money involved with this.

This involves solid state capacitors as a usable energy storage device for
electric vehicles, and other items. Conventional wisdom limits capacitors to
power surges, and the like. The full text of this concept will suggest a way to
make them fully competitive with the internal combustion engine, while not
violating the laws of energy density.

The easiest way to explain it is to use an electric vehicle as an
example. To power an EV with EER, an array of electronic devices --
perhaps solid-state capacitors, perhaps another device -- would
contain the electrical charge accumulated from a variety of sources
of electricity. Renewable energy sources are suggested, but *any*
source of electricity would work. With the questionable future of
battery-powered EV's, and fusion as an energy source, and the political debate
about fossil fuels, there are strong reasons to take a look at EER.

In fairness, many say it cannot be done. But, perhaps another war
-- or avoiding one -- could put the right minds to work on this concept. It
*would* provide a way to be independent of foreign
oil, while providing a structure for the transition to renewable forms
of energy to power EV's - or any other device powered by electricity.

This is merely a shell of an idea, but perhaps some further thought could help
bring it about.

Frank Lincoln....72430,2407......eerguy9@cs.com
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A TRIP TO THE STORE IN AN EER POWERED EV

Let's suppose that the EER concept is fully developed, and built
into an electric vehicle. Let's also suppose that the newest and best
technological devices -- some of which are now being used in EV's - are
integrated into the vehicle's design. What follows is a description
of what might possibly have happened during an everyday trip to the store
in such a vehicle. (This assumes the use of an *advanced* solid-state
capacitor).
Ms. Jones notices her "fuel gauge" as she starts her vehicle; it
tells her that her microchip capacitor battery is 85% full. This means
that of the vast number of microchip capacitors in her "battery", 85% are
charged with their very small electric capacitance.
She proceeds to the store, and returns home -- a quarter mile
trip. As she pulls in her driveway, she looks again at her gauge. It
reads 84%. She thinks that she used only 1% of her battery capacity for
her trip.
But, she is wrong.
She used 10% of her available charged capacitors for the quarter
mile trip. So, why didn't her gauge read 75% when she returned?
There were several devices built into her vehicle which were
replenishing used capacitors, almost as fast as she was using them. (All
figures below are guesses -- just to make the point.)

1. The advanced solar panel on the roof of her vehicle was, as
always during sunlight, continuously recharging at a slow, but
steady rate. Because she had happened to drive and park in
the sunlight, the solar panel recharged 5% of her capacitors.
2. The air scoops arranged in her vehicle's design -- although
accounting for some drag -- were directing the air through
small dynamos, which recharged another 2%.
3. The regenerative brakes on all four wheels replenished another
2% of the capacitors.

So, she did, in fact, use 10% of the available capacitor charges,
but 9% were replaced by the activity of her trip.
This is nothing like perpetual motion; it is merely taking
advantage of the natural surrounding energy to replenish the energy
spent on the trip.
It is even conceivable that her "fuel gauge" might have read a
higher percentage upon her return; a shorter trip on a windier and
sunnier day, in a more sunlit route and parking spot, and many more
occasions to use the brakes, might have made that possible. The Second
Law of Thermodynamics is not violated, because energy from outside the
vehicle was being absorbed along the way.
It is noted that a battery-powered EV could have done much the
same, but the weight difference would have changed the percentages, so
as to defeat the purpose.
Frank Lincoln CS# 72430,2407
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It is understood that high energy density is something that has been sought for
many years -- the concept is nothing new. What is suggested here is the
possibility that modern technology may now be in the position to actually
attain it -- to a degree that could combine the many energy sources (new and
old) into a common pool.


GIVEN:
- Trench capacitors, at the present time, have nowhere near the capability to
deal with the degree of energy that would be required in Electronic Electricity
Repository.
- The area of the plates in a trench capacitor will, for the most part,
determine the capacitance -- not exclusively, but this is the factor that is
dealt with here as having the most potential for improvement. It is assumed
that progress in the other factors -- dielectric strength, dielectric
composition, etc., will continue, and will accommodate the supposition of
surface area increase made here.

HYPOTHESIS:
- The surface area of a trench capacitor plate can be greatly increased without
increasing the perimeter, or the space required to store the capacitor.
- Etching a groove on the plate surface will do this, to a small degree, and it
is done, to some extent, today. What is surmised, here, is that, as the
technology allows, many cross-grooves could be etched *within* the first
groove. Then, with increasing precision, these cross-grooves could, in turn, be
cross-grooved. And, then those cross-grooves cross-grooved. Each successive
cross-grooving would be progressively smaller - magnitudes smaller. This could
be repeated until the molecular level was reached -- each time increasing the
surface area of the plate, and thus the capacitance. An inexact estimate of the
number of times it could be repeated is 26. It is surmised that each groove,
cross-groove, and, etc., would be matched by a ridge, a cross-ridge, and, etc.,
on the opposite plate, with corresponding shapes for the dielectric. The
resulting configuration would yield a perfectly matching set of plates
(sandwiching an appropriately shaped, and expectedly advanced dielectric). Such
a configuration and material composition may not be possible at this time, but
the direction of efforts in their respective technologies may lead to their
development in the very near future. This concept is put forth in
*anticipation* of those developments.
- In theory, each successive etching would substantially increase the area of
the plates, and thus the capacitance *without increasing their size*, their
perimeter, or the volume of space needed for them. Again, the only barrier
seems to be at reaching the molecular level, after each groove is re-grooved,
perpendicularly, and then THAT groove is re-grooved, etc. This would take
advantage of all the "inner space" available between the plate surface, and the
molecular level. (Understand that in place of "etching", Scanning Tunneling
Microscope Technology might be applied -- or even nanotechnology, if that ever
becomes reality. The point is to configure the grooves -- by whatever method.)

BENEFITS:
- An almost endless storage system for electricity.
- A way to store electricity from *any* source, from renewables to a wall
socket.
- A possible solution to the search for a better power plant for electric
vehicles.
- A structure within which to make the conversion from fossil fuels to
renewables.
- A way to accumulate the "trickle" of the many forms of renewable energy, and
combine and store them in a practical way; a way that could give strength to
the many "weak" and diffuse renewable energy sources.
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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An energy concept (BRIEF)

Yes, there is a 21st Law of Thermodynamics. That is no knock on Faraday,
just
a reference to the 21st century, and the new technology it has brought.

Simply stated, it is, "No energy concept involving renewables shall ever
be
considered unless the word 'diffuse' is used, understood, and taken into
consideration."
Oh I think we should consider all forms of renewable energy not just
"diffuse" ones.
 
An idiotic energy concept (which we wish could actually be BRIEF)

No, Virginia, there is no 21st Law of Thermodynamics, any more
than there is a Santa Claus or a workable concept called "EER."
Yes, that's a knock on Frank, who has yet to catch up with thejust
21st century, and the understanding of basic physics that we've
had for over 100 years now. it has brought.

Simply stated, Frank's basic misunderstanding is, "No energy concept
involving capacitance shall ever be proposed by me, unless the words
'completely unworkable' can be appropriately used, understood, and
taken into consideration with respect to this concept, by anyone who
actually DOES know what they're talking about."

Frank could have seen this coming. In his day, which apparently is
somewhere in the Dark Ages, we knew absolutely nothing about
physics, and particularly electrostatics. Today, of course, there are
a multitude of diffuse renewable informations sources available, which
can be converted to actual knowledge and understanding by anyone
willing to take even a few moments to actually consider them.

If human beings are ever to use renewable, natural energy sources, they will
have to take into consideration the highly diffuse nature of the actual
level
of understanding on the part of many crackpots who put forth what they
think are original ideas, but which in reality violate every principle of
high-
school physics. I was actually surprised to find that Frank, himself, used
the
word "diffuse" in his writings, as I would not have expected this level of
spelling
competence based on his other works. But, when you consider that this is
coming from a person who thinks that a phrase like "the UN-concentrated free
energy that is available today for conversion to electricity" actually makes
sense, you can readily understand my amazement.


There is NO way around the Laws of Physics. By that, though, I mean that
there is still no way around solving the "Frank problem," before we are
could
somehow get him to understand the magnitude of the misunderstanding that
he constantly expresses here.

But when you live in this sort of dream state, you're able to say things
like
"A goal......an idea......a prediction.......energy is easy........ there is
no
crises" and somehow manage to keep a straight face. In Frank's view of
the world,

We don't need to understand oil.
We don't need to understand batteries.
We don't need to understand the internal combustion engine.
We don't need to understand fusion.
We don't need to understand hybrids.
And we certainly don't need to understand the first thing about
capacitive storage before we write thousands of words of absolute
gibberish on the subject.

But did Frank miss anything?

Yes - he missed a LOT! Specifically, everything that was ever
taught about physics and electronics from roughly grade school on.

But, of course, whatever Frank missed, he does not need it; he'll keep on
writing anyway.

With respect to Frank's ravings, of course, WE JUST DO NOT NEED THEM
Or more correctly, we would not need them if the National Lampoon were
still publishing decent humor, as it was in its heyday a lot funnier than
Frank
even at his best.

Or, even more correctly, some could be used, some not. We would have the
luxury of choice, such as deciding whether to print out his book-length
epistles and using them for either fish wrapping or the lining of bird
cages.
Or possibly even as the fuel source for a good-sized generating plant All
of
them. Any of them. As long as they are able to generate any amount of
electricity.

Sorry to be so crude, but it is all true, and this effort of mine is
becoming
laborious.

To those who have read Frank before, and may have rejected him out of hand,
let
me say that it is my strong belief that two major loony bins may be engaged
in
competing for the rights to lock him away - so enjoy this nut while you can!
 
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)
Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.


Tim
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"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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An energy concept (BRIEF)

Yes, there is a 21st Law of Thermodynamics. That is no knock on Faraday,
just
a reference to the 21st century, and the new technology it has brought.

Simply stated, it is, "No energy concept involving renewables shall ever
be
considered unless the word 'diffuse' is used, understood, and taken into
consideration."

Oh I think we should consider all forms of renewable energy not just
"diffuse" ones.
Naturally.

The only necessity is that it can produce any amount of electricity - no matter
how small or diffuse.

The diffuse forms of energy would have a chance of being converted into a
nondiffuse form, and combined with all the others.


Frank
 
An idiotic energy concept (which we wish could actually be BRIEF)

No, Virginia, there is no 21st Law of Thermodynamics, any more
than there is a Santa Claus or a workable concept called "EER."
Yes, that's a knock on Frank, who has yet to catch up with thejust
21st century, and the understanding of basic physics that we've
had for over 100 years now. it has brought.

Simply stated, Frank's basic misunderstanding is, "No energy concept
involving capacitance shall ever be proposed by me, unless the words
'completely unworkable' can be appropriately used, understood, and
taken into consideration with respect to this concept, by anyone who
actually DOES know what they're talking about."

Frank could have seen this coming. In his day, which apparently is
somewhere in the Dark Ages, we knew absolutely nothing about
physics, and particularly electrostatics. Today, of course, there are
a multitude of diffuse renewable informations sources available, which
can be converted to actual knowledge and understanding by anyone
willing to take even a few moments to actually consider them.

If human beings are ever to use renewable, natural energy sources, they will
have to take into consideration the highly diffuse nature of the actual
level
of understanding on the part of many crackpots who put forth what they
think are original ideas, but which in reality violate every principle of
high-
school physics. I was actually surprised to find that Frank, himself, used
the
word "diffuse" in his writings, as I would not have expected this level of
spelling
competence based on his other works. But, when you consider that this is
coming from a person who thinks that a phrase like "the UN-concentrated free
energy that is available today for conversion to electricity" actually makes
sense, you can readily understand my amazement.


There is NO way around the Laws of Physics. By that, though, I mean that
there is still no way around solving the "Frank problem," before we are
could
somehow get him to understand the magnitude of the misunderstanding that
he constantly expresses here.

But when you live in this sort of dream state, you're able to say things
like
"A goal......an idea......a prediction.......energy is easy........ there is
no
crises" and somehow manage to keep a straight face. In Frank's view of
the world,

We don't need to understand oil.
We don't need to understand batteries.
We don't need to understand the internal combustion engine.
We don't need to understand fusion.
We don't need to understand hybrids.
And we certainly don't need to understand the first thing about
capacitive storage before we write thousands of words of absolute
gibberish on the subject.

But did Frank miss anything?

Yes - he missed a LOT! Specifically, everything that was ever
taught about physics and electronics from roughly grade school on.

But, of course, whatever Frank missed, he does not need it; he'll keep on
writing anyway.

With respect to Frank's ravings, of course, WE JUST DO NOT NEED THEM
Or more correctly, we would not need them if the National Lampoon were
still publishing decent humor, as it was in its heyday a lot funnier than
Frank
even at his best.

Or, even more correctly, some could be used, some not. We would have the
luxury of choice, such as deciding whether to print out his book-length
epistles and using them for either fish wrapping or the lining of bird
cages.
Or possibly even as the fuel source for a good-sized generating plant All
of
them. Any of them. As long as they are able to generate any amount of
electricity.

Sorry to be so crude, but it is all true, and this effort of mine is
becoming
laborious.

To those who have read Frank before, and may have rejected him out of hand,
let
me say that it is my strong belief that two major loony bins may be engaged
in
competing for the rights to lock him away - so enjoy this nut while you can!
Real funny, REAL funny.

Why not try that one on Maxwell Technologies, with their Power Cache - which is
pretty close to eer.

I don't want to call you an asshole or anything like that.

I will just remember you as a mindless deaf man, marching to a long-gone beat.


Frank
 
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)

Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.
Gee - I am just trying to allert you to what is coming.

Like a friggen FREIGHT-TRAIN!

*I* am not going to change a damn thing.

BUT, I am also not wasting my time looking for new sources of energy.

A lot of people in here ARE!

WE DON'T *NEED* NO STINKIN' OIL!!!


Frank
 
FEerguy9 wrote:
WE DON'T *NEED* NO STINKIN' OIL!!!

Frank

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We now return you to our normally scheduled programming.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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The diffuse forms of energy would have a chance of being converted into a
nondiffuse form, and combined with all the others.
Unfortunately, you have yet to show what a "diffuse form
of energy" IS in any meaningful way. "Energy" in general
works on DIFFERENCES - you have big pile of heat
or gravitational potential or charge or whatever over HERE,
and none over THERE, and you drive things by moving
whatever the thing is from one to the other. A "diffuse energy
source," without further clarification as to what that might mean,
is pretty much a contradiction in terms. See "entropy" for more
info...

Bob M.
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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Why not try that one on Maxwell Technologies, with their Power Cache -
which is
pretty close to eer.
Their products and technologies might be seen as "pretty close
to eer" only by someone such as yourself, who does not really
understand anything about either.

Maxwell is NOT making any such ludicrous claims about their
products as you are here, and clearly are not proposing anything
that violates basic physics; further, they give every appearance of
actually understanding the subject and having the ability to apply
this understanding in practical products. On all these points, they
are clearly quite far apart from you and "eer".

I don't want to call you an asshole or anything like that.
Go ahead; I think there's little question at this point as to which of
us has more credibility here, so I am not at all concerned about
anything you might call me. Hell, I've been called an asshole by
far more competent people than you, and at times have proudly
accepted the accolade! :)

I will just remember you as a mindless deaf man, marching to a long-gone
beat.

Frank, to be considered as such by one such as you is merely
a sign that I must be doing SOMETHING right...

Bob M.
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)

Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.

Gee - I am just trying to allert you to what is coming.
And we put just about as much stock in your "allerts" as
we do those of your compatriots who are warning us about
the imminent takeover of the Earth by hostile ETs.

Like a friggen FREIGHT-TRAIN!
One which was derailed long ago, and is sitting rusting
by the side of the track. Not even a main line, either...


*I* am not going to change a damn thing.
Finally, something with which I can agree.


BUT, I am also not wasting my time looking for new sources of energy.
Somehow, I don't see your non-participation in that effort
as a great loss.

A lot of people in here ARE!
Yes, the difference being that THEY know what they're
doing.

Bob M.
 
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)

Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.

Gee - I am just trying to allert you to what is coming.

Like a friggen FREIGHT-TRAIN!
Yeah, right. In the historical context the perhaps the inevitable
change to renewable energy sources (not actually renewable, but based
on the energy of our local star, if you want to be anal about it [no,
I don't want to get into the structure of the universe to take this
argument further!]) will be rapid, but as far as those of us who
expect to be alive during the transition it will be reasonably slow.
Repeated posts to usenet will not change that, nor will they prepare
me, or anyone else, for the coming changes.

*I* am not going to change a damn thing.
So shut the fuck up.

BUT, I am also not wasting my time looking for new sources of energy.
You're not doing anything as remotely useful as looking for new
sources of energy. You just waste bandwidth.

There are people working on renewable energy sources and their
distribution and storage. It is discussed in governments throughout
the world. The change is already happening. It's not happening in the
way you think because a) you have no idea what the state-of-the-art is
in the technologies you require to fulfill your dream and b) you have
no idea of the economics involved in implementing those dreams.

Try looking for better ways to harness or store energy. That would be
useful. I bet you $10,000 you can't invent a better capacitor, solar
panel, wind turbine or wave generator in the next year. If you can't
do either you're wasting your time. You are wasting your time.

A lot of people in here ARE!

WE DON'T *NEED* NO STINKIN' OIL!!!
Oil isn't new. I don't get your point.


Tim
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"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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The diffuse forms of energy would have a chance of being converted into a
nondiffuse form, and combined with all the others.

Unfortunately, you have yet to show what a "diffuse form
of energy" IS in any meaningful way. "Energy" in general
works on DIFFERENCES - you have big pile of heat
or gravitational potential or charge or whatever over HERE,
and none over THERE, and you drive things by moving
whatever the thing is from one to the other. A "diffuse energy
source," without further clarification as to what that might mean,
is pretty much a contradiction in terms. See "entropy" for more
info...
I just mean "spread-out".

Strong, but not concentrated.


Frank
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20040122055458.22897.00000609@mb-m04.news.cs.com...

feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)

Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.

Gee - I am just trying to allert you to what is coming.

And we put just about as much stock in your "allerts" as
we do those of your compatriots who are warning us about
the imminent takeover of the Earth by hostile ETs.


Like a friggen FREIGHT-TRAIN!


One which was derailed long ago, and is sitting rusting
by the side of the track. Not even a main line, either...


*I* am not going to change a damn thing.

Finally, something with which I can agree.


BUT, I am also not wasting my time looking for new sources of energy.

Somehow, I don't see your non-participation in that effort
as a great loss.

A lot of people in here ARE!

Yes, the difference being that THEY know what they're
doing.
If THEY are trying to solve the energy problem by looking for new sources of
energy, then I question that.


Frank
 
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
feerguy9@cs.com (FEerguy9) wrote:
An energy concept (BRIEF)

Seriously, why do you continue to post this?

If you're trying to change the world you're going about it the wrong
way and wasting your time.

Gee - I am just trying to allert you to what is coming.

Like a friggen FREIGHT-TRAIN!

Yeah, right. In the historical context the perhaps the inevitable
change to renewable energy sources (not actually renewable, but based
on the energy of our local star, if you want to be anal about it [no,
I don't want to get into the structure of the universe to take this
argument further!]) will be rapid, but as far as those of us who
expect to be alive during the transition it will be reasonably slow.
Repeated posts to usenet will not change that, nor will they prepare
me, or anyone else, for the coming changes.

*I* am not going to change a damn thing.

So shut the fuck up.

BUT, I am also not wasting my time looking for new sources of energy.

You're not doing anything as remotely useful as looking for new
sources of energy.
THERE ya GO!!

Looking for new sources of energy is EXACTLY what we do NOT need to be doing!

I actually fear for the future, with people like you thinking that.



You just waste bandwidth.

There are people working on renewable energy sources and their
distribution and storage. It is discussed in governments throughout
the world. The change is already happening. It's not happening in the
way you think because a) you have no idea what the state-of-the-art is
in the technologies you require to fulfill your dream and b) you have
no idea of the economics involved in implementing those dreams.

Try looking for better ways to harness or store energy. That would be
useful. I bet you $10,000 you can't invent a better capacitor,
You are ON!

THAT is what will happen - but not by me.


solar panel, wind turbine or wave generator in the next year. If you can't
do either you're wasting your time. You are wasting your time.

A lot of people in here ARE!

WE DON'T *NEED* NO STINKIN' OIL!!!

Oil isn't new. I don't get your point.
My point is this......

We CAN replace the energy function of coal and oil - with electronics.


Frank
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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I just mean "spread-out".

Strong, but not concentrated.
Give an example....


Bob M.
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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If THEY are trying to solve the energy problem by looking for new sources
of
energy, then I question that.
The point being, you have shown absolutely no evidence of
any background or knowledge that would qualify you to
question that in the first place.

Bob M.
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
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I just mean "spread-out".

Strong, but not concentrated.

Give an example....
Solar


Frank
 
"FEerguy9" <feerguy9@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20040124010908.24678.00000705@mb-m16.news.cs.com...
If THEY are trying to solve the energy problem by looking for new sources
of
energy, then I question that.

The point being, you have shown absolutely no evidence of any background or
knowledge that would qualify you to
question that in the first place.
Common sense.


Frank
 

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