DSE dumbing down - ok, so it's old news, but *really*!!!

[Ken Taylor]

"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
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Alan Rutlidge wrote:

I once read an article published by a casual electronics TAFE lecturer.
Taking into account he doesn't get paid for preparation time, research,
updating lecture notes, photo-copying etc he worked out that he'd be
making
just a much money as a trolley boy rounding up shopping trollies at the
local shopping centre and with a lot less grief. And people wonder why
I
can't be bothered doing the TAFE lecture circuit anymore.

Cheers,
Alan



Casual rates at Uni: $28/hr for practicals, $57/hr for tutorials, $78/hr
for
lecturing, $156/hr if you write the notes yourself.

Doesn't appear to have changed much, if at all, since when I did it about 6
years ago. Okay for putting bread on the table until they cut me down to 3
hours a week then it was off to work....

Ken

 

[The Real Andy]

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 00:59:06 +1000, "Joe G \(Home\)"
<joe.g@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Say for example

DSE sell 1 Xtal at $1 and make 50c proffit (50%)

DSE Sell 1 Radio at $100 and $10 proffit (10%)

IF you owned the DSE store would you want $10 or 50c in your pocket.....
(less GST of course).

So to make more dollars in your pocket it's quite hard work selling small
qty of components,
BUT sell a few Radio's ....

Would you encourage your staff to sell Xtals or Radios?

If a customer wants 1000 Xtals - he wont pay $1 each ' he/she will shop
around.




Have you ever gone in to a supermarket for milk and come out with lots more?

JG

Well I'll be fucked, someone with some concept of reality. Do you
think DSE actually gives a fuck about a dead hobbiest market that
probably accounts for $100/store/month in sales?

 

[The Real Andy]

On 5 Oct 2005 20:07:59 -0700, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com>
wrote:
<snip>

I've always wondered if the guy who comes in to water and trim the
indoor office plants has a better and higher paying job than being an
electronics design engineer?

I swore I would never do software whilst I was doing hardware. Now I
do software I swear I will never do hardware. Do yourslef a favour
Dave, learn C# or Java.

Jim's mowing franchise anyone?

3 month contracts @ $60-70/hour for an entry level professional
programmer anyone?

Dave

 

[Mark Harriss]

The Real Andy wrote:

3 month contracts @ $60-70/hour for an entry level professional
programmer anyone?


Dave

Cool! where can I get one of those?.

 

[David L. Jones]

The Real Andy wrote:

On 5 Oct 2005 20:07:59 -0700, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com
wrote:
snip

I've always wondered if the guy who comes in to water and trim the
indoor office plants has a better and higher paying job than being an
electronics design engineer?

I swore I would never do software whilst I was doing hardware. Now I
do software I swear I will never do hardware. Do yourslef a favour
Dave, learn C# or Java.

I'm practically a full-time Labwindows/CVI programmer at the moment.
Software on its own doesn't really do it for me I'm afraid.

Jim's mowing franchise anyone?

3 month contracts @ $60-70/hour for an entry level professional
programmer anyone?

You CAN get good money for electronics design, but as always, you have
to be in the right place at the right time.
Contract work sucks, too much pressure, been there, done that. More to
life than working the hours.

I do electronics because I enjoy it, sad I know, one day I'll come to
my senses :->

Dave

 

[Ken Taylor]

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Real Andy wrote:
On 5 Oct 2005 20:07:59 -0700, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com
wrote:
snip

I've always wondered if the guy who comes in to water and trim the
indoor office plants has a better and higher paying job than being an
electronics design engineer?

I swore I would never do software whilst I was doing hardware. Now I
do software I swear I will never do hardware. Do yourslef a favour
Dave, learn C# or Java.

I'm practically a full-time Labwindows/CVI programmer at the moment.
Software on its own doesn't really do it for me I'm afraid.

Jim's mowing franchise anyone?

3 month contracts @ $60-70/hour for an entry level professional
programmer anyone?

You CAN get good money for electronics design, but as always, you have
to be in the right place at the right time.
Contract work sucks, too much pressure, been there, done that. More to
life than working the hours.

I do electronics because I enjoy it, sad I know, one day I'll come to
my senses :-

Dave

I hope not Dave! I still get to dabble in design and prototyping but play
with satellite stuff these days - way cool!

Ken

 

[Peter Parker]

"Joe G (Home)" <joe.g@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Would you encourage your staff to sell Xtals or Radios?

Actually, neither ; )

Instead I'd go for cables, audio adapters, and cordless phone batteries.

Eg: 1 x $30 phone extension lead = $20 profit
1 x $300 TV (discounted) = $20 profit

Peter

 

[Lord-Data]

"Peter Parker" <parkerp@NOSPAMalphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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"Joe G (Home)" <joe.g@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Would you encourage your staff to sell Xtals or Radios?

Actually, neither ; )

Instead I'd go for cables, audio adapters, and cordless phone batteries.

Eg: 1 x $30 phone extension lead = $20 profit
1 x $300 TV (discounted) = $20 profit

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote .. the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances .. customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins

Peter

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

"Lord-Data" wrote

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote .. the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances .. customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins



******* At last,recognition of what really happens in a Capitalist system!!!
Note the use of the words,"sales person",now that's the way to go!!!!

Brian Goldsmith.

 

[Mr.T]

"Peter Parker" <parkerp@NOSPAMalphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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Instead I'd go for cables, audio adapters, and cordless phone batteries.

Eg: 1 x $30 phone extension lead = $20 profit

Probably more. The Warehouse(tm) can sell them for $5 and still make a
profit.

1 x $300 TV (discounted) = $20 profit

More like $100 gross profit. Their overheads are high though.

MrT.

 

[Mr.T]

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I've always wondered if the guy who comes in to water and trim the
indoor office plants has a better and higher paying job than being an
electronics design engineer?

Most probably.

Jim's mowing franchise anyone?

Yes, selling franchises is HIGHLY profitable. He even has Jim's Antennas,
Jim's fencing, Jims dog wash etc. etc. etc ........

It's a LONG time since he mowed lawns

MrT.

 

[Peter Parker]

"Lord-Data" <data@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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....

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote ..
the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances .. customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any
extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins

Yep. And don't forget the extended warranty ; )

I've wondered why some competitors have pursued a 'minimal range' model and
don't carry many compact but high-profit accessories.

Cordless phone batteries is one example; DSE must almost have that market to
itself; not due to price, but because of its big range).

 

[Mr.T]

"Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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Someone probably tried to sue them. That usually stops people giving free
advice pretty quick smart.

Well this little bit of advice landed in my mailbox the other day from a
local computer shop. It reads -

"Always double check with your salesperson when purchasing a system in
parts. Make sure that all components are compatible with each other, eg.

SATA, PATA, DDR1 and DDR2. Majority of new >motherboards require the user to
have SATA rather than PATA. A lot of products are returned due to them being
incompatible with each other."

Sensible advice, but could they be sued for it?

Of course. You can be sued for anything. Whether or not they would win is a
different matter.
Even the shops who win are usually wary of repeating the process
unnecessarily.
However in the above case, they are trying to limit the number of returns,
so the risk/benefit would appear to be on the side of providing the advice.

MrT.

 

[John]

Speaking of DSE has anyone seen the new TV ads asking
"where were those smart kids we used to know?"

It really felt like someone was reading this thread

 

[Martin]

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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Speaking of DSE has anyone seen the new TV ads asking
"where were those smart kids we used to know?"

It really felt like someone was reading this thread

Yeah, when they said they were working for them I almost fell of my chair
laughing! The "smart kids" left DSE long ago to be replaced by the typical
"check out kid" you come to expect at Woolies..

Although I must say it has created a whole new past time for those of us
that do know what we're talking about. Some of the explanations they give
customers are just so ridiculous that you just can't help but step in and
make them look like the morons they are! Christ - if you don't know then
just say so (or actually find out) instead of heading off on some wild
tangent leading the poor customer on some fantasy journey into electronics
"La La Land"....

Remember one "smart kid" one day having an argument with 2 amateur radio
operators telling them that you can't build your own Field Strength meter.
Funny how hams have been building those for years hey!

 

[John]

Martin wrote:

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:434BC98E.3FB0A699@internode.on.net...
Speaking of DSE has anyone seen the new TV ads asking
"where were those smart kids we used to know?"

It really felt like someone was reading this thread

Yeah, when they said they were working for them I almost fell of my chair
laughing! The "smart kids" left DSE long ago to be replaced by the typical
"check out kid" you come to expect at Woolies..

Although I must say it has created a whole new past time for those of us
that do know what we're talking about. Some of the explanations they give
customers are just so ridiculous that you just can't help but step in and
make them look like the morons they are! Christ - if you don't know then
just say so (or actually find out) instead of heading off on some wild
tangent leading the poor customer on some fantasy journey into electronics
"La La Land"....

Remember one "smart kid" one day having an argument with 2 amateur radio
operators telling them that you can't build your own Field Strength meter.
Funny how hams have been building those for years hey!

Oh that's priceless......... I'm framing this

 

[Bazil]

Martin wrote:

Remember one "smart kid" one day having an argument with 2 amateur radio
operators telling them that you can't build your own Field Strength meter.
Funny how hams have been building those for years hey!

My funny one was in Hardly Normal buying an RJ-11 cable for a modem.

The dude said it probably wasn't the right one and when asked why, he
said it needed the bigger connectors like a network cable. To which I
replied no, this is the one. Annoyed that he was wrong, he said well it
still wont work because you need a cross over and that is not a
crossover. At which point some guy behind me burst out laughing. I just
paid my money and left the dickhead to suffer.

Baz

 

[Lord-Data]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospam.echo1.com.au> wrote in message
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"Lord-Data" wrote

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote .. the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances .. customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any
extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins



******* At last,recognition of what really happens in a Capitalist
system!!!
Note the use of the words,"sales person",now that's the way to go!!!!

Could be because I work in retail

Brian Goldsmith.

 

[T.T.]

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"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospam.echo1.com.au> wrote in message
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"Lord-Data" wrote

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote ..
the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances ..
customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any
extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins



******* At last,recognition of what really happens in a Capitalist
system!!!
Note the use of the words,"sales person",now that's the way to go!!!!


Could be because I work in retail



Brian Goldsmith.



I thought I would post one in praise of DSE. I went into our local branch,

enquiring after a fairly trivial capacitor, or something. , and the counter
guy looked at his screen, and said, "You 're in luck. We have just two
left." We went to one of those carousels made up of little drawers, and lo,
in one of those neatly-labeled drawers, there were two left.
A word of caution: it wasn't a real Dick Smith, it was a sort of
country-town music store with one end dedicated to DSE stuff.

 

[T.T.]

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"Lord-Data" wrote

Buy 1x TV, also buy:
Antenna, Surge Protector, Power Board, RF Lead, Universal Remote ..
the
TV leads to a lot of onsell opportunities, even upsell chances ..
customer
comes in for discounted $300 TV, ends up buying $500 not-so-discounted
TV
because sales person upsells em to it on features/benifits .. plus any
extra
onsold extras such as cables, etc, with high margins



******* At last,recognition of what really happens in a Capitalist
system!!!
Note the use of the words,"sales person",now that's the way to go!!!!


Could be because I work in retail



Brian Goldsmith.



I thought I would post one in praise of DSE. I went into our local branch,
enquiring after a fairly trivial capacitor, or something. , and the
counter guy looked at his screen, and said, "You 're in luck. We have just
two left." We went to one of those carousels made up of little drawers,
and lo, in one of those neatly-labeled drawers, there were two left.
A word of caution: it wasn't a real Dick Smith, it was a sort of
country-town music store with one end dedicated to DSE stuff.

The plot thickens. It seems that DSE has thoroughly screwed these people.
After years of doing all the work, and giving DSE a respected presence in
the town, they now find that DSE has opened a shop DIRECTLY opposite them.