Drone Attack

On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 5:40:28 PM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:29:44 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 2:49:42 PM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:01:02 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:01:43 AM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 4:30:13 PM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 9:59:25 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 07:01:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

trader4@optonline.net wrote in
news:f2c0a22c-cdfe-41cf-a4a3-a0bfa4d66257@googlegroups.com:

snip

One of our more obvious idiotic right-wingers agrees with John Larkin expressing a favourite right-wing misconception.

No misconceptions, you just ignore the facts, the results, what actually
happened in places like Iraq, Syria, Iran and Libya.

No. You are ignoring the fact that these were popular uprisings, not engineered by any foreign power.

You are ignoring that when major powers encourage them, it gets noticed
and helps.

And your evidence for the claim that the major power helped the uprisings is?

They bombed the Libyan govt military, fool.

They bombed the Libyan government military after the up-risings were well established.

That wasn't helping the up-risings get started - fool - but rather suppressing the particularly murderous reactions of the Libyan government to the up-risings.

<snipped the rest of the uncomprehending idiocy>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 5:40:08 PM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:37:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 2:49:51 PM UTC+2, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 11:16:55 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
trader4@optonline.net wrote in
news:eb9485ab-0611-4616-83f9-49f435fb4314@googlegroups.com:

<snip>

Look up the definition of "if"? Apparently Obama, Kerry, the UN believed
he could have developed nukes, they were hell bent on getting him to stop.
And if NK, one of the most backward, depressed, isolated countries on the
planet can get them, why not Libya. Pakistan has them, are Pakistan and
NK so greatly advanced compared to Libya?

Wrong, always wrong.

Says the mindless idiot.

Population of Pakistan - 197 million. They got nuclear weapons quite a while ago.

Population of North Korea - 25.47 million. The entire country is poor and depressed because a lot of their GNP has been devoted to getting nuclear weapons.

Population of Libya - 6.375 million. They weren't in the hunt - Gaddafi did have oil money, but nobody would have trusted the guy with nuclear weapons.

Population of Israel, 8 mil. Doh! There goes another dopey argument.

Israel had two unique advantages - the Jewish lobby in the US, and all the Jewish physicists that Hitler persuaded to move to the US in the 1930's, where they spent the next ten years developing the US atomic bomb, who moved to Israel when it became the Jewish homeland after 1948.

It does help to learn a little history before you try to label an argument "dopey". It's hard to distinbguish between ignorance and stupidity, and you exhibit both.

And here is some of what Libya was doing to develop nuclear weapons,
including getting help from the infamous A Q Khan. I should add you to
the list of wrong, always wrong.

https://www.nti.org/learn/countries/libya/nuclear/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan

He's an uranium enrichment expert, and could have helped Libya to set up gas centrifuges to get urananium with a high enough U-235 content to makes.

In other words he could have told the Libyas how to spend millions on setting up a big enough array of gas centrifuges to eventually generate enough enriched uranium to make bombs.

Libya would still have had to invest a bundle on the centrifuges, and the generating stations to provide the power that they need.

And that's just for the uranium.

He could have told them what to do, but it isn't just how to wave a magic wand.

<snipped long exposition - clearly imperfectly understood - of what he did do to help>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 7:11:05 PM UTC+2, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 08:40:24 -0700, trader4 wrote:

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:29:44 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

Who? Where? Post a link to this implausible claim.

Why do you just spout ignorance instead of following what is actually
going on?

Sloman will always use this tactic when he knows he's lost the argument:
demand his interlocutor post proof of an assertion - then invariably
disparage the source of that evidence.

That's your experience, because your sources are just as bad as Trader4's.

So do yourself a favour and KF the
fool already, because you'll *never* prove anything to his satisfaction.

Idiots like him and you do insist on trying to "prove" nonsensical assertions.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 2:27:01 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
As I've said before, unless you specifically enjoy arguing for the sake
of it,...

Isn't that pretty much everyone in this thread???

--

Rick C.

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Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in
news:qfautg$qo6$13@dont-email.me:

2) He's totally impervious to all reason.

3) He's ignorant and extremely ill-informed.

4) He is, at his core, downright Evil

Damnit Janet! Now I *KNOW* that you are talking about Donald J
Trump.

As I've said before, unless you specifically enjoy arguing for the
sake of it, KF the damn fool already.

Should I pass this on the the FBI or Secret Service?

Bwuaahahahaha!
 
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in news:qfautg$qo6$13@dont-
email.me:

1) No matter how persuasive the evidence, he will find some excuse to
dismiss it.

You are talking about Donald J. Trump, right?

Bwuahahahahaha!

Oh and you spelled 'true' wrong. (you wrote 'persuasive').
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:28:42 AM UTC-7, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 8:49:37 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 5:49:42 AM UTC-7, tra...@optonline.net wrote:

[on the old Libya siuation]

... how they started doesn't matter, the US participated in
BOMBING the country to HELP the opposition.

It's irrelevant as to who the opposition was. Sure, it was a mix of all
kinds of groups,...

Not true; in attributing a purpose of helping a group, identifying
the 'group' is completely relevant. No identifiable group was getting
aid here. The stated purpose is a deception .
 

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