Driver to drive?

[RobertMacy]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:20:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:11:20 -0800, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:02:25 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:

I've seen paperwork from the Sheriff's Dept [Arizona] NOT get through
the
system to the judge for 9+ months due to an 'oversight' on someone's
part.
Albeit, a person could be detained that long without a judge even being
involved.

Without his lawyer invoking habeas corpus?

I suspect Robert is misconscrewing (perhaps on purpose , comparing
"papers served" on the public by deputies, against "writs" delivered
by courier to/from judges.

No, I'm not. but thank you for that comment.

The case was NEVER filed formally in the court, only the police and the DA
had the files! Thus, no judge was involved at all. And as I said, the
Defense Attorney was so mediocre in ability that he didn't even check to
see if the case was even filed.

My son-in-law will be sworn in as a presiding judge on the 4th...

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/Inauguration.jpg

I'll ask him what he knows of that case... and how come the (supposed)
4-year delay.

...Jim Thompson

Congratulations, on selecting such a good son-in-law! I know, I know. But
you know what I mean, your daughter learned discernment from you and
applied it to selecting such an effective husband.

 

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:36:26 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 18:28:44 +0200, upsidedown wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:04:59 -0800, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 16:14:27 +0200, upsidedown wrote:

To understand why auto transformers are attractive with small up/down
voltage conversion (say +/- 10 % to +/- 30 %) , one should remember
that in an ordinary transformer, all the power is transferred through
the iron core, while in an auto transformer, only the power related to
the voltage _difference_ goes through the iron core, in this case only
10 % to 30 %.

Huh?
In *any* transformer, all the primary current goes through the primary,
and all the secondary current through the secondary. The secondary amp
turns oppose the primary amp turns, resulting (in a perfect transformer
having no leakage inductance) in zero net amp turns hence zero flux.
Connecting windings in series makes no difference.

True for ordinary transformers with separate primary and secondary
windings.

You can think about the auto transformer as an ordinary transformer
with the primary connected to the input voltage and secondary with 10
to 30 % of the input voltage. connect the secondary in series with the
input voltage and you get 10-30 % boost (in phase) or 10-30 % drop
(connect in antiphase). Only a small amount of the power goes through
the iron core.

Where does the rest go?

It goes through the galvanic connection.

If, by that, you mean two inductors in series, how do you square that
with; voltage ratio=turns ratio, inductance ratio=turns ratio squared?

Assume you have some AC point to point connection to a load.

Then connect a variac at 1:1 settings to the line. What happens ?

The actual power is still flowing to the load.

There might be some reactive (inductive) power flowing through the
auto transformer.

Changing the tap settings and more and more power will flow through
the magnetic core.

 

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:59:09 -0800 (PST),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

>OP is that same eternal-september troll sicko harassing sed with stupid ignorant posts for quite some time now. Don't waste your time on "it."

I would disagree with you.

The OP is definitively not a "please do my homework for me" type.

Discussing this topic is definitively appropriate for this newsgroup.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:50:13 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:30:12 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:08:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:02:25 -0700, RobertMacy
robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:35:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

...snip....

To hold someone more than a few hours take a warrant. Sheriffs don't
issue warrants, Judges do. Detaining someone for questioning, then
quickly releasing doesn't count as false arrest.
..snip...
Interestingly, I've lived right here in Arizona (always in the Phoenix
area) for 51 years... and I don't recall the case even making the
news... TV or newspapers (I don't count New Times as a newspaper).

...snip...

I've seen paperwork from the Sheriff's Dept [Arizona] NOT get through the
system to the judge for 9+ months due to an 'oversight' on someone's part.
Albeit, a person could be detained that long without a judge even being
involved.

How can that be? He would have been assigned a public defender at
arraignment. Maybe the public defender dropped the ball?

A judge isn't involved in the arraignment?

Yes. But initial arraignment is (IIRC) a 48-hour hold until your own
lawyer or public defender files for a bail hearing or a writ of habeas
corpus.

Sure but 48hrs <> 9+ months

I wouldn't count on the relevance of 'making the news' here. Examples,
glancing through local coverage trying to obtain news, all I saw were
people doing stupid crimes, justifications for harsh police actions, a lot
of interviews of bystanders and neighbors stating their 'feelings' about
some incident, a box of puppies [yes, a box of puppies], a whole segment
on 'how to shop'; with the best/worst of all,...all the newspeople were
dancing and chattering at the same time with the image turned upside down
demonstrating what I have no idea and further don't care. It's all crap.

In defense, the absolutely BEST news coverage I've ever seen locally was
when the events were unfolding and there was no time to sanitize, nor
homogenize, the news into standard blather. However, when the unfolding
did slow down enough for the station to get ahead, they actually rescinded
some statments [which from viewing the footage were correct so why
rescind?] and then came the 'sound/video bites' justifying the brutal
actions, followed by, you guessed it, almost a box of warm puppies.

I no longer live in Sheriff Joe's jurisdiction, I now live in Sheriff
Paul's...

http://tinyurl.com/lukq649

Another "noisy" sheriff >:-}

I like the ones in Colorado who've told the legislature to pound sand
(re: enforcing the absurd new gun laws).

Sheriff Paul Babeu is like that as well. He sticks it right in the
nose of the Feds. Of course they bounce right back with an ad hominem
attack outing Babeu as gay. Such a country we've come to :-(

The left is homophobic? Lefties are bigots? Who wudda thunk.

Racist as well. Left-leaning Arizona editorial pages have labeled me
racist, ignoring or ignorant of the fact that I've managed to get
high-tech jobs in Arizona for _many_ disadvantaged blacks stuck in
that hell-hole suburb of "liberal" Boston... Roxbury.

...Jim Thompson
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[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:51:07 -0700, RobertMacy
<robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:20:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:11:20 -0800, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:02:25 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:

I've seen paperwork from the Sheriff's Dept [Arizona] NOT get through
the
system to the judge for 9+ months due to an 'oversight' on someone's
part.
Albeit, a person could be detained that long without a judge even being
involved.

Without his lawyer invoking habeas corpus?

I suspect Robert is misconscrewing (perhaps on purpose , comparing
"papers served" on the public by deputies, against "writs" delivered
by courier to/from judges.


No, I'm not. but thank you for that comment.

The case was NEVER filed formally in the court, only the police and the DA
had the files! Thus, no judge was involved at all. And as I said, the
Defense Attorney was so mediocre in ability that he didn't even check to
see if the case was even filed.

My son-in-law will be sworn in as a presiding judge on the 4th...

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/Inauguration.jpg

I'll ask him what he knows of that case... and how come the (supposed)
4-year delay.

...Jim Thompson

Congratulations, on selecting such a good son-in-law! I know, I know. But
you know what I mean, your daughter learned discernment from you and
applied it to selecting such an effective husband.

:'(

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:47:14 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:02:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Macy wrote:

rescind?] and then came the 'sound/video bites' justifying the brutal
actions, followed by, you guessed it, almost a box of warm puppies.

What's wrong with puppies? ANTI-PUPPYIST!!!

Grins,

James Arthur

Once, in Chandler Fashion Mall, I see in the distance a
very-well-stacked young lady approaching, decked out in a nearly
see-thru T-shirt.

As she comes nearer I can see that the T-shirt is labeled...

"Happiness is a warm puppy"

but with a line drawn thru "puppy"

and written below it "pussy" >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 18:59:29 +0200, upsidedown wrote:

Assume you have some AC point to point connection to a load.

Then connect a variac at 1:1 settings to the line. What happens ?

The actual power is still flowing to the load.

There might be some reactive (inductive) power flowing through the auto
transformer.

Changing the tap settings and more and more power will flow through the
magnetic core.

Actually less power, for a constant load, since the voltage reduces.

Derive an expression for the voltages and currents in an autotransformer
tapped at, say 30%, hence the flux. Neglect winding resistance.

--
"Design is the reverse of analysis"
(R.D. Middlebrook)

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:44:31 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:59:39 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/12/2013 2:44 AM, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:50:40 PM UTC-5, bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:
People were saying the same thing about the first peace time federal income tax, and PPACA is not nearly as earth shattering. Get used to it, it's here to stay.

The PPACA is the theory that the government can make the People
do anything. Not just regulate what citizens do, but compel them
to actively do things, contract private parties against their will,
etc. And, by lying to them to pass it if necessary.

That would parallel conscription - compelling citizens to join the army
and get them to march off and fight - and die - in foreign wars. Vietnam
comes to mind. Did you protest against that? Many did.

It's a far bigger deal than mere income tax.

But scarcely novel or unique.

It *is* unique and novel in America.

It changes America from a nation of and by the People, into
one with an all-powerful central authority that decides
every person's most private particulars, and the power to
punish any diversity.

And it codifies the federal government's right to collect,
archive, and share all of every citizen's personal papers,
affairs, transactions and effects.

In short, it makes Americans subjects.

It's likely to kill fewer people than
conscription and the language you use is a little over-blown.

You've got no basis for that, and even if you did it's an
irrelevant, callous standard. Is anything that kills fewer
people than war, then, permissible?


Cheers,
James Arthur

That blowfly Slowman goes into a bar and asks: "Is that stool taken?"

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.]

In article <bia8tvFjfvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
anand.paralkar@gnospammale.com says...

4. I am not sure, but I get a feeling that some of us reading this post
have "registered" this as "bridge blowing-up". No, it is the variac
fuse that blows-up. Infact, there was no heating on any of the bridge
(or capacitors for that matter).

Sounds like you have it connected backwards!
Are you first connected to the AC, then output of the
variac to the bridges?

Jamie

 

[John S]

On 12/29/2013 9:08 AM, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:04:42 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:09:11 +0530, "Anand P. Paralkar"
anand.paralkar@gnospammale.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a relatively high voltage-high current DC source.
The scheme is simple and uses no regulation (therefore no feedback
control). The scheme is as follows:

Utility mains supply => Variac => Three full wave rectifier bridges in
parallel => Huge capacitor bank => Load.

Variac: something similar to this one:
http://orgchem.colorado.edu/Technique/Equipment/Communityequip/Variac.html

Bridge: KBPC3510

Capacitor bank: 6800uF, 400V

I could not find a full wave bridge rectifier with a sufficiently high
current rating and therefore, I thought of paralleling three that were
readily available.

I start (slowly) increasing the output AC voltage of variac so as to
increase the DC supply to the load. However, the variac fuse blows-up at
around 10V AC output!

Paralleling three bridges may not be the most elegant way to build a
high-current DC source, but I do not understand what could cause the fuse
in the variac to blow-up. (Please note, everything works fine with a
single bridge rectifier. This ofcourse limits the amount of load current
I can draw out from the source.)

Thank you for your help and greetings for festive season. Wish everyone
a new year full of good health and prosperity!

Regards,
Anand

---
Here's what you'll have with the 240V VARIAC cranked to 100% and ideal
diodes:


LTspice listing snipped.

For reality's sake, you need some series resistance in the source.

Yes. What value would you recommend for this simulation?

> Why hide V1 parameters?

As JF stated, it is easy to see the parameters by simply right-clicking
on the source. If you want to see them on the schematic permanently,
simply click the box in the lower left corner "Make this information
visible on the schematic" after right-clicking the source. Easy.

Cheers,
John S

 

[John S]

On 12/29/2013 10:59 AM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

OP is that same eternal-september troll sicko harassing sed with stupid ignorant posts for quite some time now. Don't waste your time on "it."



Spehro Pefhany

--

"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"

speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com

Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Fred, please do not sully this thread. At this point it doesn't matter
what the OP had in mind. There is a dialogue going on that is
instructional to many and pleasing to others. Please leave us to enjoy
ourselves.

Thanks,
John S

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:47:50 -0600, John S wrote:

On 12/29/2013 9:08 AM, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:04:42 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:09:11 +0530, "Anand P. Paralkar"
anand.paralkar@gnospammale.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a relatively high voltage-high current DC source.
The scheme is simple and uses no regulation (therefore no feedback
control). The scheme is as follows:

Utility mains supply => Variac => Three full wave rectifier bridges in
parallel => Huge capacitor bank => Load.

Variac: something similar to this one:
http://orgchem.colorado.edu/Technique/Equipment/Communityequip/Variac.html

Bridge: KBPC3510

Capacitor bank: 6800uF, 400V

I could not find a full wave bridge rectifier with a sufficiently high
current rating and therefore, I thought of paralleling three that were
readily available.

I start (slowly) increasing the output AC voltage of variac so as to
increase the DC supply to the load. However, the variac fuse blows-up
at around 10V AC output!

Paralleling three bridges may not be the most elegant way to build a
high-current DC source, but I do not understand what could cause the
fuse in the variac to blow-up. (Please note, everything works fine
with a single bridge rectifier. This ofcourse limits the amount of
load current I can draw out from the source.)

Thank you for your help and greetings for festive season. Wish
everyone a new year full of good health and prosperity!

Regards,
Anand

---
Here's what you'll have with the 240V VARIAC cranked to 100% and ideal
diodes:


LTspice listing snipped.

For reality's sake, you need some series resistance in the source.

Yes. What value would you recommend for this simulation?

Why hide V1 parameters?

As JF stated, it is easy to see the parameters by simply right-clicking on
the source. If you want to see them on the schematic permanently, simply
click the box in the lower left corner "Make this information visible on
the schematic" after right-clicking the source. Easy.

I knew that already.
Shift-alt-ctrl-H will unhide it as well.

I was interested as to why John thought it necessary to hide the
parameters, especially in view of the fact that supply impedance has an
effect on peak rectifier current.

--
"Design is the reverse of analysis"
(R.D. Middlebrook)

 

[John S]

On 12/29/2013 1:12 PM, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:47:50 -0600, John S wrote:

On 12/29/2013 9:08 AM, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:04:42 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:09:11 +0530, "Anand P. Paralkar"
anand.paralkar@gnospammale.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a relatively high voltage-high current DC source.
The scheme is simple and uses no regulation (therefore no feedback
control). The scheme is as follows:

Utility mains supply => Variac => Three full wave rectifier bridges in
parallel => Huge capacitor bank => Load.

Variac: something similar to this one:
http://orgchem.colorado.edu/Technique/Equipment/Communityequip/Variac.html

Bridge: KBPC3510

Capacitor bank: 6800uF, 400V

I could not find a full wave bridge rectifier with a sufficiently high
current rating and therefore, I thought of paralleling three that were
readily available.

I start (slowly) increasing the output AC voltage of variac so as to
increase the DC supply to the load. However, the variac fuse blows-up
at around 10V AC output!

Paralleling three bridges may not be the most elegant way to build a
high-current DC source, but I do not understand what could cause the
fuse in the variac to blow-up. (Please note, everything works fine
with a single bridge rectifier. This ofcourse limits the amount of
load current I can draw out from the source.)

Thank you for your help and greetings for festive season. Wish
everyone a new year full of good health and prosperity!

Regards,
Anand

---
Here's what you'll have with the 240V VARIAC cranked to 100% and ideal
diodes:


LTspice listing snipped.

For reality's sake, you need some series resistance in the source.

Yes. What value would you recommend for this simulation?

You omitted what you though might be an appropriate value for the
simulation.

Thanks,
John S

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:18:05 -0600, John S wrote:

On 12/29/2013 1:12 PM, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:47:50 -0600, John S wrote:

On 12/29/2013 9:08 AM, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:04:42 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:09:11 +0530, "Anand P. Paralkar"
anand.paralkar@gnospammale.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a relatively high voltage-high current DC
source. The scheme is simple and uses no regulation (therefore no
feedback control). The scheme is as follows:

Utility mains supply => Variac => Three full wave rectifier bridges
in parallel => Huge capacitor bank => Load.

Variac: something similar to this one:
http://orgchem.colorado.edu/Technique/Equipment/Communityequip/Variac.html

Bridge: KBPC3510

Capacitor bank: 6800uF, 400V

I could not find a full wave bridge rectifier with a sufficiently
high current rating and therefore, I thought of paralleling three
that were readily available.

I start (slowly) increasing the output AC voltage of variac so as to
increase the DC supply to the load. However, the variac fuse
blows-up at around 10V AC output!

Paralleling three bridges may not be the most elegant way to build a
high-current DC source, but I do not understand what could cause the
fuse in the variac to blow-up. (Please note, everything works fine
with a single bridge rectifier. This ofcourse limits the amount of
load current I can draw out from the source.)

Thank you for your help and greetings for festive season. Wish
everyone a new year full of good health and prosperity!

Regards,
Anand

---
Here's what you'll have with the 240V VARIAC cranked to 100% and
ideal diodes:


LTspice listing snipped.

For reality's sake, you need some series resistance in the source.

Yes. What value would you recommend for this simulation?

You omitted what you though might be an appropriate value for the
simulation.

For John's approximately 100 amp supply, 120 milliohms would be a
reasonable guess. 5% regulation is what I'd want on an industrial supply.
That gives about 344 amps peak diode current.

--
"Design is the reverse of analysis"
(R.D. Middlebrook)

 

[Mike Perkins]

On 24/12/2013 23:53, Don Y wrote:

Hi Martin,

On 12/24/2013 11:53 AM, Martin Riddle wrote:
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:28:01 -0700, Don Y<this@isnotme.com> wrote:

Are there any tools (interactive or batch) that will
accept a high resolution scan (this shouldn't matter!)
and produce a "normalized" Gerber photoplot format
(that I can subsequently post-process) from existing
films or an actual (bare) board?

Ether import a bitmap into Eagle, or import a DXF file.
You can convert a pdf to a DWG file, then export a DXF out of Autocad.
Or just import the Bitmap into Eagle, fix the layers and create
Gerbers.

frown> I think that's just fiddling with graphics.

What I want is to get to valid gerbers and, from there,
rebuild the connectivity map (netlist) and, eventually,
schematic.

See...
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/eda/re-laying-out-a-board-from-a-pdf/

I could give it a shot if you like. I just need a good scan.

Thanks, but I'm looking more for a toolset than a "one-off".

Many years ago I recall a package that could rebuild a netlist from a
Gerber. Not sure if this is the one though, or if it can accept other
formats associated with scans:

http://numberone.com/intellgerber.asp


--
Mike Perkins
Video Solutions Ltd
www.videosolutions.ltd.uk

 

[Reinhard Zwirner]

Jim Thompson schrieb:

[...]

Who is it that persists in obstinacy that it's "criminal misbehavior",
when he's halfway around the world _and_ getting his information via
New Times... a rag known to those living in the State of Arizona to be
a scandal sheet with more twisted reporting than any perversions seen
on MSNBC ?>:-}

That isn't true. I've asked for showing me a source where to read the
truth about this case or posting the true facts right here.

Okay, one can't always rely on what can be found in Wikipedia, but as to

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Staged_assassination_plot>

there is a saying in my country as well as in yours: Where there's
smoke there's fire ...

To hold someone more than a few hours take a warrant. Sheriffs don't
issue warrants, Judges do. Detaining someone for questioning, then
quickly releasing doesn't count as false arrest.

Obviously I'm not the only one here who is a little bit sceptical if
all what has happened as to the Savilles case was really according to
law.

Best regards

Reinhard

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:01:38 +0100, Reinhard Zwirner
<reinhard.zwirner@t-online.de> wrote:

Jim Thompson schrieb:

[...]
Who is it that persists in obstinacy that it's "criminal misbehavior",
when he's halfway around the world _and_ getting his information via
New Times... a rag known to those living in the State of Arizona to be
a scandal sheet with more twisted reporting than any perversions seen
on MSNBC ?>:-}

That isn't true. I've asked for showing me a source where to read the
truth about this case or posting the true facts right here.

Okay, one can't always rely on what can be found in Wikipedia, but as to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Staged_assassination_plot

there is a saying in my country as well as in yours: Where there's
smoke there's fire ...

To hold someone more than a few hours take a warrant. Sheriffs don't
issue warrants, Judges do. Detaining someone for questioning, then
quickly releasing doesn't count as false arrest.

Obviously I'm not the only one here who is a little bit sceptical if
all what has happened as to the Savilles case was really according to
law.

Best regards

Reinhard

Yep, You're not the only one... there's you and bloggs >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Don Y]

Hi Robert,

On 12/29/2013 9:45 AM, RobertMacy wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:11:20 -0700, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:02:25 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:

I've seen paperwork from the Sheriff's Dept [Arizona] NOT get through
the
system to the judge for 9+ months due to an 'oversight' on someone's
part.
Albeit, a person could be detained that long without a judge even being
involved.

Without his lawyer invoking habeas corpus?

the example I mentioned the defense attorney didn't 'notice', just
assumed the case was moving through the system.

Many "systems" have similar blindnesses. E.g., if you are in a hospital
and *don't* have someone there looking after your needs/desires, you
run a reasonable risk of getting poor care, late care or *wrong*
care!

I had an argument with the nurse in the (small) recovery room when
SWMBO was in for a surgery. She wanted to dispense a med THAT SHE
HAD ALREADY DISPENSED to SWMBO just a few minutes earlier! She was
convinced I was "confused" about the facts. It was only after I
recited the name of the med, its dose and the reasons *why* it was
dispensed (a few minutes earlier) to her that she began to rethink
*her* memory of the "facts": "Well, it's not written down here..."
(Um, and who's job was that? Do you see any OTHER paid staff in this
SMALL recovery room??)

(sigh) Remember, for them "It's just a job"...

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:13:00 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:42:46 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:


Oh I see lots of problems, this cap switcher, when in series with the buck,
may charge smoothly, but then putting those caps in parallel
on the next step, would require precise equal caps (so they were charged to the same voltage),
else you get big spikes (at that 1MHz) in the switching FETS to equalize the cap voltages,

Agreed--any cap mismatch produces dV(c), making spikey spikes when
switching from series to parallel configuration, same as a
conventional charge-pump.

If on chip caps then they could be equal, in any case what would aging do with external caps?

I haven't bothered with any numbers, but I rather doubt they could
use on-chip caps. The capacitances and voltages needed are too high.
So says my gut, anyhow.

Let's see...if we wanted 60w (input) worth of charge packets at
1MHz at 170VDC input,
c=60W/(.5*v^2*1Mhz)= 4nF for the series string, or 12nF each for
a string of 3, at 57 volts each.

That would be quite a chip.

I would hope to shout. Dang, that would be massive caps on chip. Mebbe
one of our IC design capable persons could enlighten us on the kind of
area needed. These would have to be relatively good quality (for on chip)
caps as well.

?-)

Realistically, the max easily obtainable is about 1pF/um^2

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[josephkk]

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:42:46 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

Oh I see lots of problems, this cap switcher, when in series with the buck,
may charge smoothly, but then putting those caps in parallel
on the next step, would require precise equal caps (so they were charged to the same voltage),
else you get big spikes (at that 1MHz) in the switching FETS to equalize the cap voltages,

Agreed--any cap mismatch produces dV(c), making spikey spikes when
switching from series to parallel configuration, same as a
conventional charge-pump.

If on chip caps then they could be equal, in any case what would aging do with external caps?

I haven't bothered with any numbers, but I rather doubt they could
use on-chip caps. The capacitances and voltages needed are too high.
So says my gut, anyhow.

Let's see...if we wanted 60w (input) worth of charge packets at
1MHz at 170VDC input,
c=60W/(.5*v^2*1Mhz)= 4nF for the series string, or 12nF each for
a string of 3, at 57 volts each.

That would be quite a chip.

I would hope to shout. Dang, that would be massive caps on chip. Mebbe
one of our IC design capable persons could enlighten us on the kind of
area needed. These would have to be relatively good quality (for on chip)
caps as well.

?-)