Driver to drive?

John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:05:23 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:25:05 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:58:27 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:52:40 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:28:50 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
There's the slideback technique: drive a comparator with RF on one
side, DC feedback on the other. Tease the DC appropriately.

I once made a slideback sampling oscilloscope, using tunnel diodes, as
my EE senior project. I won an award and had to attend a dreadful IEEE
chapter banquet and repeat it to a bunch of old-fart power engineers
who didn't understand a word I said. I described the slideback
sampling scope in this ng some years back and a certain party loved
the idea so much he later decided that he'd invented it himself.
http://store.americanmicrosemiconductor.com/diodes-tunnel-diodes.html
TDs are insanely expensive nowadays, ballpark $100. I used to get them
for a couple bucks from Allied. The fabrication process is insane, and
nobody ever modernized it.

There are some more modern planar germanium back diodes, essentially
low Ip tunnel diodes, but they're RF detectors, useless for switching.
Pity, I used to like tunnel diodes.

http://aeroflex.com/AMS/Metelics/pdfiles/MBD_Series_Planar_Back_Tunnel_Diodes.pdf

John
Try PiN diodes then.
For what? Certainly not switching, amplifying, oscillating, detection,
or mixing.
---
Re. switching, From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIN_diode

"Under zero or reverse bias, a PIN diode has a low capacitance. The low
capacitance will not pass much of an RF signal. Under a forward bias of
1 mA, a typical PIN diode will have an RF resistance of about 1 ohm,
making it a good RF conductor. Consequently, the PIN diode makes a good
RF switch."
---
Good, but not fast. PIN diodes specialize in having a lot of stored
charge, so that the signal current can be quite a bit larger than the DC
current without causing excessive distortion.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

PINs stop behaving like PINs at low frequencies, too. So they don't
make useful wideband switches.
Got to watch the carrier lifetime. The lower the bottom of your spectrum
and the higher the RF current, the longer its carrier lifetime must be.
I found PIN diodes to be great and most of all cheap variable
attenuators as well as switched. Designed in tons of them.


But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.
I've drooled over SRDs all my life and every time I wanted to buy one I
either couldn't have one or it was outlandishly expensive. Guess
avalanching is the only game in town and if you want avalanche-rated
then a bone-simple BJT can easily shoot up to twenty bucks.

--
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John Larkin wrote:

[...]

But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.
Forgot to mention, I was also never able to lay my hand on a tunnel
diode. The hobbyist books had schematics with them in there but that was
all bogus, just like UJTs were. Unobtanium. Can you buy a TD in large
qties at a reasonable price somewhere? I mean, not the $100 ones.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:05:23 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:25:05 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:58:27 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:52:40 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:28:50 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
There's the slideback technique: drive a comparator with RF on one
side, DC feedback on the other. Tease the DC appropriately.

I once made a slideback sampling oscilloscope, using tunnel diodes, as
my EE senior project. I won an award and had to attend a dreadful IEEE
chapter banquet and repeat it to a bunch of old-fart power engineers
who didn't understand a word I said. I described the slideback
sampling scope in this ng some years back and a certain party loved
the idea so much he later decided that he'd invented it himself.

http://store.americanmicrosemiconductor.com/diodes-tunnel-diodes.html
TDs are insanely expensive nowadays, ballpark $100. I used to get them
for a couple bucks from Allied. The fabrication process is insane, and
nobody ever modernized it.

There are some more modern planar germanium back diodes, essentially
low Ip tunnel diodes, but they're RF detectors, useless for switching.
Pity, I used to like tunnel diodes.

http://aeroflex.com/AMS/Metelics/pdfiles/MBD_Series_Planar_Back_Tunnel_Diodes.pdf

John

Try PiN diodes then.
For what? Certainly not switching, amplifying, oscillating, detection,
or mixing.

---
Re. switching, From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIN_diode

"Under zero or reverse bias, a PIN diode has a low capacitance. The low
capacitance will not pass much of an RF signal. Under a forward bias of
1 mA, a typical PIN diode will have an RF resistance of about 1 ohm,
making it a good RF conductor. Consequently, the PIN diode makes a good
RF switch."
---

Good, but not fast. PIN diodes specialize in having a lot of stored
charge, so that the signal current can be quite a bit larger than the DC
current without causing excessive distortion.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

We use them at 10GHz bands. Or maybe it is only used with a trap
filter.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:54 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:48:49 -0700, TralfamadoranJetPilot
BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:30:13 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:27:01 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:27:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:01:12 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:26:03 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Corian. Great stuff.


Not for electronic PCB work, dumbfuck.

Suitable for HV work, but NOT for ANY of the kind of stuff you claim to
make.

Your grasp of the things that matter always seems to ignore those
things that you were never smart enough to grasp the depth of. How
convenient for you. How sad for your customers.

You probably do not even know what the term 'infant mortality' means.

We see no evidence of a bathtub curve these days. Field failure rates
are low, far below MIL-217 or Bellcore calcs, and failures seem to be
pretty uniform over time. Most failures are because of some sort of
abuse.

John


aka Zero observance of ESD precautions.

My production people use proper ESD procedures on all shippable gear.
But we sell a lot of VME modules, which are raw PC boards with front
panels, and a customer can handle all the exposed stuff any way he
wants.

No, one cannot!

See... no enclosure...

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/V420DS.html

So what. Also SEE the ESD bag it came it, and see the precautions the
manual for it no doubt declares.

Your dopeyness factor just bumped up an order of magnitude.

But as noted, our field failure rates are well below industry
standards,

So what? If any of it ever gets used in a mission critical situation,
you should not be taking the chance to begin with or at all, nor should
you attempt to diminish the dangers of electrostatic fields and charged
bodies around circuit card assemblies.

roughly 5:1 below Bellcore calcs.

Okie dokie.

I think MTBF is dominated
by design, not parts reliability.

Scary.

Most parts are pretty well ESD
hardened these days anyhow,

You ain't real bright sometimes, John.

with a few known exceptions. I don't think
I've ever zapped a part at my office workbench.

I do not think you would even know. There doesn't have to be a
noticeable 'zap' as you call it. as little as a 20 volt charge 'on' you
without a smock would do it. And yes, without a smock, you will carry a
charge, and build one with every step and arm movement.

I just don't look my rugged, manly best in a smock. And I don't
understand how a smock has any effect on ESD at all. Please explain
how a smock works.


Here... Try this... I found a pretty good one after a bit of hunting.
Tell me what you think about what this dude knows.

http://virtual.vtt.fi/virtual/staha/staha/sem5-02/smallwood_jeremy_electrostaticsolutionsltd1.pdf

Besides, I've long ago acquired the instincts to keep myself
un-charged and things equipotential.

Very well put description of a good regimen for one to keep. You do
not appear to keep it, however. Easy test... Smock? Strap? MAT?

I always "touch the mat" when I get to a bench. Then, I "hook-up" for
low voltage stuff. Ideally the ionizing evacuation fan for soldering, or
(and) even an overhead cascade source at the bench. One should also
always have a smock on, because it keep fields inside you, the charge
receptacle.

You really have a thing going for smocks. All our boards are assembled
by naked young girls sitting in tubs of tepid water. That seems to
work pretty well.

John
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On Sep 25, 6:57 am, "Skybuck Flying" <BloodySh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I, Skybuck, however am well known among newsgroups related to computer
technology and especially programming.

You do realize that in your case this not a positive?
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:46:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

[...]

But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.


Forgot to mention, I was also never able to lay my hand on a tunnel
diode. The hobbyist books had schematics with them in there but that was
all bogus, just like UJTs were. Unobtanium. Can you buy a TD in large
qties at a reasonable price somewhere? I mean, not the $100 ones.

Old radios (transceivers).
 
Mycelium wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:46:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

[...]

But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.

Forgot to mention, I was also never able to lay my hand on a tunnel
diode. The hobbyist books had schematics with them in there but that was
all bogus, just like UJTs were. Unobtanium. Can you buy a TD in large
qties at a reasonable price somewhere? I mean, not the $100 ones.


Old radios (transceivers).

When I was a kid I repaired a lot of transceivers. None had TDs in there.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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On Sep 28, 9:05 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 28, 5:26 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:35:22 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 28, 2:23 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 27, 9:24 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 27, 6:29 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:55:25 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 27, 2:02 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:52 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:27:41 -0400, "Martin Riddle"

martin_...@verizon.net> wrote:
<snip>

Genuine calibration has to be tracable to - in the USA - NIST primary
standards.

So what. This sin't the kind of calibration that I was talking about.

No device can calibrate itself.

Why not? If it were to include a primary standard it could certainly
do just that.

You've suggested that before. How do I add primary standards to a
20-square-inch board that sells for a few K$? Hell, I could sell that
part alone for $100K.

You are changing your claim to "no cheap device can calibrate itself"?

My claim is still that building primary standards into measuring
instruments is insane. And given any reasonable size restrictions,
impossible.
So you are changing your claim - again - to "no small device can
calibrate itself"?

No sensible customer would trust any calibration that wasn't tracible
to a National standard. If we claimed we had primary standards on
board, they would think we're crazy.
http://tf.nist.gov/ofm/smallclock/CSAC.html

If you can build a small box that has primary voltage, frequency,
capacitance, temperature, optical power, and resistance standards
inside, why don't you?
I don't recall claming that I could, and in any event the market for
primary standards isn't large.

Few devices can afford to
stop working whenever they feel like and re-zero or linearize
themselves; customers wouldn't like that, and we *do* have customers.

This obviously depends on application, and on how fast the re-
calibration can be done. I once put togheter a scheme where we should
have been able to measure all the 128 fine time delays we could
generate within one millisecond

One millisecond timeout is planty enough to make a product useless, or
dangerous. One nanosecond could, ditto.

This entirely depends on the application. Your stuff for the laser
ignition facility isn't going to busy 100% of the time, and a one
millisecond timeout immediately after a laser shot wouldn't make the
product either dangerous or useless.

Various parts of the system run continuously between shots,
self-calibrating the adaptive optics and such. We got an award from
NIF for our timing system - a handsome laser-engraved wooden thing -
so who the hell are you to tell us how we should have done it?
I was not telling you how you should have done it, merely using it as
an example of an application that has lot of time available for auto-
calibration between shots when it isn't doing anything else, a
proposition that you confirm above.

Mercury is illegal these days, and DPDT mercury relays were never
plentiful. Many were position sensitive. The little telecom relays are
small, cheap, and very reliable. The latching types have unmeasurable
thermal offsets; reeds are rotten thermally.

Non-position sensitive mercury wetted reed relays have been offered
for sale from time to time, but every time I tried to buy one they'd
been withdrawn from the market. I don't believe that they can be made
reliably.

Mercury-wetted reeds are hermitically sealed, and the mercury is no
more dangerous that the mercury in a clinical thermometer - less so,
in fact because the reed is less at risk of being broken.

Tell that to the ROHS folks.
Pity.

That you think that the circuit you posted is "elegant" confirms my
comments about the self-gratifying nature of your "judgement". Your
conclusions about the sophistication of any circuit I might produce
are a little too predictable.

Show us.

I'll skip the bother of doing that and accept the fact that you would
find it to be rubbish.

I bet we would.
This is where we started. Your oringal "bet" was that I can't design
good circuits, presumably because I don't treat your pontifications
with the respect that you think they deserve. It's a bizarre way of
assessing somebody's competence as a circuit designer.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:43:22 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:05:23 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:25:05 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:58:27 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:52:40 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:28:50 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
There's the slideback technique: drive a comparator with RF on one
side, DC feedback on the other. Tease the DC appropriately.

I once made a slideback sampling oscilloscope, using tunnel diodes, as
my EE senior project. I won an award and had to attend a dreadful IEEE
chapter banquet and repeat it to a bunch of old-fart power engineers
who didn't understand a word I said. I described the slideback
sampling scope in this ng some years back and a certain party loved
the idea so much he later decided that he'd invented it himself.
http://store.americanmicrosemiconductor.com/diodes-tunnel-diodes.html
TDs are insanely expensive nowadays, ballpark $100. I used to get them
for a couple bucks from Allied. The fabrication process is insane, and
nobody ever modernized it.

There are some more modern planar germanium back diodes, essentially
low Ip tunnel diodes, but they're RF detectors, useless for switching.
Pity, I used to like tunnel diodes.

http://aeroflex.com/AMS/Metelics/pdfiles/MBD_Series_Planar_Back_Tunnel_Diodes.pdf

John
Try PiN diodes then.
For what? Certainly not switching, amplifying, oscillating, detection,
or mixing.
---
Re. switching, From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIN_diode

"Under zero or reverse bias, a PIN diode has a low capacitance. The low
capacitance will not pass much of an RF signal. Under a forward bias of
1 mA, a typical PIN diode will have an RF resistance of about 1 ohm,
making it a good RF conductor. Consequently, the PIN diode makes a good
RF switch."
---
Good, but not fast. PIN diodes specialize in having a lot of stored
charge, so that the signal current can be quite a bit larger than the DC
current without causing excessive distortion.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

PINs stop behaving like PINs at low frequencies, too. So they don't
make useful wideband switches.


Got to watch the carrier lifetime. The lower the bottom of your spectrum
and the higher the RF current, the longer its carrier lifetime must be.
I found PIN diodes to be great and most of all cheap variable
attenuators as well as switched. Designed in tons of them.


But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.


I've drooled over SRDs all my life and every time I wanted to buy one I
either couldn't have one or it was outlandishly expensive. Guess
avalanching is the only game in town and if you want avalanche-rated
then a bone-simple BJT can easily shoot up to twenty bucks.
SRDs aren't hard to get. MA/Com has distributor parts, under a buck.
M-Pulse and Metelics are good about samples. If you want a few, send
me a SASE.

Oh, here it is...

229-1769 DIO SRD 30V SOT23 150PS MA44769 1PF

MA44769-287 PENSTOCK

Price 58 cents in small quantities.

They also have MA44767-287, 600 ps risetime, a little easier to drive
because it stores more charge.

These make nice edge generators and frequency multipliers. I have a
rubidium clock that generates the 6.3846826128 GHz frequency from a 10
MHz rock with an absurdly small number of cheap parts.

John
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:54 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:48:49 -0700, TralfamadoranJetPilot
One should also
always have a smock on, because it keep fields inside you, the charge
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
receptacle.
ROFLMAO!

Thanks!
Rich
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:53:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Insane

...Jim Thompson
Thompson = zero knowledge of what ESD is.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:46:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

[...]

But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.


Forgot to mention, I was also never able to lay my hand on a tunnel
diode. The hobbyist books had schematics with them in there but that was
all bogus, just like UJTs were. Unobtanium. Can you buy a TD in large
qties at a reasonable price somewhere? I mean, not the $100 ones.
Not any more. I used to buy them from Allied for a few bucks, when I
was a kid. More recently, I was prowling through some dusty bins at
HalTed and found one full of TDs. They didn't know what they were...
just wires with bumps. 10 cents each.

RCA made TDs with peak point currents over 100 amps, but I don't think
they found any good uses for them. The only germanium tunneling parts
still made in any volume are RF detector back diodes.

GPD bought the old GE td process, which was insane, but they don't
seem to make them any more. Maybe somebody else got it.

http://www.gpd-ir.com/products.htm

John
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:54 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:48:49 -0700, TralfamadoranJetPilot

(and) even an overhead cascade source at the bench. One should also
always have a smock on, because it keep fields inside you, the charge
receptacle.

You really have a thing going for smocks. All our boards are assembled
by naked young girls sitting in tubs of tepid water. That seems to
work pretty well.

Got pix?
<leer, snort>

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:55:40 -0700, Mycelium
<mycelium@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:46:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

[...]

But I meant active switching when I was referring to a TD. A TD would
*generate* a fast step from an arbitrarily slow drive.


Forgot to mention, I was also never able to lay my hand on a tunnel
diode. The hobbyist books had schematics with them in there but that was
all bogus, just like UJTs were. Unobtanium. Can you buy a TD in large
qties at a reasonable price somewhere? I mean, not the $100 ones.


Old radios (transceivers).
Old Tek scopes and plugins.

John
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:41:55 -0700, RST Engineering - JIm top-posted
[top-post repaired]
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message

All our boards are assembled
by naked young girls sitting in tubs of tepid water. That seems to
work pretty well.

Is your job application online?
Are you a naked young girl? >:->

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:36:28 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:17 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:17:02 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:





On Sep 26, 10:52 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:27:41 -0400, "Martin Riddle"

martin_...@verizon.net> wrote:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/an-inconvenient-voice-dr-alan-car...

Cheers

How would a lawyer and community organizer know the real truth about
anything?

John

During the election campaign I went to ACORN's website.  They were
still touting their ability to get you an affordable mortgage whether
you qualified or not.  They were pretty blunt about it, and
shameless.  Might've saved a snapshot somewhere...

Where are all tne investigative reporters? On vacation? Hiding under
beds?

John

Honestly? I don't think they care. Obama's their guy. Change you
can believe in, etc.
Three more years! Three more years!

John
 
On Sep 27, 11:17 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:17:02 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:





On Sep 26, 10:52 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:27:41 -0400, "Martin Riddle"

martin_...@verizon.net> wrote:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/an-inconvenient-voice-dr-alan-car...

Cheers

How would a lawyer and community organizer know the real truth about
anything?

John

During the election campaign I went to ACORN's website.  They were
still touting their ability to get you an affordable mortgage whether
you qualified or not.  They were pretty blunt about it, and
shameless.  Might've saved a snapshot somewhere...

Where are all tne investigative reporters? On vacation? Hiding under
beds?

John
Honestly? I don't think they care. Obama's their guy. Change you
can believe in, etc.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Sep 27, 6:37 pm, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

That's not auto calibration, that's just replacing trim pots and screw
drivers with digital pots and an eprom programmer.
Bill you're just being tedious. Autocalibration is soooo 20th
century--we just don't feel the need to discuss it. That doesn't mean
we don't do it.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:43:48 -0700, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:41:55 -0700, RST Engineering - JIm top-posted
[top-post repaired]
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message

All our boards are assembled
by naked young girls sitting in tubs of tepid water. That seems to
work pretty well.

Is your job application online?

Are you a naked young girl? >:-
It's not boards he wants to "assemble".
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:41:36 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:53:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Insane

...Jim Thompson

Thompson = zero knowledge of what ESD is.
AlwaysWrong <=> Always wrong.
 

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