Driver to drive?

[Lostgallifreyan]

Progress...?
http://www.avtechpulse.com/faq.html/IV.33/

I'm studying that as best I can but it's fairly heavyweight, can anyone help
me understand how to use it?

They mention terms like TT (apparently in microseconds, for 'transit time')
but they don't say where they get it from. I don't see it in the two diode
data sheets I tried to find it in, only reverse recovery time, and if it were
the same thing, surely the notation would be same, and it's not. The deeper I
look, the thicker looks the plot.


I'll be patient now and lay off the posting because this looks more complex
than I thought, and might take time to answer. Please do though, if you know
how. I don't mind doing the work but I need to be shown what must be done,
and where to get the data I need to start with. Right now I don't even know
if it IS possible to translate from data sheet to spice model, and it looks
like it isn't.

Time for the serious boffins to duke it out in this thread, if they're
interested.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

krw wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:09:25 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <sa3f659e49r5sbilskfehtteg1n94ov7ga@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:43:18 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Simple possession of over 30 grams is a felony in Indiana.

If they class it as a felony, then it isn't "simple possession" you
stupid fucktard.

Wrong yet *again*. You must really enjoy making a fool of yourself.

It's the only way he's been able to get attention since his mommy
dropped him.

27 times.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:59 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:33:42 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

I would conclude that either the incident you mention happened a long time
ago, or (more likely) you are FOS.

Youagain display the level of retardation that idiots like you have
chosen to express.

It happened in the seventies. What reason would I have to lie, you
retarded piece of shit?

In the 70s..most juristictions considered any amount of Pot to be a
felony.

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:06:13 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
<freedom_guy@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:21:13 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

Cultivation of any amount of marijuana is a felony under Health and
Safety Code 11358.

I'm still waiting for them to try to arrest God. After all, isn't She
the one who's "cultivating" the weeds? >:-

Thanks,
Rich

Only in the midwest. Most other places..its Latinos who cultivate the
outside farms and long haired freaks or the money hungry who cultivate
the inside farms.

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:10:34 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:21:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

which is an optional felony ("wobbler").

Unconstitutional California practice, likely proposed by pigs, for
pigs, and ultimately the state, from a money filching POV.

You guys are famous for raping the citizenry you take oaths to protect.

You mean the California that is and has been run by Democrats for the
past 47 yrs?

That one?

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:22:46 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:21:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

Possession offenders can avoid conviction by making a preguilty plea
under Penal Code 1000, in which case their charges are dismissed upon
successful completion of a diversion program.

"Offenders"? You retarded dirty cop bastards are such a fucking joke.
You are about as Unamerican as it gets. Humans self inebriate, you
retarded twit. And retards like you are the LAST type of "person" (you
barely rate) that should be in the office of a peace officer, a position
of authority. You are akin to placing a child molesting pervert at a day
care center. That is what pigs that have your mentality are. A perversion
of a civil society. Hell, you should have been kicked the fuck out based
on the spelling test results alone, much less your attitude.

They (California) dropped mine simply because I threatened to fight it,
and the fight I was proposing was one they did not want to see a
precedence set in, and they still don't.

I wouldn't expect a twit like you to understand a big word like
precedence though. Nor would I expect you to understand that folks are
fighting this retarded law, based on retarded FDA scheduling assignments
which classify cannabis as a narcotic.

A smart cop understands this. A retarded pig like you never did, and
very likely never will. You are one of those bastards that was in it for
the "abuse your fellow man" factor. That is what you rate, boy.

Looks like the boy is wacked out on some really good hemp.

It appears that he has overlooked the fact that the various Laws I
provided cites to..were enacted by the predominently Democrat/Leftwing
California government.

And Ive not been a cop for about 30 yrs.

But hey...lets watch him running his mouth on a couple bong hits and see
if he gets any more stupid.

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:23:48 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:21:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

Cultivation of any amount of marijuana is a felony under Health and
Safety Code 11358. People who grow for personal use are eligible for
diversion under Penal Code 1000 so long as there is no evidence of
intent to sell. There are no fixed plant number limits to personal use
cultivation. It is possible to win diversion through a Williamson
Hearing.

No longer true.

Cites?

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:26:03 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:21:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'

You must have forgotten that one, when you spent all those years abusing
the citizenry.

I'd be willing to bet that you arrest record would prove it.

Go ahead..provide cites so you can back up your claims. Or can we all
safely assume that you are no more than an ignorant buffoon with
delusions of self adequacy and probably a really expensive drug problem?

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:06:35 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:16:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

That is not possession, idiot.

Snicker..your ignorance of the law is boundless..as is your utter
ignorance of Legal Terms.


Look, you retarded twit, once it is over a certain amount it is
considered "possession for sale", and that is NOT "possession".

Sure is is. Please advise after you have read the H&S code, exactly what
Possession actually means and which crimes have miltiple definitions of
the wrord.

Your ignorance of a simple legal term is rather pathetic and is typical
of the average stoner.

If you were any more retarded, I'd swear that you were a cop. Oh...
that's right, you was one!

You likely failed at that as well.

Simple possession is not a felony in ANY state. Possession for sale IS a
felony in ALL states, you retarded twit.

Simple possession of more than an ounce is a felony in about half of
them. You mean you dont buy more than a good lid at a time when you
fork out your cash for dope? Not even for road trips, and for parties?

Unless you are the typical useless pothead..and actually have a few
dollars..its likely you at one time or another had more than an
ounce..and are a felon. Probably a convicted one at that..but it would
be a toss up if you were convicted of a child molestation or a pot
charge..or both.

Gunner


'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:06:57 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:43:18 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Simple possession of over 30 grams is a felony in Indiana.

If they class it as a felony, then it isn't "simple possession" you
stupid fucktard.

Tsk tsk tsk...you stoners simply cannot wrap your pathetic brains around
the multiple meanings that comes with the term Possession, can you?

Define Actual Possession
Define Constructive Possession
Define Simple Possession
Define Possession for sale
Define Possession to distibute
Define Possession to Use
Define Criminal Possession
Define Possession wtih intent
Define Natural Possession

Just a few terms that Ill bet you have never heard, as stoners simply
cannot remember details....

All of which are found in courts across the land. And Ive left out a
bunch of them.....Possession of X in the 1st degree..etc etc etc

You stoners are typically a stupid bunch.

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:08:22 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:16:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:


Snicker..Im an ex cop who keeps up with the law.

You're an idiot that was a cop with a Nazi pig mentality then, and you
still got it, twit.

You are clueless as to the cannabis laws in the states, much less your
own even.

Which states? Snicker. And your continued use of the term "Nazi" makes
you look like an utter buffoon. Hell..I could be a stoner like you, or
not. But because I make you look stupid...you have to go and impress on
the readers how stupid you really are..which is Very stupid.

Odd..that sounds like most stoners I know. Its obvious you are a
stoner..and a stupid one at that.

Pity

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:26:11 -0700, Capt. Cave Man
<ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt@upyers.org> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:10:58 -0500, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

It's open to the public, DimBulb.

That doesn't make an NPO a business, jackass.

In many/most states..yes it does. And under Federal Law as well..hence
the ADA requirements

Shrug

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:48:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

krw wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:09:25 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <sa3f659e49r5sbilskfehtteg1n94ov7ga@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:43:18 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Simple possession of over 30 grams is a felony in Indiana.

If they class it as a felony, then it isn't "simple possession" you
stupid fucktard.

Wrong yet *again*. You must really enjoy making a fool of yourself.

It's the only way he's been able to get attention since his mommy
dropped him.


27 times.

On his head.




'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

osr@uakron.edu wrote in news:14d6e586-3ca9-44e0-b3da-
0549e4582b5a@k1g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:

ask over on sci.optics.fiber

For an electrical model? Fibre is specifically optical... The people who I
think can answer this hang out in the groups I posted to anyway.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:45:00 -0500, Lostgallifreyan
<no-one@nowhere.net> wrote:

Progress...?
http://www.avtechpulse.com/faq.html/IV.33/

I'm studying that as best I can but it's fairly heavyweight, can anyone help
me understand how to use it?

They mention terms like TT (apparently in microseconds, for 'transit time')
but they don't say where they get it from. I don't see it in the two diode
data sheets I tried to find it in, only reverse recovery time, and if it were
the same thing, surely the notation would be same, and it's not. The deeper I
look, the thicker looks the plot.

We bought some 850 nm fiber-type laser diodes that acted as if they
had a microseconds-response PIN diode built into them, in series with
the actual laser. If you applied current suddenly, the voltage would
overshoot almost 2:1, as if there were an inductor in series. As long
as the current wasn't cut off for too many nanoseconds, it behaved
like a diode. Fine for telecom and maybe for burning CDs, but terrible
for sending baseband on/off digital stuff.

John

 

[Hal Murray]

In article <17if65dmihe0fodjodepqqkbmhe1bj9ipb@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:

We bought some 850 nm fiber-type laser diodes that acted as if they
had a microseconds-response PIN diode built into them, in series with
the actual laser. If you applied current suddenly, the voltage would
overshoot almost 2:1, as if there were an inductor in series. As long
as the current wasn't cut off for too many nanoseconds, it behaved
like a diode. Fine for telecom and maybe for burning CDs, but terrible
for sending baseband on/off digital stuff.

The telcom guys are using baseband. They use scramblers to ensure
that there are enough transitions to do clock recovery. There isn't
much low freqency energy.

What sort of data were you sending? Were there long strings of
1s or 0s?

I seem to remember something about not turning something all the
way off. I have forgotten the context and reasoning.

I think the idea was to modulate it from 10% to 100% rather
than turn it all the way off in order to avoid transients/problems
like you described.


It might have been incandescent lamps, but I don't think so. Reminds me
of the time I went into a dark machine room many many years ago.
(I was sleeping on the couch, babysitting for an all night run.)
All the red lights on the disks were on. Wow were we in trouble!
After a few seconds I figured out that it was just the keep-warm
current to avoid the turn-on transient. Nothing was visible in
normal room light.

--
These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

Definitely a communications breakdown spreading here but I'm not entirely
sure it's electro-optical in nature..

 

[krw]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:14:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:48:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


krw wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:09:25 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <sa3f659e49r5sbilskfehtteg1n94ov7ga@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:43:18 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Simple possession of over 30 grams is a felony in Indiana.

If they class it as a felony, then it isn't "simple possession" you
stupid fucktard.

Wrong yet *again*. You must really enjoy making a fool of yourself.

It's the only way he's been able to get attention since his mommy
dropped him.


27 times.


On his head.

Now _come_on_ Gunner. You know better.

 

Time for the serious boffins to duke it out in this thread, if they're
interested.

ask over on sci.optics.fiber

Steve

 

[UltimatePatriot]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:08:08 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <p73f65ll55gsk1qelpklhim0ndvh3mcmj3@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:33:42 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

I would conclude that either the incident you mention happened a long time
ago, or (more likely) you are FOS.

Youagain display the level of retardation that idiots like you have
chosen to express.

It happened in the seventies. What reason would I have to lie, you
retarded piece of shit?

I'm not a psychiatrist; I have no idea what your motivations are for making so
many false statements.

WHERE!? Idiot!