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Why don't you two guys get a room?On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:23:32 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:
Wow, Mom's really letting you stay up late tonight, isn't she?
Grow up, Miller, you pussy.
Michael E. Terrell flatters himself that his posts contain enoughBill Slomanwrote:
On Jul 19, 6:07 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Doug Miller wrote:
In article <PG86m.27$TL...@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Rich. wrote:
"Thomas" <royalhear...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...
a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).
Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4..
I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?
He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".
I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.
EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.
You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.
As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.
If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.
Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?
I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.
With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.
Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.
California btw..Anaheim.
Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.
his real name and address are:
Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226
He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Slomanwho cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American,
Michael A. Terrell can't get anything right. I do point out that
Americans could do some things better, which isn't exactly complaining
about everything American. I am entirely in favour of the American
attitude to ageism.
Yawn.
and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.
It's not a European problem, but a problem with the Dutch, who expect
everybody to retire at 55, and do their best to make sure that anybody
over 55 stays retired. I did manage to get a job in the Netherlands at
58 and hung onto it until I turned 61, but since then I've not been
able to get another job, and not for want of trying.
Michael Terrell seems to be a bit too dim to appreciate that Europe
consists of number of different countries with different histories and
different attitudes.
How is this for dim? You couldn't even recognize an obvious forgery
and posted:
Blink blink....if you know so little about me..that you can puff up likeOn Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:00:23 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
Because if you cannot prove Ive threatened you...
Again, dumbfuck. What makes you think I wish to prove anything about
you to anyone else? What makes you think I won't just show up there and
take care of you myself? What makes you think I have any faith in
anything in place currently? What makes a total retard like you jack off
at the mouth with a threat, and then act like a pussy when someone calls
you on it, pissing and moaning about proof? What makes you think I need
ANY proof at all to take care of your pathetic ass?
You are truly naive.
You do Asinine at master level and Jerk at world class level.On Jul 19, 6:05 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Jul 19, 6:07 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Doug Miller wrote:
In article <PG86m.27$TL...@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Rich. wrote:
"Thomas" <royalhear...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...
a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).
Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.
I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?
He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".
I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.
EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.
You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.
As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.
If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.
Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?
I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.
With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.
Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.
California btw..Anaheim.
Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.
his real name and address are:
Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226
He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Slomanwho cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American,
Michael A. Terrell can't get anything right. I do point out that
Americans could do some things better, which isn't exactly complaining
about everything American. I am entirely in favour of the American
attitude to ageism.
Yawn.
and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.
It's not a European problem, but a problem with the Dutch, who expect
everybody to retire at 55, and do their best to make sure that anybody
over 55 stays retired. I did manage to get a job in the Netherlands at
58 and hung onto it until I turned 61, but since then I've not been
able to get another job, and not for want of trying.
Michael Terrell seems to be a bit too dim to appreciate that Europe
consists of number of different countries with different histories and
different attitudes.
How is this for dim? You couldn't even recognize an obvious forgery
and posted:
Michael E. Terrell flatters himself that his posts contain enough
useful information to be recognisable. Sadly, he is predictable jerk,
and most people can do asinine.
I'll bet that you think you are a legend, and that your words areYou do Asinine at master level and Jerk at world class level.
Gunner
What part of 'the very mention of OSHA made the geography US only' doIt clearly was not.
Many on here are NOT from the US, (although most
use the language fore fluently than you can)
There are rules for everything, right down to trash cans and keyboardsand yes, you retarded fuck, OSHA does
have rules for 'the halls of congress and other federal institutions' as
well.
Cite???
they
would no carny some of the induced currents too.
Nope. Im just a simple fella, strong in my beliefs, pretty smart, andOn Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
You do Asinine at master level and Jerk at world class level.
Gunner
I'll bet that you think you are a legend, and that your words are
historic.
Your mental illness issues are getting worse. Taking your meds like youYou do stupid at every day dumb American level. That exceeds both
'master' and 'world class' 'level'.
Wrong yet again.On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:54:32 -0700, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:
and yes, you retarded fuck, OSHA does
have rules for 'the halls of congress and other federal institutions' as
well.
Cite???
There are rules for everything, right down to trash cans and keyboards
and wrist rests, idiot. So even office personnel are under its wing. No
'work place' escapes.
"StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt" <Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote in message
news:b59565pf3nes6bkp8du5lej3ruhsks6it5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:23:32 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:
Wow, Mom's really letting you stay up late tonight, isn't she?
Grow up, Miller, you pussy.
Why don't you two guys get a room?
Harold
Can they use yours? You probably don't need it.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:09:50 -0700, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:
they
would no carny some of the induced currents too.
'would no carny'?
WTF is that dumb shit, you illiterate puke?
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:15:25 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Jul 19, 6:05 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Jul 19, 6:07 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Doug Miller wrote:
In article <PG86m.27$TL...@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
Rich. wrote:
"Thomas" <royalhear...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...
a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).
Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.
I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?
He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".
I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.
EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.
You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.
As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.
If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.
Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?
I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.
With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.
Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.
California btw..Anaheim.
Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.
his real name and address are:
Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226
He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Slomanwho cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American,
Michael A. Terrell can't get anything right. I do point out that
Americans could do some things better, which isn't exactly complaining
about everything American. I am entirely in favour of the American
attitude to ageism.
Yawn.
and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.
It's not a European problem, but a problem with the Dutch, who expect
everybody to retire at 55, and do their best to make sure that anybody
over 55 stays retired. I did manage to get a job in the Netherlands at
58 and hung onto it until I turned 61, but since then I've not been
able to get another job, and not for want of trying.
Michael Terrell seems to be a bit too dim to appreciate that Europe
consists of number of different countries with different histories and
different attitudes.
How is this for dim? You couldn't even recognize an obvious forgery
and posted:
Michael E. Terrell flatters himself that his posts contain enough
useful information to be recognisable. Sadly, he is predictable jerk,
and most people can do asinine.
You do Asinine at master level and Jerk at world class level.
Do if for da chillins.
We already knew that you were simple. The remark I made was about yourNope. Im just a simple fella,
If you even have the mental capacity to know what a belief is.strong in my beliefs,
You have yet to exhibit any such level here.pretty smart,
Though it is irrelative, it is hard to believe, wire boy.and
have fought for Freedom for many years.
Though I am not "a liberal" of any kind, let me know any time you wantAnd I enjoy slapping the snot
out of pissy little Libtards such as yourself.
Perhaps someone should let the authorities know about your illicitI dont do it for a
living...just a hobby.
Sounds like a gang boy retard mentality to me.Its easy to do and offers some entertainment.
"like" chatting with the condemned? Not quite the same, you pissyLike chatting with the condemned.
Like trying to find your penis with the magnifier eyewear and tweezers?I do more challenging things most of
the time,
I can empty your spleen for you in a sheer millisecond, if you wish.but hey..a few minutes here, a few minutes there..and pretty
soon my spleen is as empty as your head.
I think my boyfriend will be helpful here. He has some people workingOn Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:25:10 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:00:23 -0700, Gunner Asch
gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
Because if you cannot prove Ive threatened you...
Again, dumbfuck. What makes you think I wish to prove anything about
you to anyone else? What makes you think I won't just show up there and
take care of you myself? What makes you think I have any faith in
anything in place currently? What makes a total retard like you jack off
at the mouth with a threat, and then act like a pussy when someone calls
you on it, pissing and moaning about proof? What makes you think I need
ANY proof at all to take care of your pathetic ass?
You are truly naive.
Blink blink....if you know so little about me..that you can puff up like
a retarded child and post such..then fine....take your best shot at it..
I would STRONGLY recommend putting ID in easily recognized places so
your next of kin can be notified of your passing.
The only other question I have for you is..do you want a southern or
northen exposure? I live in the desert and can provide either one. My
backhoe does well off road and I can put you approx 8' down, so the
coyotes wont be digging you up anytime soon.
Was there any further buffoonery you wish to spew before starting your
martyrdom journey?
Ill be seeing you soon. In fact..am looking forwards to it.
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno- Hide quoted text -
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Helpful in getting you sent to a prison cell.I think my boyfriend will be helpful here.
Nice try, but since I have never had any such conversation with anyHe has some people working
on identifying the guy you're currently engaged with based on a few
other nyms he uses (there are so many). He has a couple of leads at
local (San Diego) contractors doing work for a part of his unit. It
seems that some of the guys there know of a potty-mouthed tech who's
bragged of his Internet skills and how he beats down everyone who he
decides is an "idiot".
Amd I am a pig because I pointed out that defiling the corpse of anSure sounds like the pig you're dealing with.
This absolutely qualifies under the federal guidelines, as a threat.We're trying to decide what do when we have his real ID. Meet him for
a cup of coffee? Post the info so others can also meet him for
coffee? We'll see.
"down" in L.A. doncha mean?On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:58:19 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
Do if for da chillins.
Learn that dumb shit up in LA, did ya, boy?
How so?On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Alicia
alicia.mayberry@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think my boyfriend will be helpful here.
Helpful in getting you sent to a prison cell.
Really?He has some people working
on identifying the guy you're currently engaged with based on a few
other nyms he uses (there are so many). He has a couple of leads at
local (San Diego) contractors doing work for a part of his unit. It
seems that some of the guys there know of a potty-mouthed tech who's
bragged of his Internet skills and how he beats down everyone who he
decides is an "idiot".
Nice try, but since I have never had any such conversation with any
such "contractors", so you and your friends are already barking up the
wrong tree going in.
Blink blink....blink..huh?Sure sounds like the pig you're dealing with.
Amd I am a pig because I pointed out that defiling the corpse of an
enemy soldier is an act which endangers your own fellow soldiers?
Cites?That's pretty sad, little girl. Maybe you need some more years of
growing up to do.
We're trying to decide what do when we have his real ID. Meet him for
a cup of coffee? Post the info so others can also meet him for
coffee? We'll see.
This absolutely qualifies under the federal guidelines, as a threat.
Sorry, honey, but you just committed a federal felony... again.
Cites?
Cites?Performing the search is also a felony act for each "search" you
commission someone to perform. Both you, your boyfriend, and the person
or persons you commission to perform the illegal search function are
guilty of the crime. One count for each and every act.