Driver to drive?

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:46:16 -0700, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:

spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:


demonstrated yourself capable of doing that. So the obvious conclusion is that
you're a prepubescent, snot-nosed kid.


Well snot nosed is REALLY more of an inference is it not?

jk
No. SNOT NOSED is a retarded little bastard that is too stubborn to set
his clock right. You are that immature little retarded bastard.
 
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Jul 19, 6:07 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <PG86m.27$TL...@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Rich. wrote:

"Thomas" <royalhear...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...

a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).

Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.

I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?

He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".

I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.

EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.

You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.

As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.

If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.

Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?

I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.

With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.

Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.

California btw..Anaheim.

Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.

his real name and address are:

Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226

He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Slomanwho cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American,

Michael A. Terrell can't get anything right. I do point out that
Americans could do some things better, which isn't exactly complaining
about everything American. I am entirely in favour of the American
attitude to ageism.

Yawn.


and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.

It's not a European problem, but a problem with the Dutch, who expect
everybody to retire at 55, and do their best to make sure that anybody
over 55 stays retired. I did manage to get a job in the Netherlands at
58 and hung onto it until I turned 61, but since then I've not been
able to get another job, and not for want of trying.

Michael Terrell seems to be a bit too dim to appreciate that Europe
consists of number of different countries with different histories and
different attitudes.

How is this for dim? You couldn't even recognize an obvious forgery
and posted:

********************************************************************
Subject:
Re: Any Smart DumbAss in here knows How to Increase the
Capacitance of Electrolyte Capacitor?
Date:
Sun, 9 Mar 2008 04:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:
bill.sloman@ieee.org
Organization:
http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups:
sci.electronics.components, sci.electronics.design,
sci.electronics.repair
References:
1




On Mar 9, 10:47 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Hello folks,

I am getting cheap these days, I am trying to cut corner by tripling the
capacitance in the capacitor, is this possible? I have heard that it's
possible. Some people have done it successfully. I am just wondering if
any of you smart dumbass can help.
If you weren't quite the ill-informed idiot that you are, you'd know
that the dielectric in an electrolytic capacitor is formed by the
electrolytic oxidation of the surface of the aluminium foil the forms
the plates of the capacitor.

If you reverse bias the capacitor you can reverse this process, making
the dielectric thinner ( and more likely to break down). Sadly, the
reverse process is unlikely to thin the oxide layer to exactly the
same extent at every point, so you run the risk of lowering the
breakdown voltage faster than you increase the capacitance.

As cheap goes, this about a poor and investment of your time as you
could make - short of slandering me in this user group which however
does seem to give you some kind of demented satisfaction - but do try
it. You won't enjoy the process at all, but does that worry me?

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

********************************************************************


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
On Jul 19, 6:07 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <PG86m.27$TL...@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Rich. wrote:

"Thomas" <royalhear...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...

a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_  20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).

Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.

I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?

He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".

I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.

EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
 Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc...
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.

  You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.

  As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.

 If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.

   Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?

 I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.

 With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
   Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.

Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally.  75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.

California btw..Anaheim.

   Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer.  He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.

his real name and address are:

Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226

  He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense.  A
lot like your friend Bill Slomanwho cross posts here sometimes.  The
old SOB who whines about everything American,
Michael A. Terrell can't get anything right. I do point out that
Americans could do some things better, which isn't exactly complaining
about everything American. I am entirely in favour of the American
attitude to ageism.

and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.
It's not a European problem, but a problem with the Dutch, who expect
everybody to retire at 55, and do their best to make sure that anybody
over 55 stays retired. I did manage to get a job in the Netherlands at
58 and hung onto it until I turned 61, but since then I've not been
able to get another job, and not for want of trying.

Michael Terrell seems to be a bit too dim to appreciate that Europe
consists of number of different countries with different histories and
different attitudes.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen (but in Sydney, Australia at the moment).
 
In article <3mv765da9sgkg1k9t2iiq8lovjgea4mo96@4ax.com>, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:
Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:


There was a transition period
allowed to give plenty of time for the switch over, mean while, they
simply did things like 480 volts in a 240 volt receptacle..
A particular inspectior in a particular jurisdiction might have
allowed this, but it would not be to code, and ther eIS NO GRANDFATHER
CLAUSE any where in the NEC.
Well, no, but any attempt at forcing compliance with a code that didn't exist
at the time the installation was made falls under the Constitutional
prohibitions against ex post facto legislation...
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:37:26 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:14:26 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Usenet is an anonymous forum, dumbshit.

Wrong yet again.

No, it is absolutely right. My post headers ID the source, and THAT is
ALL you or anyone else needs to know about me. I have no legal or moral
requisite to ID myself to you at a personal level.

Wrong again, as always. You have a definite, clearly defined moral
responsibility to everyone you come in contact with to slit your
wrists and/or otherwise off yourself. Your pain is clearly seen in
your vulgar, disgusting language. Why suffer any longer? Why prolong
the inevitable? If you don't take yourself out of play, you will
undoubtedly one day meet up with someone who will do it for you -
you're just that kind of individual. And then you won't be able to
select the methodology. They'll likely find you face down at the San
Diego LGBT Community Center (El Cajon) with a massive anal dildo
stuffed down your throat. Your celibacy won't help you Archie, you're
gonna be fucked!
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:45:27 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>
More proof of how clueless you are. Ever heard of attached storage,
dipshit? That is as temporary as it gets.

Kinda like your withered dick, eh Archie?
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:39:43 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>


NO! You fucking idiot! As was stated already, My ID is in EVERY post I
make, and nothing you jack off at the mouth with about "lying" amounts to
a goddamned thing, you stupid twit.

Temper, temper Archie. I keep reminding you that such outbursts send
your blood pressure sky high. That is very dangerous, especially for
African Americans.
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:42:52 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>


I am the sole member of the household, you pissy little bitch. I am
the sole user of the computer, despite YOUR retarded lies about it being
"mommy's".

Of course you are Archie. You are an admittedly celibate individual.
It's the years of pent-up semen that has flooded your cranial cavity
and caused your brain to shrink. This, coupled with the massive
complementary deposits of other individuals' semen filling your
stomach makes you a walking DNA repository for all of the dregs of
society. I'm surprised that the FBI doesn't declare you as material
evidence for every sex crime committed on the left coast.
 
It sure looks like Doug took you to the cleaners this time Archie.
He's made you expose yourself as the fucking moron you really are.

Buwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!





On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:44:54 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:23:32 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:


Wow, Mom's really letting you stay up late tonight, isn't she?


Grow up, Miller, you pussy.
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:52:07 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>

You are lucky that I am a nice guy



Archie - that's quite a stretch, especially for the huge asswipe that
you are!
 
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:50:40 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <3mv765da9sgkg1k9t2iiq8lovjgea4mo96@4ax.com>, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:
Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:


There was a transition period
allowed to give plenty of time for the switch over, mean while, they
simply did things like 480 volts in a 240 volt receptacle..
A particular inspectior in a particular jurisdiction might have
allowed this, but it would not be to code, and ther eIS NO GRANDFATHER
CLAUSE any where in the NEC.

Well, no, but any attempt at forcing compliance with a code that didn't exist
at the time the installation was made falls under the Constitutional
prohibitions against ex post facto legislation...
Fire codes do this all the time, particularly in commercial and rental
units. Smoke and CO detectors being prime examples.
 
Rich. wrote:

"Thomas" <royalheart39@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...

a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

conductors, and one grounding conductor).


Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.
True, but note the condition I mentioned: COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT
circuits. By this I mean sharing ONLY the EGC.

NEC 210.4(B) stipulates that multiwire branch circuits be provided with
a disconnecting means that simultaneously opens all ungrounded
conductors at the point where the branch circuit originates. Therefore,
since this is a residence and therefore 120/240 single-phase, a 3-wire
branch circuit requires either a 2-pole breaker or two single-poles with
handle ties installed. This means they are NOT completely independent as
I stipulated.

My reasoning is this: if one leg trips due to an overload or short, it
makes it more difficult to determine the cause. Which leg has the fault?
Now TWO circuits I'd have to unload then test individually. It seems
more practical to just pull a dedicated grounded conductor for each
phase conductor and use single-pole breakers. This may seem a bit silly
or unnecessary, but from a practical standpoint it makes more sense.
Besides, Joe Homeowner who is living here after me in all likelihood
will not know about this code requirement (210.4(B)) and wonder why
there are numerous 15A and 20A 2-pole breakers in the service panel, and
why single-pole breakers were not used. Never mind opening a J-box to
add a light or receptacle and discovering two dozen or so wires in a
J-box...

I am keeping in mind that I am rewiring a RESIDENCE and that supervised
alterations and/or maintenance of this electrical installation is NOT
guarantied.

Thomas
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:09:44 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:44:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

Id be happy to do just that. Or he can meet me in Orange County.

Gunner

And these pussified retards claim to be civil members of our community.
And these pussified Leftards claim to be all wise and worldly.
Your heart will come calling again, aschhole. When it does, I'll still
be here. God put me here to watch the passing of the world.
It may indeed "come calling", but it will beat happily when yours leaks
out through those nasty holes in your chest and develops an air lock.

Its fascinating how the Leftards present themselves in heroic
measure..when the most hazardous thing they ever have done is cross a
busy street.



"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:01:37 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <14a4651nour85s5pch4vn2gtg4ou2hk40s@4ax.com>, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.

You're a little late to the party, Gunner. I've already demonstrated that
Jamie doesn't have any idea what he's talking about when it comes to wiring
practices or the electrical code.
Ok...shrug..Ive been gone for 2 weeks and havent caught up yet on
Usenet.

Jamie is obvioiusly a putz of the worst sort.

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:26:58 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:07:28 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <PG86m.27$TL.25@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Rich. wrote:


"Thomas" <royalheart39@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...


a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).


Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.

I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?


He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".

I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.


EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.

You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.

As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.

If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.

Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?

I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.

With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.




Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.

California btw..Anaheim.


Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.

his real name and address are:

Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226

He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Sloman who cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American, and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.


Are you done, pussy?

Do you think it is very wise posting people's private contact info
without being solicited to do so is a wise move?

And you are retarded enough to think that someone is going to be showing
up at my door?
So you are admitting that his summery of you, is correct.

Maynard.....damn...I didnt think parents would do that to kids anymore.

So does your first name explain your dementia? Or does the A stand for
Asswipe?

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:16:37 -0400, "Rich." <rcres@XXcomcast.net> wrote:

"Doug Miller" <spambait@milmac.com> wrote in message
news:h3u1si$kh0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <Hgt8m.7720$vp.2574@newsfe12.iad>, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

You should see the screw up that had to be corrected, hacked if you ask
me. we had a long run, a service installed from one of our 2000 amp sub
panel over to a machine that has a 500 HP drive in it along with some
other goodies. 3 EMT pipes were run, one for each phase, 2 1000 MCM in
each pipe.

Do you see anything wrong yet?

They ran a ground wire only in one pipe.

Hint: that isn't it.

Too easy! You cannot run the phase conductors separately like that. When
running parallel feeds like that, it should've been 2 conduits with the 3
phase conductors in each.
Bingo

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:25:14 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

jk wrote:

AwlSome Auger <AwlSomeAuger@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> wrote:

Set your goddamned PC clock right, you absolute retard.

Since this is your second eloquent post----
If you can't deal with it get off the usenet, get a life, infact just
start counting on your 13 toes. Not that you are anything but a
useless, small minded, fowl mouthed, troll.
jk

He is a troll. Here are some of his sock puppets:
And here I was thinking that "Stupid Cunt" was his best and more
accurate sock puppet.

Hummmm...or was that simply an accurate discription of him....?

Indeed


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Hattori Hanzo <OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org
Herbert John \Jackie\" Gleason" <BufordTJustice@Texarkanacops.gov


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"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:40:26 GMT, dufus@bunghole.com (Richard Cranium)
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:12:33 -0700, Bart!
B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig**!.org> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:00:43 -0700, jk <klessig@suddenlink.net> wrote:

'Heel thyself" and save thy sole?)
jk

As long as I get to shove it down your throat and gag you with it.

Otherwise, just like you, it gets cast away with the rest of the slimy
garbage.

Do you have any more adolescent level baby bullshit, little boy?


I wonder what a celibate cocksucker like you means when you refer to
shoving it down someone's throat?
It means he is queer.


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:37:26 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:14:26 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Usenet is an anonymous forum, dumbshit.

Wrong yet again.

No, it is absolutely right. My post headers ID the source, and THAT is
ALL you or anyone else needs to know about me. I have no legal or moral
requisite to ID myself to you at a personal level.
Which proves that Mr. Miller nailed it accurately when he called you a
liar.

But then..he is a very sharp individual.

And you are still a liar.

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
 
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:12:33 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:26:58 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:07:28 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:56:33 -0400, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <PG86m.27$TL.25@newsfe25.iad>, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Rich. wrote:


"Thomas" <royalheart39@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:Snv5m.26$C82.7@newsfe05.iad...


a foot. With THHN, I can safely install nine #12s in one 1/2" EMT, for 4
_completely independent_ 20A circuits (4 phase conductors, 4 grounded
conductors, and one grounding conductor).


Actually, by code you can have 6 phase conductors, 3 neutrals, and use
the EMT as your ground, giving you 6 circuits instead of just 4.

I would like to know where you have 6 phase service?


He didn't say that. The context makes it very clear that by "phase conductors"
he means what the NEC refers to as "ungrounded conductors", or, in the
vernacular, "hot wires".

I won't go into the use of EMT as a ground source.


EMT is explicitly permitted by the NEC as an equipment grounding conductor.
[2008 National Electrical Code, Article 250.118(4)]
Yes, on the solid run, but not after any couplings, connectors etc..
A Greed Wire is to be inserted in the pipe to insure a real grounding
system and each box is to be connected to this ground.

You can not use EMT or the like for a grounding source directly, it
has to have a ground wire in it and the attached equipment in the
circuit also connects to this same ground.

As for the article you popped up, I think you'll find it proteins to
the use of EMT as a grounding buss point, meaning, several grounds can
come off this point using ground clamps from a single run with no
couplings how ever, a main ground source must be bonded to this pipe.

If you truly believe otherwise, then you are practicing very dangerous
habits.

Haven't you ever heard of galvanetic issues with EMT hardware?

I work in a manufactory facility where we still have a lot of older
machines using the access boxes as the ground sources for attached
equipment with no internal ground wire feed from the main buss. I can
say in the time that I have been there, we have seen several fires from
lose EMT hardware connections causing arcs because the attached
equipment was having ground issues.

With dust,oil and paint that has been apply to these machines, it
makes a nice catalysis for a fire.
Most of the time if your lucky, the lose connects will weld them
self's long enough to force the protection to initiate.




Then the various Licensed Electricians who installed machines etc over
the years at the factory I finished tearing down yesterday were all
doing it illegally. 75,000 sq ft and no grounds in any of the
boxes/runs.

California btw..Anaheim.


Jamie is a ham radio operator who claims to be an engineer. He is
about as bright as the 50+ sock puppet dimbulb troll.

his real name and address are:

Maynard A Philbrook, Jr
520 Pleasant St.
Willimantic Ct. 06226

He claims his company continues to use chemicals banned by the EPA,
that he reused outlets at higher than rated voltages where he works. He
pretends he is intelligent, but rarely makes a post without a dozen
spelling and punctuation errors, along with words that make no sense. A
lot like your friend Bill Sloman who cross posts here sometimes. The
old SOB who whines about everything American, and that they discriminate
against him in Europe, because he's old.


Are you done, pussy?

Do you think it is very wise posting people's private contact info
without being solicited to do so is a wise move?

And you are retarded enough to think that someone is going to be showing
up at my door?

So you are admitting that his summery of you, is correct.
The term is summary, you retarded twit, and he was not talking to me,
dumbfuck.
Maynard.....damn...I didnt think parents would do that to kids anymore.

So does your first name explain your dementia? Or does the A stand for
Asswipe?
Jamie is Jamie. You are a brainless twit, on the other hand. Thanks for
exposing yourself as such, so that folks can easily recognize you and
filter and ignore you.

The total retard that thinks he ranks high in society. You barely rate
retard, retard. Your sig proves that.
 

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