Driver to drive?

[Michael A. Terrell]

Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

http://www.kentech.co.uk/index.html?/&2

LOL. I guess it depends on who are their customers. There are quite many
people who would consider this mission statement offensive.

Who wants that kind of anal retentive customer?


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Corbomite Carrie]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:31:58 +0100, Baron
<baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Archimedes' Lever Inscribed thus:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:49:36 +0100, Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Archimedes' Lever Inscribed thus:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:34:38 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

And do not forget the fact that some M$ apps actively modify and
sometimes reject other apps....

Sure, bub. Yet another MS retard that can't help using the
retarded
morphographic horseshit "M$" moniker. You *should* be able to say
that your mental age matured past that 13 year old maturity level
CRAP decades ago, but you cannot.

I have Office Pro 2k7, and I have installed it on my Vista drive,
and my Windows7 drive, and regardless of which one I boot, my
updates work perfectly, and I have never seen it "modify another
program",
like you describe here. Cite?

What do you think an update does then ?


You're an idiot if you think that equates with "some M$ apps
actively
modify and sometimes reject other apps...."

In fact, you are an idiot for that stupid remark... period.

PLONK

Even more retarded is when a dipshit like you announces your filter
file edit sessions! As if anyone here gives a fat flying fuck who you
decide to filter. Can you really be that fucking retarded?

You are as retarded as it gets in Usenet, boy!

 

[Corbomite Carrie]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:47:19 -0400, Bill Palmer <Biiil@none.not> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:31:58 +0100 Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in Message id:
gueebl$u3q$1@news.motzarella.org>:

Archimedes' Lever Drooled thus:

[...]

You're an idiot if you think that equates with "some M$ apps
actively
modify and sometimes reject other apps...."

In fact, you are an idiot for that stupid remark... period.

PLONK

What took you so long?

Almost as retarded as announcing one's filter file edit session, is
when another total retard responds to it. You are that retard.

 

"Jon Kirwan" <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote in message
news:2ubm05dfo8rshkr9t2n4rtk9d6u8c54mrv@4ax.com...

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:03:45 -0700 (PDT), mj <elucify@gmail.com
wrote:

I'm replying to myself here because I have a solution that works for
the moment.

It seems that it was enough to just have no current-limiting resistor
in the collector. We'll see how that goes with 12 LEDs; I may yet have
to get a low output impedance cap to avoid flicker.

Here's a short video demonstrating what I have so far on my breadboard
with this project:
http://sn.im/datastrobe1

Thanks to all who responded.

--Mark

Thanks, Mark. That was really great in terms of letting me see
exactly what you are doing. That disk almost looks like those ink jet
printable dvd disks I've seen.

My wife didn't understand the video, at first. I had to add more
explanations to get her to accept that it wasn't just shining a
flashlight on a wheel with letters on it. Part of her distraction
about that was due to the time you spent talking about the IR LED,
which made her think that you thought it was the main attraction when
it was just part of the mechanism you wanted to highlight but wasn't
the feature attraction. I explained it more, then she got it. I
particularly just added the idea of a car's timing light. Then it was
much clearer to her.

Her immediate jump was then towards using this NOT for displaying
letters but instead for doing animation -- she draws cartoons and is a
writer. As a toy device, she thinks that this would be far more
interesting than just some character output device, which really
doesn't get her attention nearly as much.

You are probably already familiar with drawing stick figure cartoons
on the margins of a book and then flipping the pages to see the
action. A huge difference that this kind of device contributes to
something so low-tech is that the series of images are laid out on the
perimeter do NOT have to be seen in the same sequence. In other
words, a set of ... say, 50 images ... can be played in a wide variety
of ways, allowing not just one "story" or two, but a great many
different ways of being played out. Not all the same length of time,
either. In the end, a lot could be done. Even a game, perhaps, that
plays out differently with different people making different choices
in order to impact the way it proceeds.

It __may__ even be possible, with additional thinking, to consider
allowing end-users to do their own images -- even hand-drawn on those
dvds I mentioned -- with feedback coming from timing marks they also
draw on the perimeter edge with a pen. Some means of adjusting those
marks (making them wider and using the center, perhaps, allowing them
to go either way in adjusting the timing?) might allow them to "fix
up" what they are doing until it looks pretty good. Okay, practice
will help, too. But it might be fun. How to specify transition
orders might be a problem. Just thinking right now, that's another
issue perhaps.

Anyway, some neo-gaming possibilities are suggested.

Jon

Mechanical color video display as done CA 1900. disk with holes and color
filters.

Bob

 

[Jon Kirwan]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:55:14 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote:

snip
Mechanical color video display as done CA 1900. disk with holes and color
filters.

I thought there might be some possibilities in varying the choice path
of a fixed set of frames. And I hope he gets some fun out of the work
he's doing.

Add some helpful ideas.

Jon

 

On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:24 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:26:19 -0700, D from BC wrote:

Show me proof for Noah's arc and I'll show you proof that all animals
didn't come from the same spot.

I don't have to. I don't make any claims about Noah's ark.

Best not too.. Noah's evidence is so thin that the existence for Darth
Vader is better.


You're the one who is wildly, stridently proclaiming that there couldn't
possibly be any Power Greater Than Yourself, and demanding "scientific
proof" of "fairy tales" from those who believe otherwise.

Yes, I do claim there's no quasihyperhomosapienGod based on the
scientific evidence.
Yes, I do demand people to prove their fairy tales.

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

Thanks,
Rich

And Noah has once again made someone resort to pie hole dipstick name
calling..

Religion is division.

Noah sucks..and there's no evidence.


D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design

As evidence of a higher being one farther above humans than we are
above the ameba I offer the miricle that is human thought. As
evideince that said being doesn't exist I offer the miracle that is
human thought. oops same proof now what do I do I know the supreme
being likes to play jokes on humans as evidience of this I offer Bill
S , Eyore and the arguements for and against those who have faith in
said supreme being.

 

[Martin Harrington]

Well, that's where you're wrong.
There is NO Australian mental health system.
They are either in a normal hospital or out on the streets.

Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound

On 12/05/09 9:18 AM, in article
OZidnZfSm_6lL5XXnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com, "Soundhaspriority"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Oleg Kaizerman" <kaizero1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gua41c$idn$1@localhost.localdomain...

Maybe it would help if you used your real name, and not one stolen from
another person perhaps?
and what about U?

Brian L. McCarty went from being a successful sound mixer in LA, working
with Jeff Wexler, to a client of the Australian mental health care system.
He has been prescribed Clozaril and Risperdal, which are second line
antipsychotics, but apparently does not wish to take the recommended doses.

It is very sad for all of us. Mental illness is a tragedy for everyone it
touches.

Regards,
Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

 

[D from BC]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:26:10 -0600, qrus19@mindspring.com wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, D from BC
myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:24 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:26:19 -0700, D from BC wrote:

Show me proof for Noah's arc and I'll show you proof that all animals
didn't come from the same spot.

I don't have to. I don't make any claims about Noah's ark.

Best not too.. Noah's evidence is so thin that the existence for Darth
Vader is better.


You're the one who is wildly, stridently proclaiming that there couldn't
possibly be any Power Greater Than Yourself, and demanding "scientific
proof" of "fairy tales" from those who believe otherwise.

Yes, I do claim there's no quasihyperhomosapienGod based on the
scientific evidence.
Yes, I do demand people to prove their fairy tales.

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

Thanks,
Rich

And Noah has once again made someone resort to pie hole dipstick name
calling..

Religion is division.

Noah sucks..and there's no evidence.


D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design


As evidence of a higher being one farther above humans than we are
above the ameba I offer the miricle that is human thought. As
evideince that said being doesn't exist I offer the miracle that is
human thought. oops same proof now what do I do I know the supreme
being likes to play jokes on humans as evidience of this I offer Bill
S , Eyore and the arguements for and against those who have faith in
said supreme being.

I'll try to translate the above...
'We think therefore there is a God' ..<<Is that it?
That's the evidence?

Human thought began as a mutation for survival.
The more thinking the better the survival.

The unique feature of thinking is not evidence for a we.so.specialGod.

Many other creatures have unique features.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamprey
Studies reported in Nature suggest that lampreys have a unique type of
immune system with parts that are unrelated to the antibodies found in
mammals.


D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design

 

[z]

On May 4, 12:24 am, Jon Kirwan <j...@infinitefactors.org> wrote:

On Sun, 3 May 2009 20:55:41 -0700 (PDT), z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net
wrote:





On May 2, 11:21 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Some REAL science at last, notably illustrating that the effect of CO2
in the atmosphere is nearly already at saturation level and more can
contribute very little to temperature rise.

And another.

http://www.nov55.com/ntyg.html

" There is no Valid Mechanism for CO2 Creating Global Warming

Firstly, you are exploiting the website of a disturbed person as your
source here; that's bad enough, but you expect the rest of us to join
with you?
"In graduate school, I studied yeast physiology and stumbled onto the
basic control mechanisms for mushroom formation. But I was forced into
seclusion by mental pain, so I moved onto the previously vacated
family farm and did mushroom research. Mental pain is not depression
or schizophrenia. It is memories of pain too close to the surface and
contacted by external stimuli".http://www.nov55.com/abt.html

Secondly, did you note that the top of the page you referenced says in
big font:
"Oceans are heating, not the atmosphere".

You may also want to reference your mentor's pages regarding:
"Kinetic energy is not ˝mv˛. Kinetic energy is mv."http://www.nov55.com/ener.html,
"Relativity is religion, not science"http://www.nov55.com/eins.html,
"[the big bang theory] stems from the motive of disproving a creator.
Atheists in physics claim that the big bang theory proves that random
motion created the universe instead of God. As evidence increases to
indicate that galaxies were created in approximately their present
location, physicists add rationalizations to the big bang theory
instead of admitting they are wrong."http://www.nov55.com/bb.html,
"Evidence and principles of science clearly show that drinking
chlorinated water is the main cause of arterial plaques,"
http://www.nov55.com/hrt.html,
"Cancer is caused by nanobacteria or viruses which look to the
mutation rate of a particular gene to tell them which host to destroy"
http://www.nov55.com/canc.html
"There's no such thing as Fossil Fuel Petroleum"  http://www.nov55.com/geol.html
"soil does not originate with plant roots which break down rocks....
The soil, of course, fell down from space, part of it while the earth
was forming, and presumably some more after a planet exploded where
the asteroid belt is. "http://www.nov55.com/geol.html
"Therefore, the cause of global warming could be ... the central core
being pulled closer to the surface due to gravitational forces in the
solar system related to changes in the earth's orbit."http://www.nov55.com/gbwm.html

and, of course,
"There is no Valid Mechanism for CO2 Creating Global Warming "
http://www.nov55.com/ntyg.html

Oh, my.  Graham and this guy, like two peas in a pod.

It's really sad and I feel so guilty because he openly says I'm the
one that has caused him to fall so far, too.

Jon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I see that the cited site "There is no Valid Mechanism for CO2
Creating Global Warming" has earned the coveted rating of "crankiest"
from crank.net. http://www.crank.net/science.html Four years, ago,
mind you. Kudos for using it four years later to support global
warming denial.

 

[Raveninghorde]

On Thu, 7 May 2009 01:22:06 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:

In article <bmm205hhhdlb8dfccckskqoq6h8ebpigcp@4ax.com>, Raveninghorde wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2009 01:18:53 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:

In article <fhh005p2iq4itdvh7cgj168nisvr8gr21a@4ax.com>, Raveninghorde wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2009 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT), z <gzuckier@snail-mail.net
wrote:

On May 4, 1:29 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

The antartic ice  is above long term trend:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/iphone/images/iphone.anomaly....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

and the arctic ice is below long term trend
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/sea.ice.anomaly.
timeseries.jpg

And put the two together and global ice is above long term trend.

No, sum of Arctic and Antarctic sea ice is below long term trend:

Arctic has "long term trend" (probably since 1979) of losing 500,000
square kilometers per decade, and antarctic has same "long term trend" of
gaining 100,000 square kilometers per decade.

That means the world has "same long term trend" of losing 400,000 square
kilometers per decade.

Toal sea ice +275,000 sq.km

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/iphone/images/
iphone.anomaly.global.png

Today it says +.341 million sq.km, on a brief upward spike previously
exceeded dozens of times.

Smooth that curve with a filter of as little as 2 or 3 years and the
trend is obviously downward.

The alltime low unsmoothed was less than 2 years ago, and it looks like
alltime low with smoothing of a few years was around 2006.

Arctic sea ice -461,000 sq.km

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/iphone/images/
iphone.anomaly.arctic.png

That is at value after a runup of a few months. That runup looks
somewhat similar to one of same time of year a year ago.

Antarctic sea ice +806,00 sq.km

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/iphone/images/
iphone.anomaly.antarctic.png

That is on a brief spike above where a filtered curve would be - at
least not close to the top of the spike.

So the arguement is over reference points and time scales.

Or timing of reporting vales that include a lot of short term noise.

SNIP from here

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Interesting article here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/13/arctic-non-warming-since-1958/

It shows that artic ice is the same now as in 1958. Also shows
Greenland temperatures cooling from 1940 to 1980, the start of the
satellite record, and then increasing.

 

[Baron]

Corbomite Carrie Inscribed thus:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:31:58 +0100, Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Archimedes' Lever Inscribed thus:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:49:36 +0100, Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Archimedes' Lever Inscribed thus:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:34:38 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

And do not forget the fact that some M$ apps actively modify
and
sometimes reject other apps....

Sure, bub. Yet another MS retard that can't help using the
retarded
morphographic horseshit "M$" moniker. You *should* be able to say
that your mental age matured past that 13 year old maturity level
CRAP decades ago, but you cannot.

I have Office Pro 2k7, and I have installed it on my Vista
drive,
and my Windows7 drive, and regardless of which one I boot, my
updates work perfectly, and I have never seen it "modify another
program",
like you describe here. Cite?

What do you think an update does then ?


You're an idiot if you think that equates with "some M$ apps
actively
modify and sometimes reject other apps...."

In fact, you are an idiot for that stupid remark... period.

PLONK


Even more retarded is when a dipshit like you announces your filter
file edit sessions! As if anyone here gives a fat flying fuck who you
decide to filter. Can you really be that fucking retarded?

You are as retarded as it gets in Usenet, boy!
PLONK

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[Rich Webb]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:05:41 +0100, Baron
<baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Corbomite Carrie Inscribed thus:
....
You are as retarded as it gets in Usenet, boy!

PLONK

There's no point in announcing you're plonking him; that's the reaction
he wants, apparently. Even less point of plonking just one out of the
several dozen (really) sockpuppets he uses.

Michael Terrell has recently been posting lists of recent aliases. See
Message-ID: <uf2dnT7rjZ4_vZjXnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> for one.

So if your nntp client can't filter on the fields necessary to discard
all of them, you can at least "prime" your killfile with known aliases.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[Bill Palmer]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:07 -0700 Corbomite Carrie
<Corbomite@maneuver.org> wrote in Message id:
<lf1n05tkro2uk0e1qfpn3bupaf8hj7l6i5@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:47:19 -0400, Bill Palmer <Biiil@none.not> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:31:58 +0100 Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in Message id:
gueebl$u3q$1@news.motzarella.org>:

Archimedes' Lever Drooled thus:

[...]

You're an idiot if you think that equates with "some M$ apps
actively
modify and sometimes reject other apps...."

In fact, you are an idiot for that stupid remark... period.

PLONK

What took you so long?


Almost as retarded as announcing one's filter file edit session, is
when another total retard responds to it. You are that retard.

It's too bad the hospital didn't let your mom have a complete abortion,
instead of the obviously less successful partial you're still showing the
effects of. I'll bet the afterbirth had more social skills, at least until
she ate it.

 

[Baron]

Rich Webb Inscribed thus:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:05:41 +0100, Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Corbomite Carrie Inscribed thus:
...
You are as retarded as it gets in Usenet, boy!

PLONK

There's no point in announcing you're plonking him; that's the
reaction he wants, apparently. Even less point of plonking just one
out of the several dozen (really) sockpuppets he uses.

Michael Terrell has recently been posting lists of recent aliases. See
Message-ID: <uf2dnT7rjZ4_vZjXnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> for one.

So if your nntp client can't filter on the fields necessary to discard
all of them, you can at least "prime" your killfile with known
aliases.

Yes I agree. Thats what I should have done in the first place !
Two ticks and I'll have killfiled the lot.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[Richard Cranium]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:27:09 -0600, "VMCM1905" <VMCM1905@gmail.com>
wrote:

"Richard Cranium" <dufus@bunghole.com> wrote in message
news:4a0ad62d.666380906@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
On Wed, 13 May 2009 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dave
dave_and_darla@Juno.com> wrote:

On May 13, 8:37=A0am, du...@bunghole.com (Richard Cranium) wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:43:03 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote his usual brand of drivel:

Archie:

You can win and achieve the adulatrion you so desperately seek. =A0You
simply take off at full speed running in a right handed helix until
your speed begins to unwind your DNA and you run through your asshole
and turn inside out. =A0THEN, girls will talk to you ... maybe.

adulatrion? What's that?


It's the confusion caused by the extra "r" from another post about
Archie's mental prowess where I spelled "hemmorhoid" (referencing a
potential cause for his frequent headaches) incorrectly. My sincere
apologies to the Mensa crew here. I trust no one has become so upset
that their solution to the world's problems is put on hold.

Not at all. We have all the time in the world as we plan to force nearly
everybody to do our boring puzzles until they kill themselves. World
population will decrease, more natural resources etc.
If that does not work, we plan on maintaining our master plan of not
procreating (a plan forced on us by our proclivities and demeanor with
woman) and thus dooming the gene pool to severe regression to the mean.
Darwin will then take over with similar results to plan A.


Easily defeated by a form of the Corbomite Maneuver!

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 08:25:40 -0400, Rich Webb
<bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:05:41 +0100, Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Corbomite Carrie Inscribed thus:
...
You are as retarded as it gets in Usenet, boy!

PLONK

There's no point in announcing you're plonking him; that's the reaction
he wants, apparently.

Nope. If everyone would plonk NymNuts instead of troll-feeding him,
he'd be dead meat.

Please! Everyone join in.

Even less point of plonking just one out of the
several dozen (really) sockpuppets he uses.

Michael Terrell has recently been posting lists of recent aliases. See
Message-ID: <uf2dnT7rjZ4_vZjXnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> for one.

So if your nntp client can't filter on the fields necessary to discard
all of them, you can at least "prime" your killfile with known aliases.

Agent users contact me directly for "Jim's secret sauce"... it's
easier to filter NymNuts than you think ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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Stormy on the East Coast today... due to Bush's failed policies.

 

[Boomboom]

"Aren't they supposed to blow up if they meet, and explode the entire
planet?"

Nope. You must be talking about William and Ro8$#ertO. lol

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Nobody wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:23:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Best stick vehicles have a hand brake lever between the seats.

Er ... are you saying that this isn't, like, totally standard on US cars?

How would you pull away uphill without a handbrake?

Most American-made cars have a "Parking Brake", pedal left-most
against the wheel well.

So, how do you pull away uphill (without either having three feet or just
being quick enough not to roll back into the vehicle behind)?

Actually, how are you supposed to pull away on the flat? I know that, in
practice, most people just use the footbrake. But if you do that on the UK
driving test, you'll fail; you're not supposed to release the handbrake
until the clutch bites (i.e. no freewheeling at any point).

[Note to Rich: heel-and-toe will also cause you to fail. Pedals aren't
supposed to be operated with the heel.]

You take the test with an automatic transmission.

--
Paul Hovnanian paul@hovnanian.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have gnu, will travel.

 

[Joerg]

rex wrote:

On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:53:57 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2009 09:41:17 -0700, Joerg wrote:

Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2009-05-03, Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
In my house attic, I have several 4 inch white PVC vent stacks which are
simply white PVC drain pipe extending from the wall headers through the
attic and the roof. On the roof, these are covered with lead flashing to
prevent water from getting inside the house. I have been doing a lot of
work in the attic, and have noticed that these pipes "glow" quite
noticeably as a result of the sunlight outside. As this often happens
when the sun is at the horizon and thus at an angle below which direct
coupling into the pipe would be possible, I am very curious as to the
reason that the visible infrared portion is so much more visible than
white light spectrum. Has anyone else noticed this? What is going on?

White PVC sticking out the roof? 4"? Wow. White PVC usually becomes
rotten from UV pretty quickly. If it isn't painted it begins to turn
brown within 2-3 years in our area. After some more years you can
sometimes crumble it by hand.
if it's loaded with TiO it'll last several decades exposed.

Contractors typically use the cheapest stuff they can get. Made in China.
So, how is Chinese PVC different from "domestic" PVC (if there is any such
thing any more)? I'd have assumed that PVC is PVC.

AFAIK there is stuff mixed in to provide UV stabilization and so on. We
have some 10ft lengths of very old PVC pipe, plus elbows and whatnot in
the garage from the previous owner of the house. Wherever I used some of
that it took forever to blacken or never blackend. Sometimes you end up
with two tees in a row, same location. After 2-3 years one is
brownish-black, the other almost as white as new. Guess which one is the
new tee?

Yes, I was wondering about this browning of pipe in the sun. I have
about an 8 foot length of 2" PVC in my back yard that I put out there
standing vertically to support the low end of a wire antenna. It has
been there for at least 15 years and is still white. I think it came
from some stuff I bought in the early 80's so I can only guess new PVC
must be crap compared to old PVC.

No idea about what's different in composition or chemistry.

UV stabilizers, probably. The previous owner had also placed such
vertical posts but mostly to support sprinklers and stuff. He painted
them and that greatly helps. But as usual there are always bare spots.
No blackening in about 20 years of truly pelting sunshine. Then I saw a
utility repair where thy used PVC just a few years ago. Already looks
like chocolate ... I think this PCV stuff _was_ better 20 years ago.

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On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:41:10 -0700, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

Actually, how are you supposed to pull away on the flat? I know that, in
practice, most people just use the footbrake. But if you do that on the UK
driving test, you'll fail; you're not supposed to release the handbrake
until the clutch bites (i.e. no freewheeling at any point).

[Note to Rich: heel-and-toe will also cause you to fail. Pedals aren't
supposed to be operated with the heel.]

You take the test with an automatic transmission.

If you do that in the UK, you get a driving licence only allows you to
drive vehicles with automatic transmission. This would be a significant
drawback when 90% of cars (and nearly all vans) have manual transmission,
so very few people do so.