Driver to drive?

Richard Cranium · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dave
<dave_and_darla@Juno.com> wrote:

On May 13, 8:37=A0am, du...@bunghole.com (Richard Cranium) wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:43:03 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote his usual brand of drivel:

Archie:

You can win and achieve the adulatrion you so desperately seek. =A0You
simply take off at full speed running in a right handed helix until
your speed begins to unwind your DNA and you run through your asshole
and turn inside out. =A0THEN, girls will talk to you ... maybe.

adulatrion? What's that?

It's the confusion caused by the extra "r" from another post about
Archie's mental prowess where I spelled "hemmorhoid" (referencing a
potential cause for his frequent headaches) incorrectly. My sincere
apologies to the Mensa crew here. I trust no one has become so upset
that their solution to the world's problems is put on hold.

Martin Brown · May 13, 2009

MooseFET wrote:

On May 13, 1:28 am, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:54:14 GMT, "Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie"
Hip...@example.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:53:10 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
Why do we want to put humans back on the moon?
To build the first of the Stepping Stones to the Galaxy; sort of a "way
station" if you will, with resources fetched from the asteriod belt or
Saturn's rings, whatever. ;-) There's lots of solar energy up there, you
know. ;-)
Geez, switch off Star Trek reruns and do the math. Putting men on Mars
is insane, maybe not possible with current technology. Getting to the
nearest star is a zillion times worse.
I reckon you could put men on Mars with current technology. What
condition they would be in when they landed there is another matter and
getting them back safely would be out of the question. Unless you read
and believe the most optimistic science fiction of the would be Mars
explorer brigade.

All of the problems can be overcome by technology we already have if
you assume a big enough budget.

Although they would be well advised to wear lead underpants and pray
that the solar minimum really does last for the duration of their
mission. They would not enjoy being in a coronal mass ejection. And we
cannot yet adequately shield a spacecraft from fast protons.

Using rotation to make "gravity" requires a large space craft. This
could be assembled in orbit from sections put up by modest rockets.

The bigger and heavier you make it the more expensive in fuel it is to
move into a transfer orbit. Quick transfer orbits are very energy
expensive and slow ones leave you more time to toast your astronauts.
Space is not a benign environment.

Getting enough fuel to return can be solved by sending the return
supplies ahead as an unmanned mission to Mars orbit.

It would make 6 Billion to get to the moon look like chicken feed but
it all could be done if there really was a reason to do it.

If the robotic probes find something interesting enough like independent
life to be worth going for a look see then yes it could be done. But it
is madness to think that it would be easy and the condition of the
astronauts after that length of voyage would be a serious concern.

I would much rather they send robotic probes unless and until they run
into something our technology cannot handle. Robots (at least the space
qualified ones) don't have such high maintainence costs for the journey
and are not as fragile in a cold hard vacuum space environment.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Jim Thompson · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 03:53:41 +0100, Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:23:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Best stick vehicles have a hand brake lever between the seats.

Er ... are you saying that this isn't, like, totally standard on US cars?

How would you pull away uphill without a handbrake?

Most American-made cars have a "Parking Brake", pedal left-most
against the wheel well.

So, how do you pull away uphill (without either having three feet or just
being quick enough not to roll back into the vehicle behind)?

Buy a Nissan with the lever between the two front seats ;-)

Actually, how are you supposed to pull away on the flat? I know that, in
practice, most people just use the footbrake. But if you do that on the UK
driving test, you'll fail; you're not supposed to release the handbrake
until the clutch bites (i.e. no freewheeling at any point).

[Note to Rich: heel-and-toe will also cause you to fail. Pedals aren't
supposed to be operated with the heel.]

VMCM1905 · May 13, 2009

"Richard Cranium" <dufus@bunghole.com> wrote in message
news:4a0ad62d.666380906@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...

On Wed, 13 May 2009 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dave
dave_and_darla@Juno.com> wrote:

On May 13, 8:37=A0am, du...@bunghole.com (Richard Cranium) wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:43:03 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote his usual brand of drivel:

Archie:

You can win and achieve the adulatrion you so desperately seek. =A0You
simply take off at full speed running in a right handed helix until
your speed begins to unwind your DNA and you run through your asshole
and turn inside out. =A0THEN, girls will talk to you ... maybe.

adulatrion? What's that?

It's the confusion caused by the extra "r" from another post about
Archie's mental prowess where I spelled "hemmorhoid" (referencing a
potential cause for his frequent headaches) incorrectly. My sincere
apologies to the Mensa crew here. I trust no one has become so upset
that their solution to the world's problems is put on hold.

Not at all. We have all the time in the world as we plan to force nearly
everybody to do our boring puzzles until they kill themselves. World
population will decrease, more natural resources etc.
If that does not work, we plan on maintaining our master plan of not
procreating (a plan forced on us by our proclivities and demeanor with
woman) and thus dooming the gene pool to severe regression to the mean.
Darwin will then take over with similar results to plan A.

MooseFET · May 13, 2009

On May 13, 1:28 am, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:54:14 GMT, "Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie"
Hip...@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:53:10 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
Why do we want to put humans back on the moon?

To build the first of the Stepping Stones to the Galaxy; sort of a "way
station" if you will, with resources fetched from the asteriod belt or
Saturn's rings, whatever. ;-) There's lots of solar energy up there, you
know. ;-)

Geez, switch off Star Trek reruns and do the math. Putting men on Mars
is insane, maybe not possible with current technology. Getting to the
nearest star is a zillion times worse.

I reckon you could put men on Mars with current technology. What
condition they would be in when they landed there is another matter and
getting them back safely would be out of the question. Unless you read
and believe the most optimistic science fiction of the would be Mars
explorer brigade.

All of the problems can be overcome by technology we already have if
you assume a big enough budget.

Using rotation to make "gravity" requires a large space craft. This
could be assembled in orbit from sections put up by modest rockets.

Getting enough fuel to return can be solved by sending the return
supplies ahead as an unmanned mission to Mars orbit.

It would make 6 Billion to get to the moon look like chicken feed but
it all could be done if there really was a reason to do it.

Kill Bill · May 13, 2009

Oleg Kaizerman wrote:

"
Someone stole my name?

-bill
Robert Ragon sounds familier ?

No it doesn't sound familiar.

-bill

Dave · May 13, 2009

On May 13, 8:37 am, du...@bunghole.com (Richard Cranium) wrote:

On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:43:03 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote his usual brand of drivel:

Archie:

You can win and achieve the adulatrion you so desperately seek. You
simply take off at full speed running in a right handed helix until
your speed begins to unwind your DNA and you run through your asshole
and turn inside out. THEN, girls will talk to you ... maybe.

adulatrion? What's that?

Oleg Kaizerman · May 13, 2009

strange, as you are sharing same IP address and same house in the
neighborhood: from which where sent emails directly to me

strange

you guys need to catch each other one day , might be fun

"Kill Bill" <killbill@goblowme.com> wrote in message
news:TYBOl.29155$yr3.25228@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...

Oleg Kaizerman wrote:
"
Someone stole my name?

-bill
Robert Ragon sounds familier ?

No it doesn't sound familiar.

-bill

Rich Grise · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:46:05 -0700, Tim Shoppa wrote:

On May 13, 9:10 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2009-05-10, DaveC <m...@bogusdomain.net> wrote:

http://www.insultab.com/hs105.pdf

Thanks for that.

Dielectric strength listed as 1083 vpm. What's vpm? Volts per mm? Mil?

and how did they get 4 siginificant figures for that datum?

I think it's like the tourist maps where they tell you the distance to
a landmark is 3.7282 miles (6 km) away.

They tried metricizing road signs over here, and they made signs with
things like "Speed limit 55 MPH/88.513 KPH" and "Exit Lane 1/4 mi./
..402 KM"

Have you ever noticed those top-posted things painted on the roadway?

AHEAD
SIGNAL

XING
PED

ONLY
TURN
RIGHT

Well, that last one kinda works either way around... ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Rich Grise · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 07:13:40 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:48:38 -0700, John Larkin
Seeing as how this is not Highland.../www.kentech.co.uk/mission.html Cheers! Rich

GregS · May 13, 2009

In article <pan.2009.05.13.20.35.22.385403@example.net>, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:46:05 -0700, Tim Shoppa wrote:
On May 13, 9:10 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2009-05-10, DaveC <m...@bogusdomain.net> wrote:

http://www.insultab.com/hs105.pdf

Thanks for that.

Dielectric strength listed as 1083 vpm. What's vpm? Volts per mm? Mil?

and how did they get 4 siginificant figures for that datum?

I think it's like the tourist maps where they tell you the distance to
a landmark is 3.7282 miles (6 km) away.

They tried metricizing road signs over here, and they made signs with
things like "Speed limit 55 MPH/88.513 KPH" and "Exit Lane 1/4 mi./
..402 KM"

Have you ever noticed those top-posted things painted on the roadway?

AHEAD
SIGNAL

XING
PED

ONLY
TURN
RIGHT

I recall some markings for aircraft. That would worry you.

Heres some more

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/SNqDo999_xI/AAAAAAAATds/ASvF2z_kB5Q/s400/Peter_Gibson_Road_Art_01.jpg

http://www.freefoto.com/images/41/04/41_04_80---30-mph-speed-limit-road-markings_web.jpg

http://www.lewislining.co.uk/newpicssupplied/flash350x250/home%20page5%20road%20marking.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/SNqC-W-GhxI/AAAAAAAATdM/XlbQk4M1Gmw/s400/Peter_Gibson_Road_Art_04.jpg

http://myfunnycoolpics.blogspot.com/2008/09/unusual-road-marking-street-art-by.html

Lostgallifreyan · May 13, 2009

Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net> wrote in
news

an.2009.05.13.20.35.22.385403@example.net:

They tried metricizing road signs over here, and they made signs with
things like "Speed limit 55 MPH/88.513 KPH" and "Exit Lane 1/4 mi./
.402 KM"

That wasn't trying, that was trying not to. >

Tim Shoppa · May 13, 2009

On May 13, 9:10 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2009-05-10, DaveC <m...@bogusdomain.net> wrote:

http://www.insultab.com/hs105.pdf

Thanks for that.

Dielectric strength listed as 1083 vpm. What's vpm? Volts per mm? Mil?

and how did they get 4 siginificant figures for that datum?

I think it's like the tourist maps where they tell you the distance to
a landmark is 3.7282 miles (6 km) away.

Tim.

Jon Kirwan · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:03:45 -0700 (PDT), mj <elucify@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm replying to myself here because I have a solution that works for
the moment.

It seems that it was enough to just have no current-limiting resistor
in the collector. We'll see how that goes with 12 LEDs; I may yet have
to get a low output impedance cap to avoid flicker.

Here's a short video demonstrating what I have so far on my breadboard
with this project:
http://sn.im/datastrobe1

Thanks to all who responded.

--Mark

Thanks, Mark. That was really great in terms of letting me see
exactly what you are doing. That disk almost looks like those ink jet
printable dvd disks I've seen.

My wife didn't understand the video, at first. I had to add more
explanations to get her to accept that it wasn't just shining a
flashlight on a wheel with letters on it. Part of her distraction
about that was due to the time you spent talking about the IR LED,
which made her think that you thought it was the main attraction when
it was just part of the mechanism you wanted to highlight but wasn't
the feature attraction. I explained it more, then she got it. I
particularly just added the idea of a car's timing light. Then it was
much clearer to her.

Her immediate jump was then towards using this NOT for displaying
letters but instead for doing animation -- she draws cartoons and is a
writer. As a toy device, she thinks that this would be far more
interesting than just some character output device, which really
doesn't get her attention nearly as much.

You are probably already familiar with drawing stick figure cartoons
on the margins of a book and then flipping the pages to see the
action. A huge difference that this kind of device contributes to
something so low-tech is that the series of images are laid out on the
perimeter do NOT have to be seen in the same sequence. In other
words, a set of ... say, 50 images ... can be played in a wide variety
of ways, allowing not just one "story" or two, but a great many
different ways of being played out. Not all the same length of time,
either. In the end, a lot could be done. Even a game, perhaps, that
plays out differently with different people making different choices
in order to impact the way it proceeds.

It __may__ even be possible, with additional thinking, to consider
allowing end-users to do their own images -- even hand-drawn on those
dvds I mentioned -- with feedback coming from timing marks they also
draw on the perimeter edge with a pen. Some means of adjusting those
marks (making them wider and using the center, perhaps, allowing them
to go either way in adjusting the timing?) might allow them to "fix
up" what they are doing until it looks pretty good. Okay, practice
will help, too. But it might be fun. How to specify transition
orders might be a problem. Just thinking right now, that's another
issue perhaps.

Anyway, some neo-gaming possibilities are suggested.

Jon

Rich the Philosophizer · May 13, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:26:19 -0700, D from BC wrote:

Show me proof for Noah's arc and I'll show you proof that all animals
didn't come from the same spot.

I don't have to. I don't make any claims about Noah's ark.

You're the one who is wildly, stridently proclaiming that there couldn't
possibly be any Power Greater Than Yourself, and demanding "scientific
proof" of "fairy tales" from those who believe otherwise.

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

Thanks,
Rich

mj · May 13, 2009

I'm replying to myself here because I have a solution that works for
the moment.

It seems that it was enough to just have no current-limiting resistor
in the collector. We'll see how that goes with 12 LEDs; I may yet have
to get a low output impedance cap to avoid flicker.

Here's a short video demonstrating what I have so far on my breadboard
with this project:
http://sn.im/datastrobe1

Thanks to all who responded.

--Mark

John Larkin · May 13, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 19:53:30 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 07:13:40 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:48:38 -0700, John Larkin
Seeing as how this is not Highland...y are both a customer and a competitor. John

Vladimir Vassilevsky · May 14, 2009

John Larkin wrote:

http://www.kentech.co.uk/index.html?/&2

LOL. I guess it depends on who are their customers. There are quite many
people who would consider this mission statement offensive.

Vladimir Vassilevsky
DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
http://www.abvolt.com

D from BC · May 14, 2009

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:24 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
<philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:26:19 -0700, D from BC wrote:

Show me proof for Noah's arc and I'll show you proof that all animals
didn't come from the same spot.

I don't have to. I don't make any claims about Noah's ark.

Best not too.. Noah's evidence is so thin that the existence for Darth
Vader is better.

You're the one who is wildly, stridently proclaiming that there couldn't
possibly be any Power Greater Than Yourself, and demanding "scientific
proof" of "fairy tales" from those who believe otherwise.

Yes, I do claim there's no quasihyperhomosapienGod based on the
scientific evidence.
Yes, I do demand people to prove their fairy tales.

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

Thanks,
Rich

And Noah has once again made someone resort to pie hole dipstick name
calling..

Religion is division.

Noah sucks..and there's no evidence.

D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design

Paul Hovnanian P.E. · May 14, 2009

Rich Grise wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:59:49 -0800, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

hills needn't be bad on the clutch in a manual transmission if you
match match the engine speed before engaging the clutch.

Match the engine speed with what? Zero RPM?

You've got to know your vehicle. Where the clutch engages and what
minimum throttle is required to provide adequate torque (without
scorching the clutch).

I was once driving a friend's car that was new to me - it had a stick,
which I know how to use. I had to stop on a fairly steep slope. Some time
previous to this, I had read about "heel-and-toe braking"; race car
drivers use it sometimes; you do the clutch with your left foot, put your
right heel on the brake, and your right toe on the gas. Brake engaged,
clutch disengaged; modulate the gas and the clutch such that enough torque
is reaching the wheels so you can release the brake, slowly. I was amazed
how well it worked! Didn't roll back at all, and didn't burn out the
clutch!

Better yet, a parking brake that's easy to reach. My Porsche has a
handle just to the left of the driver (between the seat and the door).
Just drop your left hand down and hold the car with it.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto

aul@Hovnanian.com
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