Driver to drive?

Rich Grise · May 12, 2009

On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:59:49 -0800, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

Jasen Betts wrote:

hills needn't be bad on the clutch in a manual transmission if you
match match the engine speed before engaging the clutch.

Match the engine speed with what? Zero RPM?

You've got to know your vehicle. Where the clutch engages and what
minimum throttle is required to provide adequate torque (without
scorching the clutch).

I was once driving a friend's car that was new to me - it had a stick,
which I know how to use. I had to stop on a fairly steep slope. Some time
previous to this, I had read about "heel-and-toe braking"; race car
drivers use it sometimes; you do the clutch with your left foot, put your
right heel on the brake, and your right toe on the gas. Brake engaged,
clutch disengaged; modulate the gas and the clutch such that enough torque
is reaching the wheels so you can release the brake, slowly. I was amazed
how well it worked! Didn't roll back at all, and didn't burn out the
clutch!

Cheers!
Rich

Rich Grise · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 04:20:48 +0000, DAVID GREENE wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
RichD wrote:

Why is it, on paper currency the portrait is full
face, while on coins, it's profile?

Noses stick out in metal.

[Sigh] I guess we'll never have Dolly Parton on a coin then.

Didn't they once have a topless lady on the quarter?

Look for the "Standing Liberty" half-dollar, and try "Walking Liberty"
as well.

If you find one, give us a link!

Good Luck!
Rich

Rich the Philosophizer · May 12, 2009

On Mon, 11 May 2009 13:03:24 -0700, D from BC wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:35 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer

What exactly is it about you that makes it so important to you to
convince everyone that atheism is "The Truth"?

Ohhh nooo.. Are you seeing leprechauns?

You're STILL evading the question:

What, exactly, is it that makes you react so venomously to
any mention of anything outside your personal box? How does
it break your bones or steal your money when somebody
mention something you don't like?

Is your faith in the religion of atheism really that fragile?

Thanks,
Rich

Rich Grise · May 12, 2009

On Mon, 11 May 2009 22:10:55 +0000, Richard Cranium wrote:

I note your fascination with "dick" and "bone" in the same sentence.

Why does this not surprise me?

Thanks,
Rich

May 12, 2009

On May 7, 8:25 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
wherever fine electronics is sold.

Please don't feed the 'radium' troll.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Is Green Xenon an allotrope like Red Phosphorus, Gray Selenium, Yellow
Antimony and Black Arsenic?

Michael

Rich Grise · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:56:01 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:

"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> writes:
I still have some wirewrap kit. Ain't ready to let go yet. Actually
used it a few years ago.

I still have my wirewrap tools and wire, and use them on nearly every
project. Wire wrap wire makes good vias and ECO wire

I used wirewrap wire almost exclusively for prototyping, and solder-tag
sockets. I filed the rivet off a WSU-30M cutter blade, and clamped the
blade into an X-acto handle; I could make pre-stripped daisy chain wires.
;-)

Cheers!
Rich

D from BC · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 18:39:15 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
<philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 13:03:24 -0700, D from BC wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:35 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer

What exactly is it about you that makes it so important to you to
convince everyone that atheism is "The Truth"?

Ohhh nooo.. Are you seeing leprechauns?

You're STILL evading the question:

What, exactly, is it that makes you react so venomously to
any mention of anything outside your personal box? How does
it break your bones or steal your money when somebody
mention something you don't like?

I don't like lies. Especially lies that are illegal to tag as lies.

Is your faith in the religion of atheism really that fragile?

Thanks,
Rich

I suppose you think the scientific evidence that supports a world not
created by peoplepopperGod is fragile...

D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design

Sjouke Burry · May 12, 2009

mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:

On May 7, 8:25 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
wherever fine electronics is sold.
Please don't feed the 'radium' troll.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Is Green Xenon an allotrope like Red Phosphorus, Gray Selenium, Yellow
Antimony and Black Arsenic?

Michael
Nah more like luminous shit, or radiant vomit, or manure lightning....

Raveninghorde · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 11:07:21 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

On May 12, 11:40 am, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

No Wikipedia contributor has bothered to keep the graph up to date.
Therefore the data is duff and shows Wikipedia is not a reliable
source on this topic.

The graph is perfectly adequate in its context; it would be nice if
somebody updated it, but it wouldn't make any difference to the
message it conveys to the reader, any more than the extra year or two
of data that you want to push make any difference to the message I am
trying to get across.

As far as paranoid rants go, you are exhibiting a thoroughly demented
drive to emphasise the current global cooling, despite the fact that
it is too small - and as yet too short-lived - to need to be seen as
anything more that the usual noise on the global temperature record.

You and Eeyore both go out of your way to exhibit your total lack of
judgment in this area, but then again you both seem to have this
enthusiasm for recycling bogus "evidence" from denialist web-sites,
which is presumably deliberately presented in a form that sucks in the
feeble-minded who need the feeling of superiority they get by being
privy to some fatuous conspiracy theory that the rest of the world
finds mildly comic.

Bill, you are right, I'm slow to learn and rarely rely on other
peoples judgement. Responding to you is a waste of time. At long last
I'm taking Jim's advice.

You are a plonker.

PLONK

Michael A. Terrell · May 12, 2009

mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:

On May 7, 8:25 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
wherever fine electronics is sold.

Please don't feed the 'radium' troll.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Is Green Xenon an allotrope like Red Phosphorus, Gray Selenium, Yellow
Antimony and Black Arsenic?

Michael

Green Xenon is a sock puppet of the 'Radium' troll. Not worth wasting
time on.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/

Robert Baer · May 12, 2009

Archimedes' Lever wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 13:53:53 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com
wrote:

...for example, M$ "applications"

You are an "M$" retard! Any dope that jumped on that stupid bandwagon
is. You are one such dope.
Lemme see...since at least XP, there has been this enforced on-line

registration and other hoop-jumping that required some personal info and
a LOT of computer-specific info that LOCKS the app to that computer.
Granted that some of that locking has been modified, but the info is
STILL gathered - by a means that is suspiciously close (identical?) to
methods used by virii.
And do not forget the fact that some M$ apps actively modify and
sometimes reject other apps....

Rich Grise · May 12, 2009

On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:06:29 -0600, Virgil wrote:

In article <pan.2009.05.11.22.00.23.205719@example.net>,

I don't get the NY times here. Could you transcribe the problem
here? (I'm at s.e.design, but crossposting to all of the above.)

SEE
http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/jimmy-carters-killer-rabbit-puzzle/

Thanks!

Rich

Robert Baer · May 12, 2009

DAVID GREENE wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Uncle Al wrote:

RichD wrote:

Why is it, on paper currency the portrait is full
face, while on coins, it's profile?

Noses stick out in metal.

[Sigh] I guess we'll never have Dolly Parton on a coin then.

Didn't they once have a topless lady on the quarter?

Dave Greene

Yup! Created a rukus then...

Robert Baer · May 12, 2009

Rich the Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 13:03:24 -0700, D from BC wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:35 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer

What exactly is it about you that makes it so important to you to
convince everyone that atheism is "The Truth"?

Ohhh nooo.. Are you seeing leprechauns?

You're STILL evading the question:

What, exactly, is it that makes you react so venomously to
any mention of anything outside your personal box? How does
it break your bones or steal your money when somebody
mention something you don't like?

Is your faith in the religion of atheism really that fragile?

Thanks,
Rich

???? Isn't that a contradiction? "Faith" in the RELIGION of atheism???

Nobody · May 12, 2009

On Sun, 10 May 2009 07:30:25 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Best stick vehicles have a hand brake lever between the seats.

Er ... are you saying that this isn't, like, totally standard on US cars?

How would you pull away uphill without a handbrake?

May 12, 2009

On May 12, 11:40 am, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:26:28 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 6:10 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 08:05:42 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 2:56 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 4:32 am, "Andrew" <andyv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Instrumental_Temperature_Record..png

The data present there reflects real measurements, not models. The
most plausible explanation of the increase - an increasing greenhouse
effect driven by rising concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere - does
rely on layered models of the atmosphere to describe what's going on,
but that's what physics is about.
============================
Funny, how temperature does not correlate with changes in hydrocarbon use.

- How much CO2 was generated by humanity in 1920 vs 1980? Temperature slope.
- What is the reason of the temeprature drop between 1940 and 1970 despite
rising use of hydrocarbon?

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2008/06/06/solarvsco2.jpg

The usual explanation is sulphur dioxide pollution from burning high-
sulphur oil, which also caused acid rain. Once we went over to
scrubbing the SO2 out of the chimney stacks of dirty-oil fired power
stations, acid rain went away, and with it the aerosols high in the
atmosphere which had been raising the earth's albedo and cooling the
planet.

Some people have also pointed the finger at the North Atlantic
Multidecadal Oscillation, which seems to have been in a cooling phase
back then, and may be in another such cooling phase at the moment.

A slightly longer temperature sequence puts your - cherry-picked -
data in context

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

where one can see that the 1940 to 1980 feature is just a wiggle in a
longer term rising trend.

And up to date data that puts your cherry picked data in context:

http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/comparison.html-Hidequoted text -

An extra year or two of data changes the message?

"The lady dost protest too much, methinks."

It does seem to take a lot of protest to register on your impermeable
self-satisfaction.

You said "A slightly longer temperature sequence puts your -
cherry-picked - data in context." And link to a graph from 1880 to
about 2005, 125 years.

If I remember rightly, the curve I was objecting to

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2008/06/06/solarvsco2.jpg

Which goes from 1870 to 2000, a 130 years. You clearly objected to the
graph running out too soon. I provided a graph from 1850 to 2008, 158
years which is clearly a better timescale.

And distinctly different data. The problem with your graph which
purports to associate Artic air temperatures with solar activity was
that it got the more recent Arctic air temperatures wrong, and the
authors were forced to correct it.

Your graph is chosen because it peaks at the end.

My graph was chosen because it comes from the Wikipedia article on
global warming, and can be expected to have been corrected by anybody
who detected it to be in error. Your experience of a pulling a duff
graph fron denialist web-site should have alerted you to the
advantages of this approach.

No Wikipedia contributor has bothered to keep the graph up to date.
Therefore the data is duff and shows Wikipedia is not a reliable
source on this topic.

The graph is perfectly adequate in its context; it would be nice if
somebody updated it, but it wouldn't make any difference to the
message it conveys to the reader, any more than the extra year or two
of data that you want to push make any difference to the message I am
trying to get across.

As far as paranoid rants go, you are exhibiting a thoroughly demented
drive to emphasise the current global cooling, despite the fact that
it is too small - and as yet too short-lived - to need to be seen as
anything more that the usual noise on the global temperature record.

You and Eeyore both go out of your way to exhibit your total lack of
judgment in this area, but then again you both seem to have this
enthusiasm for recycling bogus "evidence" from denialist web-sites,
which is presumably deliberately presented in a form that sucks in the
feeble-minded who need the feeling of superiority they get by being
privy to some fatuous conspiracy theory that the rest of the world
finds mildly comic.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

May 12, 2009

On May 12, 5:23 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Raveninghorde wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:26:28 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 6:10 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 08:05:42 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 2:56 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On May 11, 4:32 am, "Andrew" <andyv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

The data present there reflects real measurements, not models. The
most plausible explanation of the increase - an increasing greenhouse
effect driven by rising concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere - does
rely on layered models of the atmosphere to describe what's going on,
but that's what physics is about.
============================
Funny, how temperature does not correlate with changes in hydrocarbon use.

- How much CO2 was generated by humanity in 1920 vs 1980? Temperature slope.
- What is the reason of the temeprature drop between 1940 and 1970 despite
rising use of hydrocarbon?

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2008/06/06/solarvsco2.jpg

The usual explanation is sulphur dioxide pollution from burning high-
sulphur oil, which also caused acid rain. Once we went over to
scrubbing the SO2 out of the chimney stacks of dirty-oil fired power
stations, acid rain went away, and with it the aerosols high in the
atmosphere which had been raising the earth's albedo and cooling the
planet.

Some people have also pointed the finger at the North Atlantic
Multidecadal Oscillation, which seems to have been in a cooling phase
back then, and may be in another such cooling phase at the moment.

A slightly longer temperature sequence puts your - cherry-picked -
data in context

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

where one can see that the 1940 to 1980 feature is just a wiggle in a
longer term rising trend.

And up to date data that puts your cherry picked data in context:

http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/comparison.html-Hidequoted text -

An extra year or two of data changes the message?

"The lady dost protest too much, methinks."

It does seem to take a lot of protest to register on your impermeable
self-satisfaction.

You said "A slightly longer temperature sequence puts your -
cherry-picked - data in context." And link to a graph from 1880 to
about 2005, 125 years.

If I remember rightly, the curve I was objecting to

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2008/06/06/solarvsco2.jpg

Which goes from 1870 to 2000, a 130 years. You clearly objected to the
graph running out too soon. I provided a graph from 1850 to 2008, 158
years which is clearly a better timescale.

And distinctly different data. The problem with your graph which
purports to associate Artic air temperatures with solar activity was
that it got the more recent Arctic air temperatures wrong, and the
authors were forced to correct it.

Your graph is chosen because it peaks at the end.

My graph was chosen because it comes from the Wikipedia article on
global warming, and can be expected to have been corrected by anybody
who detected it to be in error. Your experience of a pulling a duff
graph fron denialist web-site should have alerted you to the
advantages of this approach.

No Wikipedia contributor has bothered to keep the graph up to date.
Therefore the data is duff and shows Wikipedia is not a reliable
source on this topic.

Indeed I have heard that one senior Wikipedia editor is so pro-AGW that he will protect > duff data.

Probably suffers from a chronic case of scientific education, which
prevents him from sharing your opinion that the data is duff.

Have you found out anything about the Suess Effect yet, or is your
mind still free of any of that dangerous kind of knowledge that would
prevent you from having complete faith in the authroity of your
favourite denialist web-sites?

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Jim Thompson · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 21:07:20 +0100, Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2009 07:30:25 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Best stick vehicles have a hand brake lever between the seats.

Er ... are you saying that this isn't, like, totally standard on US cars?

How would you pull away uphill without a handbrake?

Richard Cranium · May 12, 2009

On Tue, 12 May 2009 18:39:54 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 22:10:55 +0000, Richard Cranium wrote:

I note your fascination with "dick" and "bone" in the same sentence.

Why does this not surprise me?

Thanks,
Rich

Why does "what" not surprise you? Obviously you are referring to the

fact that you are not surprised that you used "dick" and "bone" in the
same sentence?

I know why you are not surprised. It neither suprised me nor was it
expected as my information concerning you is limited to what you post
herein. You, on the other hand, have perfect information about the
fact that you are a poop-pushing-porker; hence you are absolutely not
surprised. Please refer to yourself to answer these types of questions
in the future.

Soundhaspriority · May 12, 2009

<kaizero1@gmail.com> wrote in message gua41c$idn$1@localhost.localdomain

Maybe it would help if you used your real name, and not one stolen from
another person perhaps?
and what about U?

What are you talking about? Robert Morein IS my real name!

http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/

"I don't really have a replacement career, it's a very gnawing thing."

Robert Morein
Dresher, PA
(310) 237-6511
(215) 646-4894

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