Driver to drive?

T · Apr 11, 2009

In article <3evst4p58hvsg2b3gcrjlf2u157r4djhrk@4ax.com>,
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org says...

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:43:03 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

http://www.mininova.org/search/excel/2

Smith charts... everything.

Better get the new, modern AWESOME Office 2007 package though.

Or wait and see if there is a 2k8 release. They ARE worth it, since
they have made HUGE strides in it since the 2003 release.

Or better yet, skip MS and do OpenOffice. I finally figured out a work
around to the broken Mail Merge Wizard in Oo3.0.1. You can't let the
wizard do the layout.

StickThatInYourPipeAndSmo · Apr 11, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

StickThatInYourPipeAndSmo · Apr 11, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:26:00 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

Or better yet, skip MS and do OpenOffice.

You're an idiot. OO cannot even open excel spreadsheets without
changing them. Sure... they can open them, but they are in now way what
they claim as to being MS compliant, which they do.

I finally figured out a work
around to the broken Mail Merge Wizard in Oo3.0.1. You can't let the
wizard do the layout.

Yet 'wizard boy' wants us all to think his opinions on what to use are
'pro'. You are an office suite infant, at best with that mentality.

You prove that you never saw or utilized any of the advanced features
of the MS product or you would know that the OO product doesn't come
anywhere close. Hell, even Star Office came closer than that.

You will look more credible if you leave the reference to the use of
wizards out of your opinions in the future.

Bwuahahahaha!

T · Apr 12, 2009

In article <ij52u4pofh8ks5blutg3sdi70gova7lkg4@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:26:00 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

Or better yet, skip MS and do OpenOffice.

You're an idiot. OO cannot even open excel spreadsheets without
changing them. Sure... they can open them, but they are in now way what
they claim as to being MS compliant, which they do.

I finally figured out a work
around to the broken Mail Merge Wizard in Oo3.0.1. You can't let the
wizard do the layout.

Yet 'wizard boy' wants us all to think his opinions on what to use are
'pro'. You are an office suite infant, at best with that mentality.

You prove that you never saw or utilized any of the advanced features
of the MS product or you would know that the OO product doesn't come
anywhere close. Hell, even Star Office came closer than that.

You will look more credible if you leave the reference to the use of
wizards out of your opinions in the future.

Bwuahahahaha!

Oh really. Ask me about the routines I wrote in VBA for Excel, Word and
Access. They did such things as manipulate UPC codes to calculate check
digits, etc. Or separate nutrient information into another worksheet.

I do like Oo though since it will push MS to make a better product. Oo
has it's pitfalls though. I'm not very happy with Base, but it does the
trick for 99% of the people who'd use t.

T · Apr 12, 2009

In article <4i52u4l2pq7rh6c9k64uqbbaqkni4olfls@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

Never heard of a range. 2000 to 2007 would include Office XP, and Office
2003.

You're obviously a Microsoft lapdog.

krw · Apr 12, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:03:27 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
wrote:

In article <4i52u4l2pq7rh6c9k64uqbbaqkni4olfls@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

Never heard of a range. 2000 to 2007 would include Office XP, and Office
2003.

You're obviously a Microsoft lapdog.

DimBulb certainly is a M$ lapdog, though not housebroken.

Archimedes' Lever · Apr 12, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:02:37 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <ij52u4pofh8ks5blutg3sdi70gova7lkg4@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:26:00 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

Or better yet, skip MS and do OpenOffice.

You're an idiot. OO cannot even open excel spreadsheets without
changing them. Sure... they can open them, but they are in now way what
they claim as to being MS compliant, which they do.

I finally figured out a work
around to the broken Mail Merge Wizard in Oo3.0.1. You can't let the
wizard do the layout.

Yet 'wizard boy' wants us all to think his opinions on what to use are
'pro'. You are an office suite infant, at best with that mentality.

You prove that you never saw or utilized any of the advanced features
of the MS product or you would know that the OO product doesn't come
anywhere close. Hell, even Star Office came closer than that.

You will look more credible if you leave the reference to the use of
wizards out of your opinions in the future.

Bwuahahahaha!

Oh really. Ask me about the routines I wrote in VBA for Excel, Word and
Access. They did such things as manipulate UPC codes to calculate check
digits, etc. Or separate nutrient information into another worksheet.

Oh boy! Bar code routines. I'm impressed. Any UID types? They are a
lot of fun. Still down in the petty realm though.

I do like Oo though since it will push MS to make a better product.

It's the other way around. The MS product is more advanced, so if
anything, MS pushes Oo to make a better, more compliant product, but they
have not yet, nor will they ever get there.

Oo
has it's pitfalls though.

Yes, like failure to provide the claimed 100% office compatible label
they tag on their crap.

I'm not very happy with Base, but it does the
trick for 99% of the people who'd use t.

That is because 99% of spreadsheet users are really looking for Lotus

123 level tables. Big deal. There are several tens of packages out
there that can do Lotus 123 level spreadsheets.

Archimedes' Lever · Apr 12, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:03:27 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <4i52u4l2pq7rh6c9k64uqbbaqkni4olfls@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

Never heard of a range. 2000 to 2007 would include Office XP, and Office
2003.

Yes, I have. I have also heard of context, and in the context of your
remark, it was worded such that it appeared that you were mentioning only
two. It still does, so it is your fault for wording your statement like
the retarded twit that you are.

You're obviously a Microsoft lapdog.

You're obviously yet another 100% retarded Usenet twit. That remark
alone proves it, bandwagon boy. The spaced off exclamation points proves
how stupid you are.

Archimedes' Lever · Apr 12, 2009

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:30:44 -0500, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:03:27 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net
wrote:

In article <4i52u4l2pq7rh6c9k64uqbbaqkni4olfls@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

Never heard of a range. 2000 to 2007 would include Office XP, and Office
2003.

You're obviously a Microsoft lapdog.

DimBulb certainly is a M$ lapdog, though not housebroken.

Considering that all ten of my computers are multi-boot machines, and
one even has BeOs and a couple other OSes on it, and one is an Alpha, and
one is an old powerMac, I'd say that once again, you prove just how full
of shit you are, KEITH WILLIAMS. KEITH WILLIAMS is a TOTAL RETARD.

Considering that the machines right here in the house have more Linux OS
distros installed onto them that Windows OSes, I'd say that you prove yet
again, just how full of horseshit you are, krw. Hell, one of them
doesn't run windows at all. It runs XMB and Gentoo Linux, you fucking
total retard!

Michael A. Terrell · Apr 13, 2009

krw wrote:

DimBulb certainly is a M$ lapdog, though not housebroken.

He never will be. He enjoys humping Bill Garte's leg WAY too much.

--
And another motherboard bites the dust!

Lynn · Apr 13, 2009

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Wd2dnWhwL-p8Pn_UnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlink.com...

krw wrote:

DimBulb certainly is a M$ lapdog, though not housebroken.

He never will be. He enjoys humping Bill Garte's leg WAY too much.

--
And another motherboard bites the dust!

You too could be humping somebody's leg yourself, if you could afford to pay
Allison a quarter.

legg · Apr 13, 2009

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:42:02 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Ouch, 300,000 new headers to wade through.

RL

Only need to sort by date and look at (search through)the top 200 or so.

Jeez. does every computer user in the world need their hand held OVER
and OVER again to understand basic maneuvers on a PC?

Agent takes a long time to negotiate and absorb this initial load from
the server - more than 15 minutes, if I recall correctly. After it has
done so, dropping the outdated sections is no problem.

There wasn't a way of telling it to ignore anything more than x-days
old, last time I looked.

It's usually more trouble than just one thread is worth, but then,
some people do seem to have an excessive amount of time on their
hands....

RL

krw · Apr 13, 2009

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:16:13 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:30:44 -0500, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:03:27 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net
wrote:

In article <4i52u4l2pq7rh6c9k64uqbbaqkni4olfls@4ax.com>,
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org says...

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <g7ust4l3pk18n6inj0gl744gbcp6j83dng@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:31:10 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:l6bst49n1b7ufkfpgo1mmkl6pnmemrvlj0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just
like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my
way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is
the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY
annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Jim, Could you E-mail me a copy? Thanks!

Just the code or the annotation too? Either one you wish. I'll be back
home Sunday.

Jim

With the annotation. I'm just now learning to use Excel's more
advanced features myself... trying my hand at behavioral modeling of
systems... after years of trivial use ;-)

...Jim Thompson

The power of all Microsoft Office applications is their VBA interface.
It essentially is Visual BASIC, pretty easy. They did throw a slight
curve ball going from 2000 to 2007 but the references are now ! instead
of . noted.

Idiot. 2003 came between that.

Never heard of a range. 2000 to 2007 would include Office XP, and Office
2003.

You're obviously a Microsoft lapdog.

DimBulb certainly is a M$ lapdog, though not housebroken.

Considering that all ten of my computers are multi-boot machines, and
one even has BeOs and a couple other OSes on it, and one is an Alpha, and
one is an old powerMac, I'd say that once again, you prove just how full
of shit you are, KEITH WILLIAMS. KEITH WILLIAMS is a TOTAL RETARD.

Aw, DimBulb remembered my name. I think he likes me. Nice puppy. No!
Bad Dimmie! No humping the leg! You're *NOT* my type!

Considering that the machines right here in the house have more Linux OS
distros installed onto them that Windows OSes, I'd say that you prove yet
again, just how full of horseshit you are, krw. Hell, one of them
doesn't run windows at all. It runs XMB and Gentoo Linux, you fucking
total retard!

Doesn't change the fact that you're BillyG's bottom.

Archimedes' Lever · Apr 15, 2009

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:35:29 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:42:02 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:32:07 -0700, "RST Engineering $jw$"
jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I posted to microsoft.public.excel.programming and
microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions without getting a single
response. However, Archimedes posted me code yesterday that works just like
I want it to, although it wasn't the way I was thinking about it to start
with.

I'd sort of like to take the code line by line and see if I can work my way
through it to understand a little bit more than when I started. Here is the
whole code and I'll annotate it with '* to indicate that it is MY annotation
and not the author's. I'll do that over in the newsgroup
microsoft.public.excel.programming. Thanks to all for the help.

Ouch, 300,000 new headers to wade through.

RL

Only need to sort by date and look at (search through)the top 200 or so.

Jeez. does every computer user in the world need their hand held OVER
and OVER again to understand basic maneuvers on a PC?

Agent takes a long time to negotiate and absorb this initial load from
the server - more than 15 minutes, if I recall correctly. After it has
done so, dropping the outdated sections is no problem.

You can direct Agent to only SAMPLE headers, and tell it like 10,000,
and to update the list afterward. Then, it only gets the most recent 10k
headers, and NEVER tries to get the full bucket again.

There wasn't a way of telling it to ignore anything more than x-days
old, last time I looked.

There are a few options, but I do not know if it parses that way any
longer.

It's usually more trouble than just one thread is worth, but then,
some people do seem to have an excessive amount of time on their
hands....

Most folks here come every day, and that means that most folks on
Usenet are dopes passing extra time.

Bob Larter · Apr 15, 2009

Jim Thompson wrote:

Accessing News While Traveling...

Does Agent install anything in the Registry?

Agent does not keep any of its own settings in the Registry. The
installer
places un/install info, and if Agent is configured to be the default
client
for anything, that is set in the Registry, because that is a system
setting.

The question has come up as to whether you could carry Agent with you
on a zip-drive and just plug into another's PC when wanting to access
a news server.
Possible?

Absolutely. If you're using a large enough portable drive device. I'd
recommend either a USB thumb drive or portable hard drive, rather than
a
ZIP drive.

You can learn how to configure a different database location in the
Help
file. Help \ Index \ Directories and file types.

Yep. Also, all that stuff is configured in the agent.ini file, the
format of which is very well documented in the help file. It's very easy
to configure Agent to be portable.
The one thing that could be an issue is that when it's configured for
offline use, the data files for busy newsgroups can get very big, so you
need to keep a close eye on how much space is left on the device.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Charlie E. · Apr 17, 2009

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:29:51 -0700, dplatt@radagast.org (Dave Platt)
wrote:

In article <pilgrim-AB916B.05415017042009@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
Pilgrim <pilgrim@noemail.net> wrote:

Tin has a much lower conductivity than copper, and as RF travels on
the surface of a conductor, it would attenuate RF and high frequency AC

Is that why most, but not all, teflon insulated wire was silver plated?

My understanding is that the Teflon-insulated wire uses silverplating
for a couple of reasons, related to the high melting point of Teflon
(and thus the high temperatures to which the wire is exposed when the
Teflon is melt-extruded onto the conductors).

The old-standard tin/lead tinning material can't be used in this
high-temperature environment, as it would be melted by the heat of the
Teflon extrusion, and would fuse a stranded-conductor wire into an
inflexible single strand.

Not tinning or plating the wire would leave the surface of the copper
exposed to high temperatures during the extrusion... I suspect that it
would oxidize (if there's any free oxygen in that environment... dunno
about that) or might react with the polymer. Even if it didn't react
at that time, oxygen would infiltrate the wire at the cut end (albeit
slowly) and the last few inches of the wire might end up with a
significant amount of copper oxide on the conducter surface.

Silver-plating protects the copper from oxidation (I gather that
silver oxide is somewhat easier for fluxes to deal with?) and the
silver doesn't melt at the Teflon extrusion temperature.

I don't believe that the silver plating is thick enough to give the
wire a significant conductivity advantage over pure copper, even at RF
frequencies.

And, IIRC, silver oxide is still a decent conductor...

Charlie

Phil Allison · Apr 18, 2009

"Charlie E."

I don't believe that the silver plating is thick enough to give the
wire a significant conductivity advantage over pure copper, even at RF
frequencies.

And, IIRC, silver oxide is still a decent conductor...

** Shame it does not exist on silver metal in normal circumstances.

The dark tarnish seen on silver is silver sulphide ( Ag2S ) and has a very
high resistance.

...... Phil

..

Jan Panteltje · Apr 20, 2009

On a sunny day (Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:08:32 +0100) it happened Allus Smith
<allus_smith@com.com> wrote in <Xns9BF3D71256976628D1@news.albasani.net>:

All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how crummy too
much American industrial design is.

Some US industrial design looks great but some looks downright,
well, Russian.

Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too but
there's a lot less of it than in the US.

Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering iron in
the US with unregulated temperature still has great big mofo screws
holding the tip.

By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a sleek
looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly expensive.

Don't start me on the looks of cars!

I have a Voltcraft soldering station, I think it is designed and made in Germany,
is very nice, even has automatic switch off....
http://www.testberichte.de/test/produkt_tests_conrad_electronic_voltcraft_ls50_p59358.html
This was has been working OK for years....
Much cheaper then similar other stuff, and lot better I think.
For sure better and cheaper then 'Weller'.
Not sure if these are still made....

US is often a few years behind, like for example with digital TV, etc etc..

John Larkin · Apr 20, 2009

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:57:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:08:32 +0100) it happened Allus Smith
allus_smith@com.com> wrote in <Xns9BF3D71256976628D1@news.albasani.net>:

All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how crummy too
much American industrial design is.

Some US industrial design looks great but some looks downright,
well, Russian.

Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too but
there's a lot less of it than in the US.

Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering iron in
the US with unregulated temperature still has great big mofo screws
holding the tip.

By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a sleek
looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly expensive.

Don't start me on the looks of cars!

I have a Voltcraft soldering station, I think it is designed and made in Germany,
is very nice, even has automatic switch off....
http://www.testberichte.de/test/produkt_tests_conrad_electronic_voltcraft_ls50_p59358.html
This was has been working OK for years....
Much cheaper then similar other stuff, and lot better I think.
For sure better and cheaper then 'Weller'.
Not sure if these are still made....

US is often a few years behind, like for example with digital TV, etc etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_inventions

John

Jim Thompson · Apr 20, 2009

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:35:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:57:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:08:32 +0100) it happened Allus Smith
allus_smith@com.com> wrote in <Xns9BF3D71256976628D1@news.albasani.net>:

All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how crummy too
much American industrial design is.

Some US industrial design looks great but some looks downright,
well, Russian.

Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too but
there's a lot less of it than in the US.

Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering iron in
the US with unregulated temperature still has great big mofo screws
holding the tip.

By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a sleek
looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly expensive.

Don't start me on the looks of cars!

I have a Voltcraft soldering station, I think it is designed and made in Germany,
is very nice, even has automatic switch off....
http://www.testberichte.de/test/produkt_tests_conrad_electronic_voltcraft_ls50_p59358.html
This was has been working OK for years....
Much cheaper then similar other stuff, and lot better I think.
For sure better and cheaper then 'Weller'.
Not sure if these are still made....

US is often a few years behind, like for example with digital TV, etc etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_inventions

John

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