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krw
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:50:16 -0800, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com>
wrote:
wrote:
Metallic?
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JosephKK
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:46:29 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
Spell checkers are not perfect. Nor are engineers.
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JosephKK
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:50:29 -0800 (PST), Daniel
<nidan.danny@gmail.com> wrote:
Much more importantly, the craftsperson knows the tools limitations
and does not expect the tool to make up for any lack of skill on the
craftsperson's part. And to bludgeon the point home, normally can
make any tool(s) needed for task at hand.
<nidan.danny@gmail.com> wrote:
No supposedly about it.
Much more importantly, the craftsperson knows the tools limitations
and does not expect the tool to make up for any lack of skill on the
craftsperson's part. And to bludgeon the point home, normally can
make any tool(s) needed for task at hand.
J
JosephKK
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:25:36 -0800 (PST), bud-- <budnews@isp.com>
wrote:
of 2000 A and more at 24 V and less and there is no arc flash hazard
present. It is much more about transient energy capability and total
power available. I have reviewed such calculations once, i will have
to do it again. See NFPA 70E which is about how to do the analysis
and set up the appropriate protection measures including personal
protective equipment and personal protective clothing. For the reason
to do the study see 40 CFR 1926.
certainly not zero. I hear of about 1 or 2 a year, there may well be
more that i do not hear of.
wrote:
It is not just about current. I have seen plenty of systems capable
of 2000 A and more at 24 V and less and there is no arc flash hazard
present. It is much more about transient energy capability and total
power available. I have reviewed such calculations once, i will have
to do it again. See NFPA 70E which is about how to do the analysis
and set up the appropriate protection measures including personal
protective equipment and personal protective clothing. For the reason
to do the study see 40 CFR 1926.
I doubt that the annual death toll is that high, though it is
certainly not zero. I hear of about 1 or 2 a year, there may well be
more that i do not hear of.
J
JosephKK
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:23:02 +1100, Arlowe <bare.arsed@gmail.com>
wrote:
either ignore it or kill file it and all its nyms.
wrote:
I see you have had a dance with the local curse troll. Most here
either ignore it or kill file it and all its nyms.
T
TutAmongUs@thebarattheend
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:20:16 -0800, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You're a goddamned retard, notsoquietnotatechfool.
wrote:
You're a goddamned retard, notsoquietnotatechfool.
J
JosephKK
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:43:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
damn ignorant about arc flash hazards yet.
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Poxy hell. Step back Mike. I am not ready to believe you are that
damn ignorant about arc flash hazards yet.
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
JosephKK wrote:
I'm not. I was pointing out that it can cause the same damage.
Anything to create the initial plasma will cause the same thing,
including fuses with too low of an extinguishing voltage, or an idiot
sparky who uses damaged test leads. I always though it was odd that
electronics techs use well insulted probes, while sparkies use crap
probes with a lot of exposed metal. Let one of his test lamps short and
he can see the fireball that erupts, if he lives long enough. He talks
about not understanding dangerous test methods, yet he uses one himself.
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The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
I'm not. I was pointing out that it can cause the same damage.
Anything to create the initial plasma will cause the same thing,
including fuses with too low of an extinguishing voltage, or an idiot
sparky who uses damaged test leads. I always though it was odd that
electronics techs use well insulted probes, while sparkies use crap
probes with a lot of exposed metal. Let one of his test lamps short and
he can see the fireball that erupts, if he lives long enough. He talks
about not understanding dangerous test methods, yet he uses one himself.
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The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
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John Fields
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:03:48 -0800 (PST), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Since you must have read it in order to decide what to snip, that speaks
volumes about the state of _your_ mind.
---
Had he latched onto yours, however, He'd be OK, even though you,
yourself, are an isolated and eccentric figure...
JF
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Since you must have read it in order to decide what to snip, that speaks
volumes about the state of _your_ mind.
---
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Had he latched onto yours, however, He'd be OK, even though you,
yourself, are an isolated and eccentric figure...
JF
Guest
On 2 feb, 15:41, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
it. The tedium was relieved by occasional moment of hilarity, but you
have to know quite a bit to find Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner funny, and the
occasional absurdity certainly didn't justify the slog.
congenial environment, where habits like reading serious books for
pleasure aren't seen as strange.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
My mind wasn't in a great state by time I'd finished plowing through
it. The tedium was relieved by occasional moment of hilarity, but you
have to know quite a bit to find Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner funny, and the
occasional absurdity certainly didn't justify the slog.
If I lived in Texas, I probably would be. Happily, I inhabit a more
congenial environment, where habits like reading serious books for
pleasure aren't seen as strange.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:45:03 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
following set of rules... stops at first match from top...
(1) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #1), allows access to voice mail
(2) Time-out (e.g. no rings allowed 7PM - 6AM)
(3) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #3), allows access to voice mail
(4) Hard Rejection List, answer, then immediate hangup, add tone ?
(5) Rejection with Message #1
(6) Rejection with Message #2
Haven't decided contents of Message #1, or Message #2, but need some
way to handle emergencies, doctors, new business... like there's going
to be any in this administration :-(
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
From a persistent nightmare, I conclude filtering CID with the
following set of rules... stops at first match from top...
(1) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #1), allows access to voice mail
(2) Time-out (e.g. no rings allowed 7PM - 6AM)
(3) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #3), allows access to voice mail
(4) Hard Rejection List, answer, then immediate hangup, add tone ?
(5) Rejection with Message #1
(6) Rejection with Message #2
Haven't decided contents of Message #1, or Message #2, but need some
way to handle emergencies, doctors, new business... like there's going
to be any in this administration :-(
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
Guest
On Feb 2, 10:00 am, bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
point out a factual error in Morners interview..
Mark
Instead of insulting the individuals who don't agree with you, can you
point out a factual error in Morners interview..
Mark
Guest
On 2 feb, 19:18, makol...@yahoo.com wrote:
fun.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
I wouldn't deny you the pleasure of finding one for yourself. Have
fun.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Eeyore
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makolber@yahoo.com wrote:
Graham
And a VERY clever one at that. Not one to be easily fooled.
That's not Bill or indeed the entire AGW believers' way.
Graham
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Eeyore
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bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Sea level is falling globally btw.
Graham
In other words, no you can't.
Sea level is falling globally btw.
Graham
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Eeyore
Guest
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Graham
How do you intend to PROVE I'm wrong. All you have are wild assertions.
Graham
Guest
On 3 feb, 02:05, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
claim that the current high levels of CO2 in the atmosphere were
caused by CO2 coming out of solution in the oceans as they warmed up,
rather than becasue we were burning fossil carbon.
That factual error got pointed out fast enough - few of the denialist
are silly enough to make such an obvious error, though Ravinghorde has
managed to dig out a few who have been almost as stupid.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
wrote:
You've got a short memory, Graham. Remember your factually erroneous
claim that the current high levels of CO2 in the atmosphere were
caused by CO2 coming out of solution in the oceans as they warmed up,
rather than becasue we were burning fossil carbon.
That factual error got pointed out fast enough - few of the denialist
are silly enough to make such an obvious error, though Ravinghorde has
managed to dig out a few who have been almost as stupid.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Martin Brown
Guest
Eeyore wrote:
the fossil fuel CO2 component that we are adding the the atmosphere. CO2
dissolved in water under pressure can be a significant reservoir. It
occasionally goes pear shaped in some deep volcanic pools with the
shaken lemonade bottle instability after an earthquake.
Anyway the latest paramagnetic methods can measure the corresponding
decrease in oxygen content of the atmosphere to 6 sig fig now. There is
no doubt at all that the increasing CO2 is from us burning fossil fuels.
It is possible to show that the rate of increase in CO2 build up in the
atmosphere is still less than the amount we are pumping out. In other
words more CO2 is dissolving into the oceans than is leaving them. This
is confirmed by oceanic pH acidity measurments (bad for some corals).
Regards,
Martin Brown
The CO2 in solution in the oceans has a different isotopic signature to
the fossil fuel CO2 component that we are adding the the atmosphere. CO2
dissolved in water under pressure can be a significant reservoir. It
occasionally goes pear shaped in some deep volcanic pools with the
shaken lemonade bottle instability after an earthquake.
Anyway the latest paramagnetic methods can measure the corresponding
decrease in oxygen content of the atmosphere to 6 sig fig now. There is
no doubt at all that the increasing CO2 is from us burning fossil fuels.
It is possible to show that the rate of increase in CO2 build up in the
atmosphere is still less than the amount we are pumping out. In other
words more CO2 is dissolving into the oceans than is leaving them. This
is confirmed by oceanic pH acidity measurments (bad for some corals).
Regards,
Martin Brown
Guest
On 3 feb, 05:13, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
wrote:
You may think so. More objective observers think differently.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Robert Baer
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Jim Thompson wrote:
What would be perfect but impossible, is present the 3 magic tones
and immedite hangup *before* the Y-rated caller dials...
Y-rated? Not even fit for adults!
hangup.On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:45:03 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:23:53 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
JeffM wrote:
Ross Herbert wrote:
And if by some human error, a legitimate caller is included in the black list,
and upon hearing the loud message or being diverted to police/FBI,
then complains to the communications regulating authority,
how are you going to explain that you have connected
a possibly unauthorised piece of equipment to the telco line?
Since deregulation in the 1980s,
there's almost nothing you can't hook to your phone line in the USA.
The exception is an fully-automated spam call maker
--and it being illegal
doesn't seem to stop the douchebags from doing that anyway.
I'd like to get my hands on the SOBs running the ones for Obama. I'm
tired of having the damn things wake me up. It would be a case of
justified homicide.
I'm mulling over a design for a box that blanks the first ring, reads
the CID... no match to addressbook = continues to blank ring and lets
it roll into VM (legitimate caller, cold caller won't wait that long).
800, 877, etc... short line to "answer" call with dead air ;-)
I'll need help from a person experienced with uP's. I can manage the
analog.
...Jim Thompson
From a persistent nightmare, I conclude filtering CID with the
following set of rules... stops at first match from top...
(1) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #1), allows access to voice mail
(2) Time-out (e.g. no rings allowed 7PM - 6AM)
(3) Matches Allowed Names (for rule #3), allows access to voice mail
(4) Hard Rejection List, answer, then immediate hangup, add tone ?
(5) Rejection with Message #1
(6) Rejection with Message #2
Haven't decided contents of Message #1, or Message #2, but need some
way to handle emergencies, doctors, new business... like there's going
to be any in this administration :-(
...Jim Thompson
FIRST: hard rejection list with NO answer; 3 magic tones and immedite
What would be perfect but impossible, is present the 3 magic tones
and immedite hangup *before* the Y-rated caller dials...
Y-rated? Not even fit for adults!