Driver to drive?

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:56:06 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

With only 73 years separation between Henry VIII's death and the
Mayflower Pilgrims' landing at Plymouth Rock, one would think England
would still have been pretty much under Rome's influence at the time.

COMPLETE GARBAGE. As is all the rest of your idiotic speculation. The Pope ceased to have
any influence and there was the official Protestant Church of England instead.

Your knowledge of history is appallingly bad.

In the light of yours being nonexistent

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And plain WRONG ! Seems
like it to me.

Graham

It doesn't matter who wrote the books, if you never read them. Seems
like it to me.

John

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

With only 73 years separation between Henry VIII's death and the
Mayflower Pilgrims' landing at Plymouth Rock, one would think England
would still have been pretty much under Rome's influence at the time.

COMPLETE GARBAGE. As is all the rest of your idiotic speculation. The Pope ceased to have
any influence and there was the official Protestant Church of England instead.

Your knowledge of history is appallingly bad.

In the light of yours being nonexistent

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And plain WRONG ! Seems
like it to me.

It doesn't matter who wrote the books, if you never read them. Seems
like it to me.

I got a Grade One in History actually along with the majority of my 11 'O levels', taken between
age 15 -17.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinary_Level

Only one A pass sadly at 'A level' out of 3 (Physics of course).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-level

And also an 'S level' in Physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholarship_Level

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:07:34 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

With only 73 years separation between Henry VIII's death and the
Mayflower Pilgrims' landing at Plymouth Rock, one would think England
would still have been pretty much under Rome's influence at the time.

COMPLETE GARBAGE. As is all the rest of your idiotic speculation. The Pope ceased to have
any influence and there was the official Protestant Church of England instead.

Your knowledge of history is appallingly bad.

In the light of yours being nonexistent

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And plain WRONG ! Seems
like it to me.

It doesn't matter who wrote the books, if you never read them. Seems
like it to me.

I got a Grade One in History actually along with the majority of my 11 'O levels', taken between
age 15 -17.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinary_Level

Only one A pass sadly at 'A level' out of 3 (Physics of course).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-level

And also an 'S level' in Physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholarship_Level

Graham

And I'm reading a Trollope novel right now. Lots of interesting stuff
about the British aristocracy, great Lords and tenent farmers, a bit
about Ireland, and some interesting stuff about the civil engineering
of the London Underground and the prominent role of alcohol in the
19th century. Just finished Walter Lord's superb book about the Battle
of Midway.

I don't remember much about my high school history classes. I guess I
wasn't very interested in history when I was 16.

John

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

With only 73 years separation between Henry VIII's death and the
Mayflower Pilgrims' landing at Plymouth Rock, one would think England
would still have been pretty much under Rome's influence at the time.

COMPLETE GARBAGE. As is all the rest of your idiotic speculation. The Pope ceased to
have any influence and there was the official Protestant Church of England instead.

Your knowledge of history is appallingly bad.

In the light of yours being nonexistent

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And plain WRONG ! Seems
like it to me.

It doesn't matter who wrote the books, if you never read them. Seems
like it to me.

I got a Grade One in History actually along with the majority of my 11 'O levels', taken between
age 15 -17.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinary_Level

Only one A pass sadly at 'A level' out of 3 (Physics of course).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-level

And also an 'S level' in Physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholarship_Level

Graham

And I'm reading a Trollope novel right now. Lots of interesting stuff
about the British aristocracy, great Lords and tenent farmers, a bit
about Ireland, and some interesting stuff about the civil engineering
of the London Underground and the prominent role of alcohol in the
19th century. Just finished Walter Lord's superb book about the Battle
of Midway.

I don't remember much about my high school history classes. I guess I
wasn't very interested in history when I was 16.

I find it often depends on the teacher and the presentation. The year I took the exam we were
studying the post WW1 era until close to (then) modern times which I found fascinating. My teacher
was well pleased at my grade, as was the teacher who later took us for Biology in spades when about
half the class got grade ones.

It was a good school of course. And one of the oldest schools in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Albans_School_(Hertfordshire)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_schools_in_the_world#Tenth_century

Stephen Hawking is an Old Albanian btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Albans_School_(Hertfordshire)#20th_Century

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:30:12 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:06:44 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



John Fields wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

[1] the attitudes of the Brits towards the Irish have been interesting
over the last few centuries.

BTW, how would you like to live in a religious state with Catholic influenced laws ?
---
We wouldn't; that's why we left England in the first place.
---

It wasn't Catholic then you IDIOT.

---
With only 73 years separation between Henry VIII's death and the
Mayflower Pilgrims' landing at Plymouth Rock, one would think England
would still have been pretty much under Rome's influence at the time.

COMPLETE GARBAGE. As is all the rest of your idiotic speculation. The Pope ceased to have
any influence and there was the official Protestant Church of England instead.

Your knowledge of history is appallingly bad.

In the light of yours being nonexistent, I suppose that's what you'd
think if I wrote something of a historical nature which you happened to
disagree with.

What you need to do if you want to argue Rome's role in English affairs
during the time between the beginning of Henry VIII's reign and James
I's death is study the lives of Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary I, Elizabeth
I and James I.

For instance, you state that the Pope ceased to have any influence, but
did you know that under Mary I England was restored to Roman Catholicism
and she had many people burned at the stake for refusing to recant
Protestantism?

JF

Oh, for a really excellent overview of that period, read Carolly
Erickson's book "Bloody Mary."

John

 

[Joerg]

Martin Brown wrote:

[...]

Incidentally Joerg if you already have broadband are there no ISP
based DTV on demand services in the USA?

Yes, some specialized ones. But broadband out here means about 1.2MB/sec
sustained. Not quite enough. Also, AFAIK some ISPs begin to moan and
groan (and place a cap on you) when you burn off too much bandwidth all
the time.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[Joerg]

Joel Koltner wrote:

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:OaKNk.4552$x%.4430@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
It would have been good if they had done more extensive field testing. That
would have shown the multipath problems and there would have been time to
fix stuff. Now it's too late.

You don't think they'll be enough continued demands for over-the-air reception
that chipsets will, over time, improve? Or you think the problem is so
fundamentally tied to the choice of modulation scheme that it's unlikely to
get much better than it already is?

The little I know about it suggests that the chosen modulation scheme is
inherently more sensitive to time-variant multipath than the EU system.
IIRC the trade-off is that the EU system isn't as capable of sustained
high-def as ours. I mean, "Dancing with the Stars" in 1080 resolution is
truly stunning. If the signal hangs on for the two hours, that is ...

Future chip sets might improve that marginally. But the fact of the
matter is that the boxes people will use Feb-2009 will not contain any
better chip sets.

Lots of those out here. During an evening stroll a short while ago, and this
is no joke: "By the way, did you guys already get TV converters?"

My wife's grandmother (who's 80ish) knew about the changeover when we talked
to here about it some weeks ago, although she does have numerous tech-savvy
grandkids...

The topper here was a family who truly believed that there will be
absolutely not OTA reception of anything after Feb-2007 and I was unable
to convince them otherwise. This may be rooted in a IMHO shady ad by a
cable TV company saying something like "If you watch TV over an antenan,
come February 2009, you've got choices to make", then immediately saying
the solution will be cable. Oh well.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[Joerg]

Martin Brown wrote:

On Oct 28, 8:02 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:29:03 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
Martin Brown wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2008-10-21, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@example.net> wrote:
a crap picture.
A year ago it used to be 'nearly acceptable' now it's not even nearly.
Constant freezing, blocking out, loss of sound, paint-it-by-numbers colours
and Max Headroom staccatos.
An inbuilt tendency to conspiracy theory has deduced I'm losing bit
bandwidth to that HD thing the broadcasters seem to be pushing. They switch
off analogue in a couple of months, the telly's (and STBs) look like they'll
be heading down the council recycling centre at the same time.
I wonder who voted for that crap,
the decendants of those who chose NTSC before colour TV was mature.
I always believed that Never Twice (the) Same Color (sic) was well
named and that the color instablity was an intrinsic problem with the
modulation technology until I lived in Japan where they correctly
implemented the NTSC specification. Flesh tones of US newscasters
drifting between Addams family green and purple tinges was most
entertaining. The improvement that clamped flesh tones to dead flesh
orange was even funnier.
It was not an intrinsic problem. Our NTSC color TV works just fine.
Always did. We live in an area of heavy and time-varying multipath
distortion yet the colors are always crisp and never run away.
And this _is_ in the US.

Modern ones do. But the US made sets even as late as the 80's were
pretty appalling.
[...]
You must be a young pup. My memory of the early days is quite diff
rent. Hell, with a small effort i can timeline the changes that
helped make it what it is today. But this NG ain't worth it today.
Sure, but: In Europe they didn't even have color TV at that time. IIRC
color TV came out at the end of the 60's over there but PAL sets were so
prohibitive in cost that very few people had one until a decade later.
The early sets were also quite fickle so you better had a cousin who
worked in radio/TV repair or cost would go up even more.

It was broadcast colour from about 1967. I distinctly remember
watching parts of the moon landing run up from Apollo 8 onwards in
colour. The colours in those days were pretty pasty as they hadn't
properly figured out how to remove impure yellow emssions from the
blue phosphors. The fickle behaviour of the early colour TV sets led
to several guys making a fortune renting out TV sets with a combined
repair service. The foremost practitioner of this art made enough to
found a new Cambridge college - Robinson (aka Radio Rentals) college.

IIRC it was also 1967 in Germany. But only doctors, dentists or lawyers
could possibly afford a set. And yes, some did catch fire.

My uncles set spectacularly caught fire showering sparks and molten
innards on the carpet. From looking at the shielding of the EHT unit I
got the impression that the X-ray dose to service engineers was non-
trivial.

A service tech friend of mine asked. He was told that it wasn't so bad,
that really all that happened would be that he and his wife possibly
won't be able to have kids ... that floored me.

ISTR it was only in the mid to late 90's that Japanese manufacturers
accepted liablity for failures in their TV sets burning down houses in
the domestic market.

That all depends how good the forensic experts and lawyers are. How much
liability they will accept is usually handed down to them by a judge.

AFAIK the worst reputation was with those humongous Raduga sets from
Russia. Probably that's the only ones folks in the former eastern block
could buy.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:01:19 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<KF0Ok.6871$YU2.21@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>:

The little I know about it suggests that the chosen modulation scheme is
inherently more sensitive to time-variant multipath than the EU system.
IIRC the trade-off is that the EU system isn't as capable of sustained
high-def as ours.

?????
There is no limit except the transponders bandwidth.
And we have DVBS2, and the new standard with S2 has been accepted for
terrestrial too.
I'd say we are a generation ahead of the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_terrestrial_television

The topper here was a family who truly believed that there will be
absolutely not OTA reception of anything after Feb-2007 and I was unable
to convince them otherwise. This may be rooted in a IMHO shady ad by a
cable TV company saying something like "If you watch TV over an antenan,
come February 2009, you've got choices to make", then immediately saying
the solution will be cable. Oh well.

I am not sure how much longer the 'united states' will last.
Just now the state New York asked for Federal financial help...
Paterson Calls for Federal Rescue Package for States:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/nyregion/30paterson.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
If for any reason the federal government cannot, or does not want to, help,
then states may well go their own way, with their own currency perhaps ;-)
AND their own TV system.

 

[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:01:19 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
KF0Ok.6871$YU2.21@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>:

The little I know about it suggests that the chosen modulation scheme is
inherently more sensitive to time-variant multipath than the EU system.
IIRC the trade-off is that the EU system isn't as capable of sustained
high-def as ours.

?????
There is no limit except the transponders bandwidth.
And we have DVBS2, and the new standard with S2 has been accepted for
terrestrial too.
I'd say we are a generation ahead of the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_terrestrial_television

Directly from the horse's mouth:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_home.html

Quote "Its recommendation 4 is that HDTV broadcasting should use
progressive scanning – 720p in the short term, and probably 1080p in the
long term."

Long term. Fact is, we've got it. Right now. Enjoyed it Monday night
during a 1.5h ballroom dance competition. This times the signal hung on ...

The topper here was a family who truly believed that there will be
absolutely not OTA reception of anything after Feb-2007 and I was unable
to convince them otherwise. This may be rooted in a IMHO shady ad by a
cable TV company saying something like "If you watch TV over an antenan,
come February 2009, you've got choices to make", then immediately saying
the solution will be cable. Oh well.

I am not sure how much longer the 'united states' will last.
Just now the state New York asked for Federal financial help...
Paterson Calls for Federal Rescue Package for States:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/nyregion/30paterson.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
If for any reason the federal government cannot, or does not want to, help,
then states may well go their own way, with their own currency perhaps ;-)
AND their own TV system.

Have you noticed that there is a whole country a few hundred miles north
of you on the verge of going belly up?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:02:40 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<rz1Ok.6548$Ws1.2941@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Directly from the horse's mouth:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_home.html

Quote "Its recommendation 4 is that HDTV broadcasting should use
progressive scanning – 720p in the short term, and probably 1080p in the
long term."

Maybe you have an old link? Th word 'progressive' is not on that page,
and neither in the editorial.

Long term. Fact is, we've got it. Right now. Enjoyed it Monday night
during a 1.5h ballroom dance competition. This times the signal hung on ...

You do not even have 1080 lines on your LCD.
And how do you know it was progressive?

I am not sure how much longer the 'united states' will last.
Just now the state New York asked for Federal financial help...
Paterson Calls for Federal Rescue Package for States:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/nyregion/30paterson.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
If for any reason the federal government cannot, or does not want to, help,
then states may well go their own way, with their own currency perhaps ;-)
AND their own TV system.


Have you noticed that there is a whole country a few hundred miles north
of you on the verge of going belly up?

Iceland?
Seems even some Dutch provinces had their money invested there.

This whole money thing is surreal.
It is the Repugeblican Bush panic making, same he did after 9/11 (that he probably
organised himself, with his Saudi friend Osama).

But this whole hedging thing, as you perhaps know, when buying or selling
options, you need to show to the bank you can pay if things go the wrong way
for you.
But banks played their own lottery, started with that French guy who lost
a few billion... then everybody lost a few billion, now states are a few billion short.
Just pull the plug on the computa, and all debt vapourises

As to your subject line, that box is nice, that you selected,
but it does not do much more than a simple PC with a good sound card, actually less.
This confirms my theory that we should use simple PCs for all that stuff.
'PC as media centre'.

 

[Simon S Aysdie]

On Oct 27, 8:13 am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <antispam_bo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

The USA invented modern democracy, defended it in world wars, and is
the oldest surviving democracy on earth.

But the weenie rightist says that USA is republic, not a democracy.

He doesn't know what that means.

 

[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:02:40 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
rz1Ok.6548$Ws1.2941@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Directly from the horse's mouth:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_home.html

Quote "Its recommendation 4 is that HDTV broadcasting should use
progressive scanning ďż˝ 720p in the short term, and probably 1080p in the
long term."

Maybe you have an old link? Th word 'progressive' is not on that page,
and neither in the editorial.

Sorry, page 6:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_311-wood_hdtv.pdf

Long term. Fact is, we've got it. Right now. Enjoyed it Monday night
during a 1.5h ballroom dance competition. This times the signal hung on ...

You do not even have 1080 lines on your LCD.
And how do you know it was progressive?

Sez in the info box. No, our set interpolates a little but for some
reason there is a marked difference between 1080 and 720. Huge. Sets 42"
and up to have high enough native resolution and with some bargain
hunting you can get those for around $1000 now. I don't need one.

I am not sure how much longer the 'united states' will last.
Just now the state New York asked for Federal financial help...
Paterson Calls for Federal Rescue Package for States:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/nyregion/30paterson.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
If for any reason the federal government cannot, or does not want to, help,
then states may well go their own way, with their own currency perhaps ;-)
AND their own TV system.

Have you noticed that there is a whole country a few hundred miles north
of you on the verge of going belly up?

Iceland?
Seems even some Dutch provinces had their money invested there.

This whole money thing is surreal.
It is the Repugeblican Bush panic making, same he did after 9/11 (that he probably
organised himself, with his Saudi friend Osama).

But this whole hedging thing, as you perhaps know, when buying or selling
options, you need to show to the bank you can pay if things go the wrong way
for you.
But banks played their own lottery, started with that French guy who lost
a few billion... then everybody lost a few billion, now states are a few billion short.
Just pull the plug on the computa, and all debt vapourises

As to your subject line, that box is nice, that you selected,
but it does not do much more than a simple PC with a good sound card, actually less.
This confirms my theory that we should use simple PCs for all that stuff.
'PC as media centre'.

Which box? The MP3? Thing is, we want something simple. This is for
church so you want to be able to call anyone regardless of skills and
ask them to press the "REC" button when pastor comes in. And that's what
it does. No booting, not massaging, no error messages, it'll just work.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
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[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:56:06 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And
plain WRONG ! Seems like it to me.

Well, the winner _does_ get to write the history books. ;-)
--
Cheers!
Rich

Vote None of the Above:
http://www.bobbarr2008.com/

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:46:24 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<rc2Ok.6563$Ws1.5277@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Sorry, page 6:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_311-wood_hdtv.pdf

Very nice article, nice history too.

Long term. Fact is, we've got it. Right now. Enjoyed it Monday night
during a 1.5h ballroom dance competition. This times the signal hung on ...

You do not even have 1080 lines on your LCD.
And how do you know it was progressive?


Sez in the info box. No, our set interpolates a little but for some
reason there is a marked difference between 1080 and 720. Huge.

It seems to me that 720p on a 720 lines LCD screen cannot make a
lot of difference over 1080p, on the contrary, as 1080p on a 720
lines screen causes aliasing (so you need to sort of low pass).
But the increased bandwidth will perhaps give better motion and resolution.
So what you see is basically bigger bandwidth, not the effect of 1080 lines.
Well, that is my view anyways...

As to your subject line, that box is nice, that you selected,
but it does not do much more than a simple PC with a good sound card, actually less.
This confirms my theory that we should use simple PCs for all that stuff.
'PC as media centre'.


Which box? The MP3?

Yes.

Thing is, we want something simple. This is for
church so you want to be able to call anyone regardless of skills and
ask them to press the "REC" button when pastor comes in. And that's what
it does. No booting, not massaging, no error messages, it'll just work.

Small box running Linux with hotkey, can boot in 15 seconds.
But most important: You can modify it to your needs.

Also that thing of yours comes with an USB cable.. do you need a PC next to it?
;-)

 

[Eeyore]

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:56:06 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Do they specially edit history books in the USA to be anti-British ? And
plain WRONG ! Seems like it to me.

Well, the winner _does_ get to write the history books. ;-)

You don't look like you're winning anything at the moment I'm afraid.

Besides, the honourable Americans and many simply unconvinced by the war just
moved North to British North America (later Canada).

Graham

 

[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:46:24 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
rc2Ok.6563$Ws1.5277@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Sorry, page 6:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_311-wood_hdtv.pdf

Very nice article, nice history too.

Also pretty sobering about what's going on, and what's not going on.

Long term. Fact is, we've got it. Right now. Enjoyed it Monday night
during a 1.5h ballroom dance competition. This times the signal hung on ...
You do not even have 1080 lines on your LCD.
And how do you know it was progressive?

Sez in the info box. No, our set interpolates a little but for some
reason there is a marked difference between 1080 and 720. Huge.

It seems to me that 720p on a 720 lines LCD screen cannot make a
lot of difference over 1080p, on the contrary, as 1080p on a 720
lines screen causes aliasing (so you need to sort of low pass).
But the increased bandwidth will perhaps give better motion and resolution.
So what you see is basically bigger bandwidth, not the effect of 1080 lines.
Well, that is my view anyways...

Ahem, technology out here has progressed past that kind of resolution a
long time ago. Big time. AFAIK even the rather modest set here is
1366 x 768. Your typical 50-incher has a whole lot more.

Also, they are chock-full with image processing ASICs with rather nifty
inperpolating and extrapolating algorithms. This ain't grandpa's TV no
more ;-)

All I can tell you is that when our nature/history channel switches from
720 to 1080 the jump in picture quality is nothing short of stunning.
But as I said the price for that performance is that it cuts out when
the Fedex freighter lumbers into Mather. And it's 10 minutes from here
to touch-down, all smack dab in the path. OTOH next Tuesday that same
freighter will bring the bare boards from the design I just finished.

As to your subject line, that box is nice, that you selected,
but it does not do much more than a simple PC with a good sound card, actually less.
This confirms my theory that we should use simple PCs for all that stuff.
'PC as media centre'.

Which box? The MP3?

Yes.


Thing is, we want something simple. This is for
church so you want to be able to call anyone regardless of skills and
ask them to press the "REC" button when pastor comes in. And that's what
it does. No booting, not massaging, no error messages, it'll just work.

Small box running Linux with hotkey, can boot in 15 seconds.
But most important: You can modify it to your needs.

Try to get that slim-line 19" form factor with one of those. Plus we
don't want yet another hobby project. We'd like somthing where you
tighten four 19" rack screw, plug it in, set the timer and walk away.

Also that thing of yours comes with an USB cable.. do you need a PC next to it?
;-)

Nope, but you can. There actually is a PC to run the hymn projector but
we absolutely will not rely on that for recording. To download later,
yes. However, we'll use the LAN connection for that. If the LAN is down
for some reason one of us just take the SD card home.

--
Regards, Joerg

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:08:35 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<jp3Ok.5141$c45.2806@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>:

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_311-wood_hdtv.pdf

Very nice article, nice history too.


Also pretty sobering about what's going on, and what's not going on.

I'v been to EBU Brussels, interesting place.

Also, they are chock-full with image processing ASICs with rather nifty
inperpolating and extrapolating algorithms. This ain't grandpa's TV no
more ;-)

One more reason to state that Nyquist rules, no ASIC in the world will change that.
1080 lines to 720 lines will need low-pass or alias.

All I can tell you is that when our nature/history channel switches from
720 to 1080 the jump in picture quality is nothing short of stunning.
But as I said the price for that performance is that it cuts out when
the Fedex freighter lumbers into Mather. And it's 10 minutes from here
to touch-down, all smack dab in the path. OTOH next Tuesday that same
freighter will bring the bare boards from the design I just finished.

I am glad I am not in ammericca.

Small box running Linux with hotkey, can boot in 15 seconds.
But most important: You can modify it to your needs.


Try to get that slim-line 19" form factor with one of those.

No problem.
There are many low profile PCs, perhaps just use a laptop.

Plus we
don't want yet another hobby project. We'd like something where you
tighten four 19" rack screw, plug it in, set the timer and walk away.

Could be used to train people in Linux.

 

[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:01 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

Well, the winner _does_ get to write the history books. ;-)

You don't look like you're winning anything at the moment I'm afraid.

Well, we _did_ win the Revolution, didn't we? Ergo, we get to write
the history books. ;-)
--
Cheers!
Rich

Vote None of the Above:
http://www.bobbarr2008.com/

 

[Eeyore]

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:01 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

Well, the winner _does_ get to write the history books. ;-)

You don't look like you're winning anything at the moment I'm afraid.

Well, we _did_ win the Revolution, didn't we? Ergo, we get to write
the history books. ;-)

That's a pretty limited subject area but then Americans aren't reknowned
for any interest in affairs in other parts of the world.

And we haven't forgotten you were years late into both World Wars. Until
your cosy existence was disturbed you didn't give a fuck.

Graham