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Kris Krieger
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bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote in
news:4c636fb5-d3e3-4359-a510-57f4546647a1@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
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And a lot of history *has* been clarified in the years since I
studied/read about world history.
The main idea, tho', that I was trying to get at was that there seems to
be a link, to some degree (and nope, I dunno enough to estimate that
degree) between degree of strictness of sexual mores, and exposure or
non-exposure to STDs (although syphilis seems to have developed in the New
World, teh majority of STDs arose in Eurasia). "Less strict" not, of
course, meaning that eveyone has wanton orgies. Also not meaning that
every independent culture was the same. This is admittedly general, but
epidemiology sometimes is very general, at least at the start, and history
can be nebulous if precise written records don't exist (which is most
often the case).
Anyhoo, the "nutshell version" is that a fair number of religious laws
concerneing health, cleanliness, and sex do seem to have been based upon
observatiosn of things that tended to cause illness - which is still a
very imperfect system, in that cause and effect are often different from
what they might seem to be from simple observation.
SO, variosu laws became incorporated into various religions. ANd, as
religions became power hierarchies, at least some poeple in those
hierarchies realzied that all of the laws and threats and rules coudl be
used to maintain and increase power and wealth.
I don't think too many details need to be spun out to make that general
statement (and yeah, I can get just as distracted by, and hung up on,
tangential details as anyone, and more so than most - all one can do is
try to refocus onto the central concpets).
You prefer a lager or an ale?
news:4c636fb5-d3e3-4359-a510-57f4546647a1@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
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Interesting link. THe article seems to be well-referenced, which is good.The polynesian culture spead from Tiawan into Micronesia and
Melanesia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesian_culture
Indonesia seems to have been primarily populated by immigrants
orginating from Tiawan aat the same time, around 2000 BC (give or take
a hobbit or two, and a bunch of Australian Aborgines on their way to
Australia) where they arived about 60.000BC), but Indonesian culture
was exposed to Indian influences early on, and Muslim influences after
that and the culture is not usually described as polynesian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Indonesia
And a lot of history *has* been clarified in the years since I
studied/read about world history.
The main idea, tho', that I was trying to get at was that there seems to
be a link, to some degree (and nope, I dunno enough to estimate that
degree) between degree of strictness of sexual mores, and exposure or
non-exposure to STDs (although syphilis seems to have developed in the New
World, teh majority of STDs arose in Eurasia). "Less strict" not, of
course, meaning that eveyone has wanton orgies. Also not meaning that
every independent culture was the same. This is admittedly general, but
epidemiology sometimes is very general, at least at the start, and history
can be nebulous if precise written records don't exist (which is most
often the case).
Anyhoo, the "nutshell version" is that a fair number of religious laws
concerneing health, cleanliness, and sex do seem to have been based upon
observatiosn of things that tended to cause illness - which is still a
very imperfect system, in that cause and effect are often different from
what they might seem to be from simple observation.
SO, variosu laws became incorporated into various religions. ANd, as
religions became power hierarchies, at least some poeple in those
hierarchies realzied that all of the laws and threats and rules coudl be
used to maintain and increase power and wealth.
I don't think too many details need to be spun out to make that general
statement (and yeah, I can get just as distracted by, and hung up on,
tangential details as anyone, and more so than most - all one can do is
try to refocus onto the central concpets).
Well, IMO that means it time for a cold brewsnip
Then too, I know that my communiction is far from perfect, and I don't
mi
nd
correction, but I *do* mind egregious mistatements...
Me too.
You prefer a lager or an ale?