Driver to drive?

[Kris Krieger]

mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote in news:1606549e-a71a-4a81-b6af-51a7bf71d796
@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 9, 6:47�pm, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

Maybe, but both are infinitely more qualified than Obama. �In cas
e
you hadn't noticed, Rudy isn't a choice.


Look, if you want to hire some sarcastic bitch (and that's what she
is), to be leader of the free world, fine. It's a free country.

Maybe she can sell NATO on Ebay.

Actually, the jet wasn't *sold* on eBay - there were no takers. It was sold
through an Aviation Broker, at a price far below its listed value.

 

[Kris Krieger]

Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:fdb9c384-52c9-
46d3-ae94-38f127b33452@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 10, 2:27 am, mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:
On Sep 9, 4:47 pm, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk
wrote:

Most Americans do eat far too much meat so the guys original point is
basically sound. Excessive consumption of food is a big problem in the
USA with 30% now clinically obese and 3% morbidly obese.

So on balance, do you think Americans would be better off putting more
of their corn in their car's gas tank (in the way of Ethanol), or
putting less corn (in the way of High Fructose Corn Syrup) in their
own gas "tanks"?  I mean, there's only so much corn, right?

Neither of the above. Eat less and live longer. Bio-Ethanol from corn
is bogus. The present US eating habits are fabulous for the earning
prospects of pharmaceutical companies with diabetes drugs.

Food grade corn is better off being sold to the world market as food.
In modest amounts and unrefined it is OK.

And what role would exercise play in all this (assuming the car won't
run on Ethanol)?  

I do find it odd that you do not have English pavements (sidewalks) on
many suburban US roads so that the option of walking outdoors in the
evening is basically not available to many residents. They have to
drive everywhere. Heck I have even known US natives drive from one
part of a mall carpark to another rather than walk around inside the
mall. As a Brit I find this absolutely boggling.

Regards,
Martin Brown

That's OK, I'm an American and I find it boggling...

 

[Kris Krieger]

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote in news:7ed4eec2-df45-467c-9674-
510ab7ae1c5d@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 10, 2:04 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
You Can't Fake Authenticity....

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/cthomas_0908/

Right. Sarah Palin is an authentic right-wing populist light-weight.
She can read a good speech,

And have you noticed that, as she's been campaigning with McCain, she
simply *repeats* her convention speech? It's like listening to an old-
timey record that has a skip in it.

but if she got to run the country (which
would be a real possibility, if the McCain -Palin ticket got elected,
which isn't) she'd be just as far out of her depth as Dubbya was.

But c'mon, Bill, don't you think she's just as cute as a button? What more
does she need?

McCain's advisors should have been able to do better - the fact that
they couldn't speaks volumes about the total lack of talent in the
Republican ranks.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Oh, there *is* talent in the Republican ranks - but as one person (dang I
forgot who) had noted - McCain picked Palin because she was what *he*
needed - but what *the nation* needed should have taken precedence over
what *he* needed. He makes a lot of hay that he'd "rather lose an election
than lose a war", but this stunt belies the foundation of such a statement.

The campaign knew damn good and well that teh peopel who weren't
immediately and unquestioningly smitten with her, would be spending so much
time trying to figure out who the hell she *is* that it'd take time aways
from all otehr issues - away from looking into McCain's policies/record,
and away from lsitening to Omaba's policies.

Pure cynecism. But I expected some sort of stunt - seven lobbyists in the
ranks of his campaign chiefs; lobbyists are basically one-trick ponies -
they work to convince politicians that one particular viewpoint is true,
i.e., they *only* talk about the issue their paid (megabucks) to talk
about. Not exactly indicative of "a breadth of knowledge".

So, not surprising that they went for a stunt, rather than selecting a
highly-qualified and admired running-mate.

I'm an Independent, and to be honest, I was *hoping* McCain would select a
great running mate. The fact is that there *are* some intelligent and
respected Rebublicans. Don't think that the campaign "couldn't" find
better talent - they could have, but they instead chose to play the (keep
everybody busy with nonsense" card. IOW, they *chose* smoke and mirrors.
Frankly, if I were a Republican, I'd be *very* pissed off that such a stunt
was pulled, instead of them selecting a great running-mate - so it says
something to me that so many of them are just falling for it hook, line,
and sinker. Esp. this sudden adoption of Obama's "change" message. It
doesn't bother any Republican that it's a complete abandonment of
everything he'd been saying until they pulled Palin out of the hat?

 

[Kris Krieger]

donald <donald@notinmyinbox.com> wrote in news:Xs-
dnQ_zraOXyVrVnZ2dnUVZ_tbinZ2d@comcast.com:

Richard Henry wrote:
On Sep 9, 8:13 pm, bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On Sep 10, 2:04 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-

Web-Site.com> wrote:
You Can't Fake Authenticity....
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/cthomas_0908/
Right. Sarah Palin is an authentic right-wing populist light-weight.
She can read a good speech, but if she got to run the country (which
would be a real possibility, if the McCain -Palin ticket got elected,
which isn't) she'd be just as far out of her depth as Dubbya was.

McCain's advisors should have been able to do better - the fact that
they couldn't speaks volumes about the total lack of talent in the
Republican ranks.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

They could have had Joe Lieberamn, which would have been a real
independent ticket. Unfortunately, nominating Lieberman would have
thrown the conventoin into chaos.

Perhaps Palin is just a stalking horse, expected to get so embarrased
by her background that she resigns from the ticket, leaving McCain
free to pick Joe without the convention's interference.


I figured that the republicans were trying to get back the RWRF(1) back
on their side.

So they (GOP) picked a RWRF to help their cause.

donald

(1) Right Wing Religious Fanatic

The question is, would they all have *really* just stayed home and let a
Democrat be elected...? Did McCain *really* pick up more votes from
Independents than he'd have supposedly lost if some Extremists had stayed
home?

McCain should have (1) dumped the damn lobbyists and other Rovian neo-
fascists from his campaign, (2) picked a running mate who has intelligence
and expereince and talent, (3) stopped kissing up to failed Bush policies,
and (4) been consistent with who he's said he is. All of this crap shows
me that who he really is, is not who I thought him to be.

I'd been looking at him as a serious choice - but his tactics, and now this
silly stunt, have turned me completely off.

 

[Kris Krieger]

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote in news:c7b39cda-73ed-4816-9c99-e983ec946642
@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 10, 10:20 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:51:12 -0700, Joerg





notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:10:43 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
p...@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:50:20 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
p...@hovnanian.com> wrote:

snip

"Liberals" want to destroy the USA as we know it today.

Since the USA as Jim knows it today is pretty much a figment of his
imagination, this is a non-issue.

 I don't know what is their agenda or motive.

Jim knows very little about the real world, and what he thinks he
knows is almost always wrong.

 But I feel we've reached a "them or us" situation, so arm yourself.  

Every self-deluding conservative fantasist will take this warning
seriously.

Wait up, Bill - I'm a gun owner. And, seeing as how my politics are not to
the right of Atilla the Hun, I guess that makes me a "liberal".

Even Obama said, in his Nomination Acceptance speech,
QUOTED:
"The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio
than for those

plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold
the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals."

Once Obama is elected you'll have to defend your own property... it'll be
worse than the carpetbaggers
after the Civil War :-(


Dream on Jim. Your nightmares have an appealling surreal element.
You need to take Ken Livingstone's manta to heart - "If Voting Changed
Anything They'd Abolish It".

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Worse than th ecarpetbaggers...

As opposed to the Republicans expanding the gov.t's "authority" to seize
private property from average foplks and pay them a mere pittance, so thaey
could put up parks named after living Rebublicans...

As opposed to having consistently allowed a few people to simply ignore the
laws that had been keeping the stock market from being fleeced - a number
of comopanies, *and* various Retirement accounts of average citizens, were
decimated. Or don't one's savings/money/investments count as property...?

As opposed to having contributed to the destruction of the US auto
industry's competitiveness by killing the MPG requirements and encouraging
the substitution of gas-guzzlers for fuel-efficient cars (McCain's voting
record there has been consistent), thereby leading to massive losses of
jobs (that paid for property), losses that wouldn't have been necessary if
teh past 30 years' worth of knowledge re: oil production had been heeded
rather than denegrated and ignored so that a very few individuals could
make ever-larger profits.

As opposed to doing away with what little was left of mortgage regulations,
encouraging banks to come up with beanbrained things like "interest-only
mortgages" and, again, with a very few people paying themselves million
upon millions of dollars in "rewards" for this nonsense, *and*
_encouraging_ people to buy "as much house as possible", cynically based
upon a known fallacy, namely, that "house proces will go up forever".
Resulting, again, is massive losses of property.

And so on.

The "carpetbaggers" have been thriving for the past 8 years.

 

[hank alrich]

Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:

I know I'm addressing the Dreaded Libertarian, but most of western
Europe and Canada probably qualify as socialist using the criteria you
are apparently using for Obama and Biden--tax burden, public social
services etc.

For the recent past US wages lag inflation by abaout 2%. The effect is
the same as a 2% tax increase that hits those who earn the least the
hardest.

Meanwhile McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns, while those who
may or may not own even a single house enjoy a loss of earning power as
if they were paying 2% more in taxes.

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

 

[hank alrich]

Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:

I know I'm addressing the Dreaded Libertarian, but most of western
Europe and Canada probably qualify as socialist using the criteria you
are apparently using for Obama and Biden--tax burden, public social
services etc.

For the recent past US wages lag inflation by abaout 2%. The effect is
the same as a 2% tax increase that hits those who earn the least the
hardest.

Meanwhile McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns, while those who
may or may not own even a single house enjoy a loss of earning power as
if they were paying 2% more in taxes.

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

 

[hank alrich]

Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:

I know I'm addressing the Dreaded Libertarian, but most of western
Europe and Canada probably qualify as socialist using the criteria you
are apparently using for Obama and Biden--tax burden, public social
services etc.

For the recent past US wages lag inflation by abaout 2%. The effect is
the same as a 2% tax increase that hits those who earn the least the
hardest.

Meanwhile McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns, while those who
may or may not own even a single house enjoy a loss of earning power as
if they were paying 2% more in taxes.

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

 

[Kris Krieger]

mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote in news:afe3cf01-5d35-4859-bad0-
747b633b859c@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 10, 12:50 pm, Kris Krieger <m...@dowmuff.in> wrote:
donald <don...@notinmyinbox.com> wrote in news:Xs-
[snip]

(1) Right Wing Religious Fanatic

The question is, would they all have *really* just stayed home and let a
Democrat be elected...?  Did McCain *really* pick up more votes from
Independents than he'd have supposedly lost if some Extremists had
stayed
home?

McCain should have (1) dumped the damn lobbyists and other Rovian neo-
fascists from his campaign,(2) picked a running mate who has
intelligence
and expereince and talent, (3) stopped kissing up to failed Bush
policies
and (4) been consistent with who he's said he is.   All of this crap sh
ows
me that who he really is, is not who I thought him to be.

I'd been looking at him as a serious choice - but his tactics, and now
th
is silly stunt, have turned me completely off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I just saw the MSNBC/WSJ poll that while it has them about equal,
Obama's still the one with the electrified base. That said, McCain's
numbers there trippled!! But only to 34%.

So, IF this election is about getting the base out to the polls to
actually vote, I think Obama's still got an edge there. As he does
with actual policy.

IF however its about soundbytes and lipstick on pigs, the country is a
train wreck waiting to happen regardless of who they pick. (Oh wait,
it's been off the rails the last 8 years...)

-mpm

During lunch and working on some things, I put on the news. Lipstickgate,
gawd. So now, anyone who says anything that uses or refers to "lipstick"
is "automatically" referring to Palin. This childishness is sickening.

Especially since it was all peachy-keen and jim-dandy for McCain to use the
exact same pig-lipstick phrase when referring to something Hillary had
done.

I actually did soem searching on the pig-lipstick phrase. One comment I
found, that IMO sums it up, was on

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/campaign.lipstick/:
QUOTED: "Dan updated 4 hours, 13 minutes ago Ummm, I thought Palin was a
self-proclaimed "bulldog"? One perceived jab and McCain's camp turns into a
bunch yelping chihuahuas? That's credibility for you."


What astounds me is the *shrillness* or the "conservative" commentators I'm
hearing. It's as though they think that using moer words, and as loudly as
possible, makes them appear right or sensible. With all the screeching and
squaling and so on, it's like eating lunch in the Rusty Hinge Test
Facility.

Meanwhile, if Palin has to hide away, and let her various mouthpieces do
all the talking, becasue she can't stand this, and can't even face up to
Wolf Blitzer, uh, why is anyone supposed to believe she'd be able, if need
be, to face up to Putin or Ahmidinejad?

 

[Mitch]

A recreational newsgroup mostly devoted
to the acoustic guitar.

We now return to our regularly irregular
program.

 

[MK]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote...

That is a crude photshop of Sarah's head on another body.

Probably. But did you know that
RMMGA is a recreational newsgroup
mostly devoted to the acoustic guitar.

M-

 

[MK]

"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote...

In this election, it's going to be more like "Would you rather be boiled
in oil or skinned alive?"

Yeah maybe.

But did you know that RMMGA is
a recreational newsgrup mostly devoted
to the acoustic guitar?

M-

 

[MK]

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com> wrote in message

It all depends what Palin has on when she forces you to pray

<snip>

Yeah well, maybe.

But did you know that RMMGA is
a recreational newsgroup mostly
devoted to the acoustic guitar?

 

[BobW]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:thkgc45fic3sfhi91f8eo1o65n3n2l7ejp@4ax.com...

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:47:21 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net
wrote:

mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:

"The Large Hadron Collider is a symptom of America's decline in
particle physics and, some fear, in science overall"



Drudge headline:

World Did Not End...

John

I don't think they did any collisions, yet. They only did a verification
that the beams went all the way around in both the clockwise and
counterclockwise paths.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass GO, do not collect two hundred dollars...
-- Tom Lehrer

Bob
--
== All google group posts are automatically deleted due to spam ==

 

[Martin Riddle]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:6v9gc4peu8tak6m6edico7lpm45fjnnr4a@4ax.com...
| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:20:19 -0700, John Larkin
| <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
|
| >On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:49:50 GMT, Jan Panteltje
| ><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
| >
| >>On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:37:24 -0700) it happened John Larkin
| >><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
| >><0t4gc4tt61ab30gkf6l2hiqsct9hqabk3i@4ax.com>:
| >>
| >>>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:30:45 GMT, Jan Panteltje
| >>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
| >>>
| >>>>Plastic transistors... e-paper- future?
| >>>> http://www.plasticlogic.com/
| >>>
| >>>Like the song from Annie:
| >>>
| >>> Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you, tomorrow,
| >>>
| >>> You're always a day away.
| >>>
| >>>John
| >>
| >>Jealousy?
| >>That CEO actually demonstrates one.
| >>And the factory is build.
| >>And note who the shareholders are, you know them.
| >>Now if you were commenting on my posting in ..satellite.europe,
| >>where I state that in a few years we will have e-paper in color
| >>that is video capable, and wallpaper our rooms with it, yes THEN
| >>that is in the future.
| >>The word is actually MAŃANA 'tomorrow', sometimes meaning 'not today'.
| >>
| >>Any bears sighted yet?
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >Looking at the "before and after" pic,
| >
| >http://www.plasticlogic.com/assets/PlasticLogicElectronicReadingDevice.jpg
| >
| >
| >if it can turn dumpy chicks into foxy ones, it will indeed be a
| >roaring success.
|
| ---
| You're right!
|
| http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Smirnoff_vodka.jpg
|
| JF

Beer Goggles .... http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg19926694.500

Cheers

 

[David Lesher]

Tom Bruhns <k7itm@msn.com> writes:

Doesn't look like we're going to hear from the OP again on this, and we
all know what the thread degenerates into at that point...

I'm reading along, but don't have anything to add at present. He lacks
network analyzers etc necessary for some of the suggested approaches.

I agree that the stub is pointless. I think he needs some tuned cavities,
but I suspect he'd balk at Sinclar's price.

Not sure how audio rectification in rusty gutters works with FM, but then
I learn something every day.

I agree with the on-line streaming suggestion, except RIAA just killed
that deader than dead with the latest Copyright Rights Board rates.


--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

 

[Phil Allison]

"George Herold"

** Then you do not have the 3 needed signals for the fourth op-amp stage
which cancels the THD.

** YOU MUST NOT IGNORE THE ABOVE !!!

You are a fool to mess with that circuit.

I'm certainly a fool, but if I don't "mess" with the circuit then how
do I learn anything.

** You have been handed an optimised solution.

Go mess with some other circuit on your own.

JFETS are *highly non-linear * devices, so you will have lots of second
harmonic if you use one as a gain control element with any more than 50mV
of
signal across it.

Well this is my first time using a FET for anything but a low
resistance switch. It looks like I'll have something like 0.5 to 1
Volt across it, so I should fail miserablly. (Have you seen Jim
Willaim's cure for the channel resistance modulation AN-43 figure 45.
Linear Technologies).

** Even with the exact compensation signal voltage applied to the gate, THD
is still high.

Been through that exercise many times.

Plus THD at very low frequencies ( like 3 Hz ) will be MUCH WORSE that at
audio frequencies.

You have FAILED to see how elegant, foolproof and FAST the diode limiting
is
compared to other methods.

Why do you say that?

** Cos you are still in love with stupid, damn JFETS.

Phil would it make you happier if I was rude?

** Completely off with the fairies - like I said before.



.... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rich Grise"


** Piss off -

you RIDICULOUS MORON.





....... Phil

 

[Hal Murray]

In article <n0mac4hmqbqj2tgvrq2btp1en5036ajlhj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:

Not jtag. I was thinking of programming the fpga to put a weak pullup
on all pins. Then pull a pin low and turn it loose and see how long it
takes to go high. An unsoldered pin will have very little capacitance,
so will go high pretty fast. Done right, this could catch all opens
and shorts on all the i/o pins, without the need for jtag gadgets on
the other ends.

That's what I thought you were thinking of doing.

I did a bit of handwaving. Xiling pads have a lot of input
capicatance and the pullups have a lot of slop in the specs.

The Spartan3 data sheet I just glanced at said 3 to 10 pF
and 0.8 to 2.3 mA for the pullups (at 3.3V)

If we assume a pin only goes to one other pin with roughly
the same capicatance and the trace is a few inches (at 2 pF
per inch) that's roughly a 3:1 change between making contact
and no contact. More for a long trace, less if the other pad
has lower input capicatance.

I'd probably assume that the pullups on a chip are all roughly
the same and run a calibration pass, and then run the real scan.

It might take more than that, say calibration on a known good board
to measure the other chip and length of the trace.

--
These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

 

[TheM]

"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ira5aF5nb9U1@mid.individual.net...

At $5/W installed it will collect 2kWh/yr for $5, or $2.5 per kW.
Amortise over 20 years brings that to 12.5c per kWh, which is approx half domestic cost for mains.

In the UK average insolation is about half that. So PV at $5 per peak Watt installed is cost competitive with mains over a 20 year
period.

And when PV hits $2 per installed Watt? How about $1/W?
Still no revolution?

You conveniently forget a few things. You need more than just a panel,
how about inverter that might die from time to time due to lightning.
Installation cost is far from irrelevant and can be substantial.

Cost of maintenance is something most dreamers forget, 20 years is
substantial amount of time. Hail is becoming pretty big, how will the
panels like golf-ball sized hail? How about wind? It is getting severe
as well. Kid next door or an idiot might throw a rock etc etc, lots of
stuff can happen in 20 years.

You also forgot reduced performance with years.

These panels do come with warranty, but I suspect this is partly due to the
fact that so many years ahead most people won't even bother and the company
may be gone anyway.

How about cost of financing? Paying 100.000$ upfront is not equal to spending
that much slowly over a period of 20 years.

All this sends your amortization into smithereens. Wake up and smell the coffee.

M