Driver to drive?

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:10:22 +0000 (UTC), Willem <willem@stack.nl>
wrote:

Noah wrote:
) I also object to you saying ignorant peasants invented god. It is not
) ignorant to believe in god.

If god created the universe, then who created god ?
---
"What" is probably closer to it than "who", and that would be God's
God. And what created God's God? God's God's God. And ...

--
John Fields
 
Kyle Winters wrote:
Sorry - will try the diagram again...


Output of 74LS05
------------------->>-------------
|Vx LED |
| |
|
3K9(R1) |
GND
|
|
----
+5V
Lets first see what you need: Your relay needs 5/120= 42mA, it will work
with a little less too. You will have to invert the logic, because the open
source will drive the relais only if it is put instead of the resistor.
between +5V and the output of the LS05. Unfortunatly the LS seies is only
specified with 8mA, but Win was guessing it makes also 40mA. To avoid
zapping the LS05 put a 1N4148 diode across the relay coil with the ring to
+5V.

\
+5V o-------+---_ o o
- )|
^ )|
o-------+---_)|
O/P LS05
(created by AACircuit v1.28 beta 10/06/04 www.tech-chat.de)
No resistor needed at all.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy
 
It has you on a chain jerking like your mama on the DT's.


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:42:40 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

Unlike you, I don't need to "dig" at all.

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Oh, the wit! The scathing, rapier-like tongue!
---

Now go wash your hands, fates only
know where that ass of yours has been.......

---
Sitting on your face.

--
John Fields
 
How so, shitlick?


"keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:43:13 -0600, Rhyanon wrote:

I know! It sure seems to be yanking your loose ass around quite nicely.

Tiz funny, old ugly one with the size 48W twat, to hear you talk about
yanking loose asses around. Seems you're the one being yanked around.

What wit!

What he said!

--
Keith
 
Why do you kick your mother?


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:43:48 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

Nice attempt at a dodge, except for that falling all over yourself bit.

---
How could I help myself? It's not all that often some loud,
pretentious, bitch sets herself up for such a deserving kick in the
ass. It still makes me chuckle, Heh, Heh!

--
John Fields
 
In article <0grdv095ioa7duve485fjl7t7irkiuj1ko@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:27:24 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:48:55 GMT, "Bradley1234" <someone@yahoo.com
wrote:

But natural, unsaved mankind has no fear of God, and apparently no natural
interest in knowing who God is.


OK, then explain why the two universal characteristics of all human
society are that they use fire and have religion. Well, excluding the
Democratic party maybe.

John

fire = Barbara Boxer

religion = Teddy Kennedy
He's certainly into the spirits.

--
Keith
 
"Kyle Winters" <kyle@ksteam.com.au> wrote

74LS05 IC (Hex Open Collector Inverter) that I want to use to drive
a relay ... the resistance across the relay coil is 120R.
You will need 5v/120 A to drive the relay = 42 mA

A 74LS05 can only sink 20mA.

Connect 3 '05 gates in parallel: all inputs tied together,
all outputs tied together.

Connect the relay between 5V and the output of the '05s.
Connect a diode across the relay coil: Stripe (cathode)
to 5V; the other end to the outputs of the '05.

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.
To reply, remove spaces: n o lindan at ix . netcom . com
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:58:12 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com>
wrote:

It has you on a chain jerking like your mama on the DT's.
---
Whuddit take you, about an hour to come up with that gem?

--
John Fields
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:58:51 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com>
wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:43:48 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

Nice attempt at a dodge, except for that falling all over yourself bit.

---
How could I help myself? It's not all that often some loud,
pretentious, bitch sets herself up for such a deserving kick in the
ass. It still makes me chuckle, Heh, Heh!


Why do you kick your mother?
---
Can't you read? Because you deserve it.

--
whoreson
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:49:26 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
<salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:

Willem wrote:
Noah wrote:
) I also object to you saying ignorant peasants invented god. It is
not ) ignorant to believe in god.

If god created the universe, then who created god ?

Which sums it up.

For most god believers they take the view that our consciousness could
not come about on its own. That consciousness is so amazing that it must
have been designed and built by someone else, of *greater*
consciousness. The obvious issue with that is that if one cant accept
that the fact of our own consciences requiring no help, how an earth can
one account for an even *greater* consciousness to exist? If one can
accept that a truly stupendous consciousness of a god can just exist,
surly is *easier* to accept that a lesser consciousness can just exist.
---
If a consciousness like ours can spring up spontaneously, who's to say
that a higher form of consciousness [which can be aware of us but
which we can't be aware of] can't also? Kind of like we can pretty
much figure out what's going on with an amoeba, but it hasn't got a
clue about what's up with us. As above, so below.


--
John Fields
 
Sorry about the belated responce, but I was pulled of this job for a
while. I now have a circuit designed and recently bb'ed it. So far it
seems to be working really well.

Thanks for the help Joerg.
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:57:38 GMT, Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:

"Kyle Winters" <kyle@ksteam.com.au> wrote

74LS05 IC (Hex Open Collector Inverter) that I want to use to drive
a relay ... the resistance across the relay coil is 120R.

You will need 5v/120 A to drive the relay = 42 mA

A 74LS05 can only sink 20mA.

Connect 3 '05 gates in parallel: all inputs tied together,
all outputs tied together.

Connect the relay between 5V and the output of the '05s.
Connect a diode across the relay coil: Stripe (cathode)
to 5V; the other end to the outputs of the '05.
Or use a 74HC or 74ACT part. +/-60 mA IIRC.
Or buffer it with a transistor or OPAMP.


Bob
 
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:09:13 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Or Canada. I know several who have come back with winter tans after
visiting sunny, tropical, Canuckistan.
Yeah, the snow-white beaches of Toronto are lovely this time of year.

John
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:29:00 GMT, "Bradley1234" <someone@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:48:55 GMT, "Bradley1234" <someone@yahoo.com
wrote:

But natural, unsaved mankind has no fear of God, and apparently no
natural
interest in knowing who God is.


OK, then explain why the two universal characteristics of all human
society are that they use fire and have religion. Well, excluding the
Democratic party maybe.

John


Im not certain of the premise, does everyone use fire?
There may have been a small population near Tierra del Fuego that
didn't. As far as I know, every other known human group does/did.

do all societies
have religion?
Yes. That was my point. Natural, unsaved mankind has always been
interested in and in fear of God or gods.

John
 
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
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important - why I don't have to believe that cell-phones cause brain
cancer,
Didn't they use to say that about DDT? :)
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:09:50 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise
<richgrise@example.net> wrote:

while hacking Fred's art, I saw that the 120R was in series with
the diode. I wouldn't have done that either. ;-)
What advantage can you see to adding the resistor?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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In article <o1ofv05oto7knppie194t09j1oe56aeeh0@4ax.com>,
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat says...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:46:52 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:09:13 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Or Canada. I know several who have come back with winter tans after
visiting sunny, tropical, Canuckistan.

Yeah, the snow-white beaches of Toronto are lovely this time of year.

John

The penalty for illegally visiting Cuba should be illegal detainment
at Guantánamo.
Nope. Legal detainment. ;-)

--
Keith
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:39:39 -0800, Alex Zaretsky wrote:

We are developing a "camera on a stick".
It is actually a CMOS sensor camera with a very simple Micro controller
which supports the USB 2.0 protocol and MPEG2 encoder chip.
The idea is that the camera will compress rather small video clips in
MPEG2 format to the external "disk-on-key" (for example of M-Systems)
connected to the camera all the time during video capturing.
When the disk-on-key is inserted to a computer USB it should be
automatically accessable by Windows Explorer without installation of
any driver software.

The problem we face is how to support the Windows File system without
using high-end controllers (ARM for example) with an operating system
running on it. We are really interested in keeping the price of the
device as low as possible.
FWIW, I have a Fuji "Fine-Pix A210" with USB, and whether I plug it into
Doze or Linux it just shows up as a drive. I have no idea what exact
filesystem it is, or if it even makes any difference; in Doze it just
shows up when I plug it in, with Linux, I have to mount it. So the OS has
whatever drivers it needs - all you have to do is deliver data to it,
I'd think.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
Paul Burke wrote:
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

"Thous shalt not kill" becomes "You should avoid killing other
people,
beause it upsets their relatives and your neighbours - clinical
trials
have shown that people who commit a single murder have a 43% chance
of
being killed by a vengeful relative, a 15% chance of being
pre-emptively lynched by the neighbours and an 85% chance of
becoming
unemployable because they make their co-workers anxious."

Could you now give us the updated version of "Thou shalt not covet
thy
neighbour's ass"?
"Coverting thy neightbour's ass is a bad idea - it distracts you from
the wiser attitude of accepting that your neighbours had a good idea
when they got their ass, and the wiser course of setting about getting
an ass of your own. Clinical trials have established that chronic envy
raises your chance of getting a stomach ulcer by a factor of three, and
persistently coverting your neighbour's ass is likely to sour your
relationship with the ass-owning neighbour to the point that when you
do get your own ass, you won't feel able to ask for advice on the finer
points of ass care. The asses of envious novice ass owners die on
average two years younger than asses owned by novice ass owners who
honour their early adopter neighbours".

Obviously, the statistics are faked ... this is just a thought
experiment.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:24:39 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:46:52 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:09:13 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Or Canada. I know several who have come back with winter tans after
visiting sunny, tropical, Canuckistan.

Yeah, the snow-white beaches of Toronto are lovely this time of year.

John

The penalty for illegally visiting Cuba should be illegal detainment
at Guantánamo.
Sounds fair. The penalty for illegally leaving Cuba is a bullet in the
back.

John
 

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