Driver to drive?

[ParaXerxes]

TripleEight wrote:

God is something civilised groups of humans created to make sure the way
of being civilised is kept and followed.

An opinion and assumption, not fact.

 

[ParaXerxes]

John Woodgate wrote:

...But we wouldn't regard the first human societies that had gods as
civilized at all.

The human recording and interpretation of history isn't necessarily correct
in either religion or science. Perhaps in certain periods of the
prehistoric past the humans then were more civilised than the humans of the
much vaunted 21st century.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Tom MacIntyre
<tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote (in <mgg0v0989dhvigkpnfiuo4ks0h5hovlt
h6@4ax.com&gt about 'Answer for Guy Macon', on Thu, 20 Jan 2005:

I'd suspect that "wine" will never show up there?

But 'Wine' might, if we get invaded by the Linuzians. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

An illustration of the complementary point that idiots ignore good
advice.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Tony Williams]

In article <U+3wJGB6DM8BFw+N@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

The Saxon spelling is 'coombe'. The 'be' is silent.

Cwm is Welsh for valley, and the pronunciation is
(sort of) half-way between Come and Comb.

--
Tony Williams. From Cwmbran, = Valley of the Crows.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:03:31 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:

In article <35a6auF4ivv9cU1@individual.net>, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:29:09 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
dirk@neopax.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:40:41 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:

But, you raise a good point...when does a fetus become a human life?

---
That's been argued to death, already, but in my view it's when the new
strand of DNA is assembled.

When the nervous system has the complexity of a mouse brain then it's on a par
with a mouse. Ditto for every other stage of development.

---
I agree, but for it to develop it must be alive. And if it's alive...

That's not really the question.
It is 'when is it a human life'.
My view is when it exceeds the neural complexity of the smatest ape.

I, as a pro-choicer, would allow for neural complexity at the 10th
percentile of the stupidest species of primates studied due to having
some mental characteristics like those of humans. Guessing about 4-5
months of gestation, possibly as little as 3.
And permit abortion until birth if abortion is delayed past that point
in whole or in part by any traceable efforts of the pro-lifers, with cost
overruns caused by such a delay to be paid by the taxpayers or better
still if possible by the pro-lifers that delay an abortion to a time that
its cost has increased.

Has anybody ever seen "pro-lifers" (now there's a contradiction!) lining

up at the adoption agency to feed those unwanted screaming poop machines?

Feh.

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:09:00 -0700, uvcceet wrote:

In <ik60v05pjc0hs834ar5hf33ra4pnctfgro@4ax.com>, on 01/20/05
at 02:57 PM, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> said:


BTW, have you got a clue about the origin of the universe?


Well, for those who do religion, we know that God didn't create the
universe, because the Hebrew text quite clearly says that He ORGANIZED it,
not created it.

For those who get a kick out of the big bang idea, well, if the universe
encompasses everything and yet it is expanding, I can't figure out what it
is supposedly expanding into.

I would say that I have never met or read anyone whom I considered
anywhere near smart enough to come up with the answer to that.

I suppose you will enlighten us, if we want to know, or not?

This guy claims to be pretty smart:
http://www.godchannel.com

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:17:42 +0000, Paul Burke wrote:

Kevin Aylward wrote:

Someone who unjustifiable takes a life should have his life
taken, imo.
So, I absolutely believe that cold blooded killers should be executed in
principle, but must not be, due the lack of absolute proof of guilt.

Everybody who supports the death penalty should be shot.

Paul Burke

If killing is "wrong", then killing is wrong, no matter how big a lynch
mob you can put together.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Paul Burke]

John Woodgate wrote:

The idea is that the god created everything, including ethereal beings
('angels') as well as living creatures. A group of the ethereal beings
revolted, led by the principal evil, and were cast into eternal torture.

But, being omniscient and omnipotent, God knew this when he created

them... and did not want it any other way.

Paul Burke

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Kevin Aylward" <salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:4p4Id.184716$48.37681@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

[snip]

But in my view, you opinion is made based on ill-informed prejudice
originating from your past, when you had little science to justify your
ideas. You are still relying on faith.

I agree with you Kevin, including all portions that I snipped.
But this is just all smoke screens. It has nothing to do with
respect for life and/or consiousness, whenever that sets in, after
two months or three. The pro-lifers kill living animals too and
have them for lunch if not breakfast.

No, it's all about the girl has been naughty, she had her bit of fun,
and as an example to the rest of the narrow-minded community of
peasants, she has to give birth to the baby. Period. It has been
that way for centuries.

The truth is that 'respect for life' is a much more complicated
area and these pro-lifers are the last ones to understand a bit
about it. They blindly focus on the abortion issue, make it the
center of their peanut-sized universe, while the abortion issue
is only a very very minor bit of what makes up 'respect for life'
in the first place.

Where was the 'respect for life' in the Iraq war? To hell with
these pro-lifers and their retarded ideas.

[snip]

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[John S. Dyson]

In article <20050120232915.12639.00000108@mb-m24.aol.com>,
rolavine@aol.com (Rolavine) writes:

From: toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson)

There is no proof that Bush lied. Please refer to a dictionary
for the definition of a lie,

Ahem "75% of Al Qaida leaders have been captured or killed" said by Bush dozens
of times during the campaign. This is a damn lie,

Please provide evidence that is a lie. You lefties keep on making up

ideas based upon your feelings (instead of secret CIA and other intelligence
info.)

John

 

[Rhyanon]

Go cower in a killfile blankie, whiner.


"Randy McLaughlin" <randy@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qbTHd.6098$8W4.5799@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

"Aunty Kreist" <Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote in message
news:35accbF4ialjfU1@individual.net...

"Marco Dieckhoff" <dieck@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:0264c2-8i.ln1@hamlet.frbr.etc.tu-bs.de...
On 2005-01-20, Parse Tree <account@domain.extension> wrote:
Aunty Kreist wrote:

Um....because he also killed the human the fetus was attached to.
But, you raise a good point...when does a fetus become a human life?

It doesn't. It's a parasite until it leaves the host.

Ah, "host". That's where comp.os.linux.networking comes in play, hm?

OK, I kill child processes every day on my host, hoping they don't
become zombies. And I don't feel guilty about that.


Sorry, but I can't see any reason why comp.os.linux.networking is
in the list of newsgroups to this topic.

Can anyone enlighten me? Otherwise please take care not to post
this thread to comp.os.linux.networking anymore. Thanks.

--
Marco Dieckhoff

It's crossposted because John Fields is trolling our group with preachy
Christian rants. Then, when he's posting from your group, he states the
opposite of what he's claimed here, so you guys won't think he's nuts.
We're
just doing you the service of showing you all what a nutjob Fields is.

Everyone knows what a nutjob he is. The question is what does your adding
more cross-posting do to help?

Randy

 

[Rhyanon]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:r9NPp4FNz+7BFwgu@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
<snip>

It's a 'line-drawing' situation, and people can NEVER agree where to
draw the line. One might be bitterly opposed to abortion on demand until
a daughter is pregnant.

As the moron Dan Quayle admitted back in the days of Bush I. He actually
said he was for overturning RvW, but would somehow get HIS daughter an
abortion if she needed one! Typical right wing hypocrisy.

--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Rhyanon]

Precisely.


"James Knott" <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:KfudndohSoFltW3cRVn-pQ@rogers.com...

Jim Thompson wrote:

You sound like an ex-neighbor of mine, who opined, while eating lunch
at my house, that she couldn't understand why my children were so
well-behaved, since they didn't go to church, or believe in god.

I told her to depart my premises, never to return ;-)

Someone recently told me, that only "Christians" could be moral.
When you look at all the violence committed in "God's" name, it's obvious
we're better off without him/her/it.

 

[Ian Stirling]

Guy Macon <_see.web.page_@_www.guymacon.com_> wrote:

Ian Stirling wrote:

Joel Kolstad wrote:

Ian Stirling wrote...

Unfortunately, AIUI, there are no really cheap solutions to
providing a USB host,

They're getting much cheaper.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5169576412.html

Seems I may be wrong, I last looked a fair few months ago.
I don't know how much above device is (awaiting quote).

Please let us know how much they are.

Will do.
Currently leaving email program to download 3000 spams :/

 

[Keith Williams]

In article <yTWpSOM83C8BFwZA@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk says...

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Fields <jfields@austininstrum
ents.com> wrote (in <1280v0lhgmj40p29lm73tb0da05qtu2sap@4ax.com&gt about
'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Thu, 20 Jan 2005:

I disagree. A carrot, using its life to grow and make itself food for
us should be respected. Treasured, actually. It even provides some of
the very air we breathe. Not in the same way one sentient human would
respect another, of course, but in its own way.

How do you feel about intestinal bacteria? (;-)

I like 'em. My gut reaction is to leave them alone.

--
Keith

 

[Rhyanon]

Look! You made him CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, AK! Priceless!


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
newshd0v0pi03620dqgahs51nvc0a58ln7dgo@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:40:06 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:


"John Fields"
---
You really _are_ thick, aren't you?

I believe God exists, but Rhyanon apparently doesn't, therefore from
Rhyanon's statement about what God would do to me if He existed,
Rhyanon is making rules which, if God existed, God would have to
follow.

You are crying because Rhy turned your own words against you. If you
can't
handle it, then don't come on a Pagan newsgroup making bizarre fundie
Xian
rants. Otherwise, you're going to get exactly the treatment that Rhy gave
you. It's the way of the world, sorry.

Got it?

---
Neither of you two wankers could turn a fucking doorknob without a
manual, so don't try to feed me that self-serving crap. As for the
rest of it, I'll post what, where, and when I choose, and if you have
a problem with that that's fine with me.

--
See ya,
John Fields

 

[Jeroen Belleman]

Tony Williams wrote:

In article <U+3wJGB6DM8BFw+N@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:


The Saxon spelling is 'coombe'. The 'be' is silent.


Cwm is Welsh for valley, and the pronunciation is
(sort of) half-way between Come and Comb.

That's funny. It also has that meaning in French.

Jeroen Belleman

 

[Rhyanon]

It does have a delightful little point at the end, perfect for turning up at
whoresons like yerself. But that's rather beside the issue. The facts is,
you are a hypocrite. Suckit.

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:92rvu09mn2bbk79d6tvp0qoa5nq5l5almn@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:34:45 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

What "grown ups"? I see none in this thread.

---
That's because you can't see past the end of your nose, brat.

--
John Fields

 

[Rhyanon]

Awee, how cuuuute. Try not to let a missed keystroke gve you a stroke. Then
again, please do.

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:63pvu0h90tirndce2ddvid01turo6hte6t@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:36:45 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

Well, through your eyes, the view is all shit, since your head is
permanently ensconed in yer ass. Typical xstain.

---
"Ensconed"? Typical cretin.

--
John Fields