Driver to drive?

[Bob Eldred]

<uvcceet@juno.com> wrote in message
news:41f01908$3$woehfu$mr2ice@news.aros.net...

In <n4qdnZOjm_eEj23cRVnyvQ@eclipse.net.uk>, on 01/20/05
at 08:18 PM, "TripleEight" <888@msn.com> said:

Humans have always been afraid of the unknown and God easily fits into
the scarey corner of the human mind.

Oh brother.... If there is no superior being, whence commeth the basic
rights of living? If my right to be free and live as I choose comes from
another human, then that right can be revoked. If I am only allowed to
live because someone else says its okay, how long till that right is taken
away as well.

Governments exist to insure rights, not to grant them. No God... No
rights.

What utter Bull Shit! Why does it take a nonexistent being to grant you
rights? Conversely any government can reduce or eliminate your rights at any
time. Look at Saddam or Nazi Germany. Furthermore nature cares not about you
or me who are about as significant as a bacterium in this universe. Look
what happens when you're in the wrong place when a tsunami comes, a volcano
or a flood. No amount of praying makes any difference. Interestingly those
that fared the best in the recent tsunami were animals who are tuned to
nature, hear well and run fast. Humans pray, which works best?
Bob

 

[Aunty Kreist]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:ba70v012k5i412gi4t6ijjafiqqq9pembs@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:47:02 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:


uvcceet@juno.com> wrote in message
news:41efc8e5$1$woehfu$mr2ice@news.aros.net...
In <41efc801$1$woehfu$mr2ice@news.aros.net>, on 01/20/05
at 07:57 AM, uvcceet@juno.com said:

In <3595jsF4j4g2sU3@individual.net>, on 01/20/05
at 02:40 AM, "Aunty Kreist" <Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> said:

If killing an unborn child is not murder, how come scotty boy is
gonna
die >> for doing it?

Um....because he also killed the human the fetus was attached to.


Uh, no. The death penalty was imposed because he committed TWO
murders.
If the baby inside his wife had not been killed, or was not considered
to
be a living being, they jury could not have imposed the death
sentence.

I wonder what the outcome of the case would have been, had Lacy not been
as
far along in her pregnancy as she was.


So we can see, that it is murder to kill a baby inside the mother.
When
is it a baby? Go ahead and argue that one for the rest of your life.
Logic will answer that question to anyone who really considers it.

IMO, I say the third trimester should be considered as it being a baby.
Anything before that is a glob of cells.

---
IMO, you don't have to preface a sentence with IMO if it's blatantly
clear that it _is_ your opinion. By writing "I say" the IMO is
implicit, IMO.

So, IOW, you have nothing to add but a piece broken off from the stick up
your arse.

I do not inform other people what their opinion is, like you yourself have
done. When I post on something that may make others feel emotional, I put
IMO as a consideration.

--
John Fields

 

[Charlie Gibbs]

In article <4y27aWL+LC8BFwbS@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk (John Woodgate) writes:

I read in sci.electronics.design that uvcceet@juno.com wrote
(in <41f01908$3$woehfu$mr2ice@news.aros.net&gt about 'What Is God?',
on Thu, 20 Jan 2005:

Governments exist to insure rights, not to grant them. No God... No
rights.

Which god is this? Can you get personalised certificates of your human
rights for an appropriate fee, often called a 'tithe'?

Except when it's called an "indulgence".

--
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[Aunty Kreist]

"Electric dabbler" <no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:csp4ab$ok0$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

John Fields - Piss off and annoy other people with your Christian
right-wing claptrap. I always find it amusing how the same bunch of people
can get so worked up about such a technical issue yet there are real
people
dying all the time in the world from hunger and disease - if you didn't
have
your heads so far up your own arseholes you might have noticed this.

Philip

Dying of laughter here!

I'm sorry if I and others have gotten him all worked up! He's just so easy
to rattle...has to respond to every comment. But, he's getting the typical
hazing every fundie that spouts crappola gets. Is this something he does all
the time?

 

[Aunty Kreist]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:d7b0v0ddqg3amk30acdtgjgpemihhij2hv@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:28:59 +0000 (UTC), "Electric dabbler"
no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote:

John Fields - Piss off and annoy other people with your Christian
right-wing claptrap. I always find it amusing how the same bunch of
people
can get so worked up about such a technical issue yet there are real
people
dying all the time in the world from hunger and disease - if you didn't
have
your heads so far up your own arseholes you might have noticed this.

Philip

---
Philip - Go fuck yourself, and then tell me what, exactly _you're_
doing to alleviate the plight of those real people dying all the time
in the world from hunger and disease.

How many crack babies have you adopted, John?

--
John Fields

 

[Noah Roberts]

Aunty Kreist wrote:

No matter what
tactic you badly try to employ, the fact remains that you simply
cannot
control the beliefs, thoughts, and actions of others.
What if he used an electroprobe mind control device?

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:23:37 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
<Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:ba70v012k5i412gi4t6ijjafiqqq9pembs@4ax.com...

IMO, you don't have to preface a sentence with IMO if it's blatantly
clear that it _is_ your opinion. By writing "I say" the IMO is
implicit, IMO.

So, IOW, you have nothing to add but a piece broken off from the stick up
your arse.

---
??? I don't see where you got that from; it sounds like meaningless
"just throw something out there" to me.
---

I do not inform other people what their opinion is, like you yourself have
done.

---
That really bothers you doesn't it? Fact of the matter is, it was my
opinion that it was their opinion which was causing them a problem,
and I stated _what my opinion would be_ (without explicitly stating
that it was my opinion, excuuuuuuuse me) if I was in their shoes. A
view from a different perspective, if you like. (or if you don't. It
doesn't matter much to me.) I can't believe that you're so
thin-skinned that something like that would bother you, but if it did,
I apologize. It wasn't my intent to try to tell anyone what to
believe or what to do, only what I would do in a similar circumstance.

Happy now?


When I post on something that may make others feel emotional, I put

IMO as a consideration.

---
Awwwww...

I don't, usually, since I consider _everything_ personal to be
subjective and, consequently, an opinion.

But if that's how y'all play around here, it's easy enough to do.
But play nice, OK?

--
John Fields

 

[Clarence_A]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:5TrrCZMI5C8BFwZv@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that James Knott
james.knott@rogers.com> wrote (in
KfudndohSoFltW3cRVn-pQ@rogers.com&gt
about 'What Is God?', on Thu, 20 Jan 2005:

Someone recently told me, that only "Christians" could be
moral. When
you look at all the violence committed in "God's" name, it's
obvious
we're better off without him/her/it.

You shouldn't draw conclusions from what idiots say.

We generally ignore 'you' John!

 

[Clarence_A]

<uvcceet@juno.com> wrote in message
news:41f01908$3$woehfu$mr2ice@news.aros.net...

In <n4qdnZOjm_eEj23cRVnyvQ@eclipse.net.uk>, on 01/20/05
at 08:18 PM, "TripleEight" <888@msn.com> said:

Humans have always been afraid of the unknown and God easily
fits into
the scarey corner of the human mind.

Oh brother.... If there is no superior being, whence commeth the
basic
rights of living? If my right to be free and live as I choose
comes from
another human, then that right can be revoked. If I am only
allowed to
live because someone else says its okay, how long till that
right is taken
away as well.

Governments exist to insure rights, not to grant them. No God...
No
rights.

It's called enlightened self interest!
The simple fact is that enlightened self interest is the basis of
the survival of the species.

Also, the creator, is the chain of forbearers going back to the
time when there were no records kept.

 

[James Knott]

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

If, and I only said 'if' there is a God, then there is Satan, who is known
to be the consumate evil. IF there is a God, and you see evil, then
understand that the conflict between God and Satan has been going on since
before the world was formed, therefore, the awful evil you think you can
attribute to God, is actually that greatest of evil ever written about,
Lucifer.

It's still all a huge load of B.S..

 

[James Knott]

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

You must be so proud of your ancestors and your heritage......

And you must be so proud of your fairy tales, that you try to pass off as
reality.

 

[keith]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:04:10 -0600, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

"keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
newsan.2005.01.20.02.44.53.671827@att.bizzzz...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:25:51 -0600, Rhyanon wrote:

Backpedal away, dipshit -- you lose and you know it. HAH.

Lose to a top-poseur? Not possible.

You know that you're really a bottom. Why fight it?

--
Keith

Please stop cross posting.

After you, hypocrite.

--
Keith

 

[keith]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:35:47 -0600, Rhyanon wrote:

You know I am correct, and your laughable NG has been reduced to this.

Reduced? You really are a bottom. How's Bubba?

Suckit.

You couldn't find enough of yours to bother with.

--
Keith

<snip> ...what a stupid top-poster.

 

[ParaXerxes]

Bob Eldred wrote:

What utter Bull Shit! Why does it take a nonexistent being to grant you
rights?

It is not rational to designate an opinion as fact. Have you proof of your
nonsensical assertion? No you haven't, only opinion and a presumptuous and
narrow-minded pseudo-science of which thinks it's God.

What's more, arguments for and against this and that are immaterial to the
truth. They can't change truth one iota. But humans are too stupid to
realise that. I'm fed up to the teeth with dogmatic science inasmuch as I
am with dogmatic religion,etc.

 

[Rolavine]

From: toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson)

There is no proof that Bush lied. Please refer to a dictionary
for the definition of a lie,

Ahem "75% of Al Qaida leaders have been captured or killed" said by Bush dozens
of times during the campaign. This is a damn lie, and no one with either an
ounce of brains or integrity could manage to choke it out. In short, the prez
is a lying sack of it, and I trust him less than the average used car salesman.

Rocky

 

[keith]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:34:49 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:

In <9gJHd.7514$vC1.3542@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Ahmmm. Someone who unjustifiable takes a life should have his life
taken, imo.

I oppose - who has heard the saying (give or take a bit
word-for-word) "Why should we kill people who kill people in order to say
that killing people is wrong?"

Better still - how about a fate worse than death!

Better still; can you name a better solution for recitivism?

<snip>

--
Keith

 

[ParaXerxes]

arniefufkin wrote:

I'm gonna regret this but...."God" does not exist. "God" is a
theoretical model of the perfect human (notice I didn't say man - women
would have a field day with that one)

Prove it!

 

[Noah Roberts]

arniefufkin wrote:

Howzat?

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_15.php

hehehehehehe. I am so wicked!

Nah, just weak.

 

[xray]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:32:06 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:15:26 +0000, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Fields <jfields@austininstrum
ents.com> wrote (in <ik60v05pjc0hs834ar5hf33ra4pnctfgro@4ax.com&gt about
'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Thu, 20 Jan 2005:

BTW, have you got a clue about the origin of the universe?

It's at the point (0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0).

---
G

The plot thickens?^)

(thereafter)

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:18:42 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:53:51 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:08:49 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:50:20 GMT, "Kryten"
It would replace the world's human dating/job agencies with one automated
matching system.

Interestingly, dating services don't work very well. If two peoples'
objective profiles are matched - height, weight, careers, interests,
all that usual stuff - it doesn't at all indicate that anything will
click when they meet. It's far more effective to let them just sniff
one anothers' used t-shirts; HLA antigen matches (or, actually,
mismatches) are what makes for romance.

Or, one could undeny one's feeling-sense, and simply _know_.

Smell is how people know, without being conscious of it. In a sense,
it's not conscious "smell", but people are very aware of antigen
compatibility, and it is transmitted by odors. And a mother can pick
out her baby's clothing from lots of others without being conscious of
why.

Attributing the feeling-sense to "smell" is one of the main
misunderstandings. Dogs, for example, don't "smell" your fear, they
actually _feel_ it.

It's very difficult to sort out which of the feelings you're feeling are
your own - we're all empathic, and one of the first things newborns are
taught is to shut down, ignore, and ultimately deny, their feeling-sense.

This makes sense in its own way - when you're in the middle of an antenna
farm with nothing but a crystal set, it's difficult to resolve stations,
and it's terribly, terribly noisy.

This denial of the feeling-sense, by the way, is what causes pain and
suffering.

But, hey, when the first thing that happens to you is to get smacked, then
mutilated, and hated for crying out to be loved, it's understandable
people are pretty fucked up.

Thanks,
Rich