Driver to drive?

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Scott Stephens wrote:

I'm cross posting this, because I like to rant here so much =)

Perhaps because there are liberals, government orcs, and academics
parasites around. Anyways, a movie about Hollywood and the Democratic


party as it really is under the media propaganda and university
political correctness?


And you think the Republican party is any different? J.Edgar Hoover
remained head of the FBI until he died by (mis)using FBI resources to
collect sexual scandal on politicians of all parties, whom he then
black-mailed.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/hoover/2.html?sect=18

The trouble with you right-wing nit-wits is your remarkable ignorance.
---------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Yin is always better than Yang - or vice versa - I forget.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
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on the other side. When the magnet is close to the light it turns off,
when it isn't (when it is open) the light goes on.
We are working on a dedicated web site to sell these retail right now
at http://www.lightmybag.com
As of this writting it is not yet up, but should be within perhaps a
month. In the mean time you can visit http://www.ohiotravelbag.com or
e-mail info@ohiotravelbag.com for more information.
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:16:05 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:


That's pure semantic quibbling. I could have use 'numinous' instead.
What, a grammatical/spelling mistake? Is someone impersonating Mr
Woodgate? That's the only explanation.

Or just possibly an intermittent 'd' key.

John
 
Thanx for your reply.

I trying to implement via this method:
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/686

at the moment, i've not implemented an LPF yet, can always use the scope to
do that later.

I don't get what you mean by "Even if the mixer is specified for 800 to
2700MHz, the sum appears, is just doesn't see 50 Ohms anymore" can you
please explain?

I'm actually trying the get the signals as shown in figures 2 and 3 of the
mention article.

thanx!
kw

Crossposted to far too many groups, reply on s.e.d only
The LPF is
to remove the sum frequency RF+LO. Even if the mixer is
specified for 800 to 2700MHz, the sum appears, is just
doesn't see 50 Ohms anymore. Plus they don't specify
amplitude and phase.
How far down in amplitude were you able to measure ?

No, I didn't build it.

Rene
 
J.Edgar Hoover remained head of the FBI
One of my favorite quotes about J.E.H is from the series Homicide.
Belzer's character says "They've never been able to find anyone to fill
his bra".
 
In article <6ermt0936qbqih5m76at2hpv2lukdgfk1g@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:22:05 +0000 (UTC), the renowned
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:

[...]
Take a slice of quartz and drill a hole this big:


-----------------------------
H H ^
\ / Diameter of the hole
O V
-----------------------------

The water vapor can go through but bigger stuff can't.


Kind of like RO, eh?
Very like RO. In RO, you drill little holes in some plastic so that only
liquid water can get through. Drilling the plastic is harder because the
little bitty drill bit get stuck more easily.

--
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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
In article <crgh9o$u3l$1@news.net.uni-c.dk>,
Dieter Britz <britz@chem.au.dk> wrote:
[...]
Sawing slices off the ice would again contaminate the water,
unless you use a Pt saw. I believe Wayne has limited means...
If you used a water jet cutter running on ultra pure water, the
contamination issue could be solved.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
In article <OJZGkVDq972BFwfO@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
[...]
Quartz is a lot less soluble than glass. The trace of dissolved SiO2 may
not have much effect on the conductivity, since it doesn't ionize
appreciably.
Glass usually has metal impurities such as iron in it too.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
kw wrote:

Thanx for your reply.

I trying to implement via this method:
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/686

at the moment, i've not implemented an LPF yet, can always use the scope to
do that later.

I don't get what you mean by "Even if the mixer is specified for 800 to
2700MHz, the sum appears, is just doesn't see 50 Ohms anymore" can you
please explain?

When the 8347 is specified for 800 to 2700MHz, this doesn't mean
that nothing is coming out of it below 800 , nor above 2700,
it just means the data, here the amplitude and phase is not
specified.
A DC coupled mixer always works down to DC, for example.

I'm actually trying the get the signals as shown in figures 2 and 3 of the
mention article.
Is your scope that fast, that you can actually see the 1440 MHz ?

Rene
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:00:29 +0100, Dieter Britz <britz@chem.au.dk>
wrote:

Sawing slices off the ice would again contaminate the water,
unless you use a Pt saw. I believe Wayne has limited means...
Sublimate the outside in a vacuum, and use the core.

John
 
Hi, Joerg:

Thanks to you and everyone else who responded. There's a lot of good
ideas here.

I must confess some ignorance here. I don't really know what a T/R
switch in the T configuration is. I've seen T/R switches with four
diodes used in a bridge configuration, but what is the three diode
version?

I'm guessing it's something like this (plus some baising for D1 and
D2):

.. D1 D2
..Input>------|<|----------------|<|------->LNA
.. |
.. |
.. ---
.. \ / D3
.. ---
.. |
.. |
.. |
.. -----
.. ---
.. -




Do you know where I can get some more info on these type diode switch
circuits? I've tried some goggle searches but I didn't come up with
much.
 
In article <DDWCd.8456$5R.4947@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Mike Engelhardt <nospam@spam.org> wrote:
[....]
Very like RO. In RO, you drill little holes in some plastic so that only
liquid water can get through. Drilling the plastic is harder because the
little bitty drill bit get stuck more easily.

But what if you use a thinner cutting lubricate, like
used for thread tapping instead of regular cutting oil.
After you are done you have to clean out the hole. A chemical company
could make some:



C = C H H H H H H H H
// \\ ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
C C = C = C = C = C = C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C - H
\\ // ! ! ! ! ! ! !
C = C H H H H H H H


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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

And you think the Republican party is any different?
Not much.

J.Edgar Hoover
remained head of the FBI until he died by (mis)using FBI resources to
collect sexual scandal on politicians of all parties, whom he then
black-mailed.
Think of what he could have done with a department of "Homeland Security".
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:00:12 -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:

I'm still recovering from the shock I went into when people reported that
they routinely solder whole boards in one whump in a TOASTER
OVEN!!!!!!!!!!!

See the EZ-Bake group on Yahoogroups.
Yabbut, the point is, it's contrary to everything they said from day 1 of
soldering class: "Keep the part cool!" Heatsink transistor leads with
forceps, that sort of thing.

But a whole PCB, to solder temperature? How do they get away with that,
without all of the chips degrading?

Thanks,
Rich
 
In article <pan.2005.01.03.20.41.28.161910@neodruid.net>,
pigbladder@neodruid.net (Pig Bladder) writes:

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:04:29 -0600, Rhyanon wrote:

I don't bother to adjust my posts for morons too stupid to know
what's being discussed, you inbred, father fucking, whoreson.

Then I guess it's not necessary to read the posts of ignorami who use
obscenities to express their profound stupidity and arrogance.
Not to mention top-posting.

"Father rapers, sitting on the bench right next to me!"
-- Arlo Guthrie

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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:44:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 04 Jan 2005 00:17:18 GMT, the renowned bobgardner@aol.comma
(BobGardner) wrote:

No Freedom of speech.
No right to bear arms
No rights at all
=======================
Heard a story on NPR about working conditions there... 12hrs a day, 7 days a
week, poor ventilation, no restroom breaks, 20 cents an hour or something.....

OTOH, the factories supply room and board for their staff. And most
are making *way* more than they would be in agriculture.

Fifteen cents a day in a sweatshop beats zero cents a day on the street.

Thanks,
Rich
 
On 29 Dec 2004 17:03:49 -0800, "Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com>
wrote:

The data sheets for analog 4-quadrant multiplier-on-a-chip chips are
remarkably vague as to what goes on inside the chip. I'm thinking
specifically of the Anaalog Devices AD633 and the Burr-Brown MPY634,
which are (at my level of viewing) similar in overall function and
specs (but different in some details.)

Some thoughts:

1. One-quadrant multiplying doesn't seem too hard. Take the logs, add
the logs, exponentiate the log. Basic building blocks are things I
think I understand pretty well.

2. Four-quadrant multiplying is still somewhat a mystery. The AD633
just says it has a "translinear core". I have about as much
understanding of that as if they had said "dilithium crystals". The
MPY634 data sheet doesn't even say that much, it just jumps right into
an equation without relating it to any internal functions.

3. Maybe a four-quadrant multiplier can be done with a one-quadrant
multiplier, some absolute-value-taking circuits, and some comparators,
and a final multiply-by x1 or x-1 depending on the comparators.

4. One clue that the MPY634 and AD633 don't use the method I suggest
in (3) is a lack of symmetry in the X and Y inputs. One input always
has a linearity of maybe 4 times better linearity than the other. This
indicates to me that internally there is some assymetry that isn't
necessarily implied by my simple suggestion.

5. Maybe the "translinear core" is something like a Gilbert cell. Or
is it just a clever application of the Barrie patent that describes how
things like the AD603 work? (See my thread here from September about
how the AD603 works.) Even then that only gets you two quadrants...
but there is an assymetry in the input such that maybe some other trick
comes in.

So how many of my 5 thoughts above are completely and hopelessly wrong?
All 5? :)

If there's some Barrie patent that explains all this, I'd love to read
it. When I've been pointed directly towards them in the past, they were
always a joy to read. But I've got an exceptionally thick head and
unless I'm pointed towards a specific one my eyes still glaze over in
the claims section :-(

Tim.

Bunch of Gilbert cells, usually.

This has a schematic...

http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC1494-D.PDF


John
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:52:51 GMT, "Rich Grise, Libertarian"
<fuckyou@doubleclick.net> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:26:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:00:48 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net
...
I did see Colon[sic] Powell on TeeVee saying they'd sent like a dozen
C-130s. Big whoop. I wonder if we can draw any conclusions from this
little scenario?


How much have you donated so far?

Everything I can without shorting my own food budget. You know how they
brief you on loss of cabin pressure? (put on your own oxygen mask first
so that you don't become as useless as the victims) The hungry can't help
the hungry.
I'll take that for a zero.

How about you?
Nothing to this specific disaster, but we give a few K a year to DWB,
and my wife donates to some other save-the-kids thing.

Plus, I spend about $10K a month on my employees medical+dental stuff.


I don't personally control billions and billions of dollars. My life
savings is, at the time of this writing, #32.54.

And I'm one of the lucky ones, who actually +appreciates+ living in
a country where we're overflowing with largesse. I'm evidently just
fantasizing, that the folks with millions to spend on yachts and weapons
of mass destruction might find it in their hearts (as if they had one) to
extend some assistance to those who are truly in need.

But, like I said, I fantasize.

I've gotta be an idiot to think that some guy with $1,000,000,000.00 in
the bank wouldn't find it a hardship to contribute a buck or two. We
should all know that any dollar they withhold from charity deprives their
precious, precious children of their harvard/yale diplomas.
So many people expect somebody else, somebody better off, to do the
contributing, and get angry if they think they don't. Most convenient.

John
 
Hi Rene

thanx again for your prompt reply!

When the 8347 is specified for 800 to 2700MHz, this doesn't mean
that nothing is coming out of it below 800 , nor above 2700,
it just means the data, here the amplitude and phase is not
specified.
A DC coupled mixer always works down to DC, for example.
ok, noted.

Is your scope that fast, that you can actually see the 1440 MHz ?
yup, goes up to 4GHz.

Thanx!
kw
 

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