Driver to drive?

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:13:45 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Pip"
<Aetyr@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Dear Rich...you should smite as often as possible.
signed God
Pip
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I thought Rich should get out more often

Merry Paganism



martin

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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:12:30 GMT, in sci.electronics.design me
<me@spam.net> wrote:

Cheap labor
No EPA
No Osha
No unemployment
no benifits
no welfare
...................
................
................
the list goes on
no christmas?
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martin

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So *you're* the one driving AAPL up so much! You should have told me, I
wouldn't have had my wife get out at $35 (they said they were having
delivery problems with the G5). :-(
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Hey, my son's company gave mini iPods to all their employees (~350) for
a Xmas bonus. They ran, not walked to human resources to get theirs.
Cash woulda been better, but then again, why look a gift horse in the
mouth.

Al
 
I think you'd be better off trimming the list, keeping only 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
10, 13, 14, and 21.

Bill Smythe
 
Thanks everyone for your advice & suggestions, guess I'll just have to
spend the next few days in the shack sorting things out and miss out on
all the festive jollities ........ O Dear !! What a pity !!!!
--
Dick
GM0MNL
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:11:18 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
<salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:


There is simply *nothing* that cant be included with the Darwinian
axioms. We can even argue that there have been billions of big bangs,
with the laws of physics undergoing a darwinian process until such laws
allow us to exist.
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OK, everything is Darwinian because everything depends on something
else existing before, so everything has evolved from something else,
and some randomness is always involved.

Whoopee.

That helps me design electronics not at all.

John
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:11:55 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Scott Stephens wrote:
Mike Page wrote:

Kevin Aylward wrote:

Of course there's nothing didactical about AoE; electronic design
is an art.

Not at all. It is indeed a "science".

Science isn't engineering.

It is in the sense I am using the word. That's why its in quotes. dah...

In this context I am referring to both science and engineering being
disciplines of objectivity. That is, their procedures can be systemised
in a way that is difficult to do for say, art as in painting. Sure, one
can use a bit of geometry in a painting, but for the most part, a
painting is subjective.

Science is about systematic knowledge,

As is engineering. What universe do you live in?
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The Real One. How about you?
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, still waiting for
some hot babe to ask what my favorite planet is.
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:52:50 +0100, martin griffith
<martingriffith@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:13:45 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Pip"
Aetyr@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Dear Rich...you should smite as often as possible.
signed God
Pip

I thought Rich should get out more often
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I thought it was hilarious. Leviticus in general is great for a laugh.
Crustaceans ain't bad, either. ;-)
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.
 
Enjoy some of the good things of America.

================================
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- - - and if you can remain unaware of the mess left behind by your weapons
of mass destruction in Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lebanon, Lybia,
Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and now for 13 years in Iraq, etc., then so much
the better.

PS.1. Sorry, I tried hard, but couldn't resist the invitation.
PS.2 I sincerely wish all USA Citizens a very happy, contented, peaceful
Christmas.
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:07:05 GMT, Scott Stephens <scottxs@comcast.net>
wrote:



And what method will the aristocracy employ to correct my deviant
thought?
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The cruelest and most effective: they will ignore you.

John
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:20:03 GMT, Scott Stephens <scottxs@comcast.net>
wrote:


I am. Freedom to speek my mind, and say this looks like dogshit, smells
like dogshit, feels like dogshit and tastes like dogshit.
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If it dies look and smell like doggie doo, why go on to feel and taste
it? Why not just step over it?

John
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Scott Stephens
<scottxs@comcast.net> wrote (in <5uYyd.806592$8_6.572165@attbi_s04>)
about 'Horowitz-Hill: Serious scholarly query', on Fri, 24 Dec 2004:

Life has an objective purpose relative to the
universe - maximize entropy and order matter and energy at a high level
the way it is organized at a low level.
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Life locally *minimizes* entropy.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:07:05 GMT, Scott Stephens <scottxs@comcast.net
wrote:



And what method will the aristocracy employ to correct my deviant
thought?

The cruelest and most effective: they will ignore you.
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Those who the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
 
Hal Murray wrote:

I think the stuff that changes over time should be put on line.
e.g. the list of preferred commonly used parts.

That's a good idea, but it assumes we'll keep it up to date. <sigh

Shouldn't be too hard. It doens't change very often and you'll
get reminders here when something interesting changes. (Probably
flame wars too.)

I wonder if you could merge the maintaince of a list like that
into a purchasing system or CAD system. Maybe a 1 to 10 rating
and a comment about anything special when the part number is
assigned or an order is placed.

Years ago, Motorola used to have a tag for their parts that
were high volume and easy to get and ... "Recommended" or
something like that.
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You can often find the most commonly used part by looking at the
prices in the Digikey catalog. If they sell a lot of something,
they keep the price low.
 
On 23 Dec 2004 18:30:29 -0800, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

I think the stuff that changes over time should be put on line.
e.g. the list of preferred commonly used parts.

That's a good idea, but it assumes we'll keep it up to date. <sigh
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You take on the Herculean efforts to help create it, setting aside all that may
be important in life to do some tiny good, and it hounds you until the day you
die.

Might as well accept it, Win. You will be in your death bed with a newfangled
brain attachment to a PC, updating "the darned book," yet again. I'd recommend
you get the connectors installed now while you can still heal up better, and
start helping some software folks develop the programs you'll be needing then.

;)

I want to be looking forward to the 4th edition, you know. :)

Jon
 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:30:38 -0500, Gene S. Berkowitz
<first.last@comcast.net> wrote:

In article <41cc7b98$0$6220$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl says...

"Charles W. Johson Jr." <qrus19@mindsprUng.com past to present> schreef in
bericht news:cA_yd.9141$9j5.752@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Actually one of the major problems with the Windows OS is that so many
Computer Science and bussiness manager types write it. They honestly
believe
that grandma being able to use the computer is more important than the
fact
that some computer expert will complain about a 20X wait for his computer
to
boot. Personally I'd like a nice clean interface that doesn't use the hard
disk drive at all something along the lines of the old Commodore sytem
where
the OS is all in ROM, though probably better make it flash RAM or some
such
for the PC. I've thought of trying to develop a board that would use the
standard ATA interface and could save the OS to a memory set but I'm just
a
computer programmer with some EET.

Grandma *is* more important. Complaining about a 20x boot time is nonsense.
How many times do you boot? I turn on my computer each morning, get a
coffee,
turn on the radio and see what's in my inbox.

Windows takes a lot of time to boot, because it checks a lot of things
during
the boot. Depending on what you installed on top of it, it may take a while
longer. In a network, it takes another extra amount of time, getting a new
IP address perhaps, making connections to other PC's that were part of the
game the day before. Yes, that takes a bit of time.

As a result, you can swap hardware, or put your entire drive in a new
PC and it will work. Windows will discard old drivers for hardware that
has dissapeared and try to find new drivers for the new hardware. That
is incredibly impressive.

I started on a DEC PDP-8/L with 4K of core memory. Due to a never-
determined hardware problem, the FOCAL interpreter was often damaged
and had to be reloaded from paper tape. We would key in the boot loader
using the front panel toggle switches, then start the tape, which took
approximately 20 minutes to load. Someone had to babysit the paper tape
as it spooled out, keeping it in a nice fanfold so it wouldn't tangle.

So, yes, a three-minute startup is fine with me.

--Gene
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I had a high-speed paper tape reader, so it wasn't bad. And Focal
seemed to be very reliable... I could run apps for weeks without
reloading. I got a lot of mileage out of Focal-11, too; I actually
contributed the random number generator to Rick Merrill (I did a
pseudorandom xor shift register in software, replacing his classic old
modulo code) and got acknowledged in the source code.

But it's not very fair to compare 35-year old iron running at 1 MHz to
modern stuff. But I recall loading Focal-11 from high-speed paper tape
in about the same time as my Windows boots today. I could load it from
magtape in a second or two.

John
 
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:30:59 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
Ah, you can be really entertaining at times. Keep those stories
coming! You seem to have a lot in common with your neighbour,
except being gay ;)
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Well, he *does* let me borrow his chainsaw.

John
 
Subject: Re: OT: Safe Riddles
From: Rich Grise rich@example.net
Date: 12/24/04 1:52 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: <pan.2004.12.24.07.05.16.251659@example.net
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Hi, Rich. I cracked up telling most of them to my 12 year old daughter (a
couple were omitted). She was not as amused, but a couple got giggles.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays
Chris
 
Kevin Aylward wrote:
Genes can't self-replicate.
Neither can viruses.
Genes are physical, memes are virtual.
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It's all a question of measure. Virii, genes and memes all
self-replicate, and all need a certain physical environment
in order to replicate. They only differ in the constitution
of that environment.
 
Just so I can claim to be the very first to say so...

The third edition sucks! The second edition was WAY better!
I liked the black-on-white type better than the new maroon
on fuschia color scheme, I hate the fact that the component
values are all in octal, and I don't care how fond Winfield
is of the Klingon language; he should have stuck with English.

Remember, you heard it here first.
 
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