Driver to drive?

[Paul Burridge]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:41:19 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:17:52 -0600, the renowned john@spamoff.com
wrote:

Hey guys, just publish is yourself. Given the access to information that
the net provides, search it out, and find places to do it on your own.
Yes, you have to put up the money, but if you believe in the book........

Its not easy to get into mainstream publishing, but if you publish it,
again, the net can help you advertise it, and book stores almost always
have space on the shelf for such items. Takes a bit of work, and then
legwork to get it on the shelf, but it might be the only way to get there
from here.

Been done by a lot of people, and many of their books hit the best seller
list even tho they go around the established system.

John

Examples?

Jeffrey (Lord) Archer springs to mind. He made a point of going around
half the bookshops in Britland asking where the Jeffrey Archer books
were kept. Though totally talentless, Archer became hugely successful
and has seen his crap translated into dozens of languages. This is
almost solely due to his drive and determination.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:24:57 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

"Robert Oschler" <no-mail-please@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HeidnT5RRsTdyuDcRVn-pA@adelphia.com...
Did anybody else notice that the some of the buildings in the miniature
North Korea city set, were leftover Chinese food containers from a Chinese
take-out restaurant? I nearly died laughing when I saw this.

Thanks


A bid for realism?

LOL! Nice one. :-D
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

In <pan.2004.10.25.18.59.57.846969@example.net>, on 10/25/04 at 06:53 PM,
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> said:

If you're insisting on DIY, rather than something off the shelf, e.g.:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=video+distribution+amp

Its not that I insist, its the customer who has physical and feature
requirements that are not found on commercially available switches. Off the
shelf is not an option.

I will continue to search for more details.

Thanks,

John

 

[Jonathan Kirwan]

On 25 Oct 2004 12:02:06 -0700, junaid.uppal@gmail.com (Junaid Uppal) wrote:

I am currently working on a project to implement 4-bit division using
logic gates / registers etc ( Basic Level DLD Stuff ). I've been
searching online / offline for a lot of time now but haven't found
anything that can help me implement my circuit. Can anyone help me out
in making this circuit please? some pointers / logic diagrams or
anything.

Should be plenty on the web for this, I'd imagine. Combinatorial methods would
use a set of compare and mux stages, one pair of these for each output result
bit, plus a little more stuff. Sequential methods would use a single
subtractor, shifter, and a little glue. But the methods are basic stuff. Have
you looked?

Jon

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:23:15 -0700, Chris Carlen wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
[edit]
Rich,

I saw your brief posting the other day about just giving out infinite
credit lines to everyone. I don't claim to know whether it would work
or not, nor do I wish to invest considerable effort analyzing it. I
would be interested to read your essays, just out of curiosity, for a
sense of its plausibility.

I simply wonder why your economic thinking is so divergent from the
"usual" libertarian economic thinking? (Not that having a different
viewpoint is bad of course; actually it's the whole point!)

The quick and dirty answer is that I'm first and foremost a believer

in "Free Will" in its fully idealized form, i.e. The Garden of Eden.
So, so far, it only exists in Imaginationland, that I know of. ;-)

When Free Will is fully realized, money becomes irrelevant, becuase
your will, through your intuition and senses, guides you precisely
to wherever whatever it is you need, is. And whoever's there, who
has it, wants something that you have, but are done with, and you
trade, and both are happier and more complete.

We're just at an intermediary evolutionary stage, where goods get shuffled
around and people exchange stuff that partly meets their needs, and split
the difference in money, and like that. Like, today, the place where what
you want is, is the store, and you exchange some money, because the
store's engineering needs are already met. And so the wheel turns, forever
amen, yadda yadda blah yawn belch fart scratch.

So it's just an idealistic fantasy - in the real world, today, I'd
like to cop to libertarian, and take this opportunity for a word from
our sponsor -

Even enlightened republicans are voting Badnarik:
http://www.libertyforall.net/
(Of course, the nazis will want this page burned, because it has
"liberty for all" in the name)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:13:17 +0200, Rene Tschaggelar wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

I've decided I'm going to write a book. Screw it, I sit here
and claim I have a theory that explains everything, dammit,
I ought to have the hairs to put my mouth where my mouth is.

Now the big question, which will, of course, be everyone's
first objection: If I know everything, howcome I can't figure
out how to get money?

Not really.
The answer to everything was already answered and is 43.

I forgot whether they decided to build the big massively
parallel computer called EARTH before or after the answer
above. Possibly after, as the simulation EARTH is still
running. Ah, yes. The answer was not detailed enough.

But Earth is a living organism. Which organ are you?

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:41:45 +0000, Electric dabbler wrote:

Who cares - this group is about ELECTRONICS - I know Bush probably cannot
spell a word that long but that's not good enough reason to clutter up the
news server with crap

So, surely you'll tell us what _is_ a good enough reason to not only
clutter up the news server with crap, but to clutter up the news server
with old, used crap, requoting the very post he's bitching about?

Asshole.

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <14ttutlujt1k7.sumxbfrkygma.dlg@40tude.net>,
Bob Stephens <stephensyomamadigital@earthlink.net> wrote:
[... me ...]

They don't. The socialists have the problem of having opened the feedback
loop. This is the basic weakness in their system. You must somehow have
feedback to the makers of goods to say that they are the goods that people
want and the quality is good enough. Going out of business is a brutal
but effective form of feedback to companies.

You're also going to need some sort of "those who will not work shall not
eat" ethic imposed somewhere. Otherwise it's going to be tough to convince
anyone to come pick up your trash...

It doesn't have to be a vital need you withhold. Most people will work to
better their lot even if they have a full belly and a room with a bed.

--
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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <10nqcda1nqbr7a3@corp.supernews.com>,
Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
[...]

Even a simple R-C filter might be helpful.
[..]
Any filter that you put on there to limit bandwidth is going to reduce
the slew rate, whether you're doing it at the chip or after. The only
thing that you may gain with post-filtering is a better control of the
slew rate at the putative detector threshold, but you're not going to
get _that_ by randomly tossing in ferrite beads at the EMI house.

... unless he can stand making the fundamental bigger. If he used a 1KVp-p
sinewave, he would get a big slew rate near zero.
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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <6a91ce9e.0410251531.23b8cf44@posting.google.com>,
Terry <t2hst@yahoo.com> wrote:

All,

Off a PIR motion detector I get a 24 volt output and when it detects
someone the pulse drops to zero for about 4 seconds. I want to trigger
a 555 timer to output about a 1/2 second pulse. What is the standard
way to take this long trigger and shorten it? Thanks.

Ascii art:


VCC
VCC !
! \
--- /
^ D1 \ R1
! !
------!!--+--+--+---TRIG and THR
C1 !
---
^ D2
!
GND


Warning: If the signal source has a low impedance, put a resistor in
series with C1 that is smaller than R1 but more than about 100 Ohms.

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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Robert Monsen]

Terry wrote:

All,

Off a PIR motion detector I get a 24 volt output and when it detects
someone the pulse drops to zero for about 4 seconds. I want to trigger
a 555 timer to output about a 1/2 second pulse. What is the standard
way to take this long trigger and shorten it? Thanks.

Terry

VCC
.--------.
| |
\ -----
/ ^
R \ / \ D1
/ -----
|| | |
PIR --------||-------o--------o----- 555 Trigger
|| |
C -----
^
/ \ D2
-----
|
GND

created by Andy´s ASCII-Circuit v1.25.250804 www.tech-chat.de

When the PIR sensor goes to 0V, it'll drag the 555 trigger down
momentarily, triggering the 555 monostable. The R*C constant determines
how long. The diodes prevent the 555 trigger from getting an input
outside its voltage rail, although depending on the variant, this may
not make any difference.

When the PIR comes back up, the diode will prevent the trigger from
going above the VCC.

Note that 24V is too high for VCC for most 555s. Look up the datasheet
on the web for the 555 you are using to determine what the voltage
should be.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:21:10 +0000, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:igsln05rj93lt2142779somkvhda6e2pjq@4ax.com...
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:20:53 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

Look at the
two-fold symmetry of our bodies and nearly everything around us and
it's easy to see. Well, either easy or difficult...

Ever notice that animals have 2-fold symmetry and plants have radial
symmetry?

Not before this guy did:

http://www.arthuryoung.com/ruexc.html

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Dbowey wrote:

You are both idiots.

Ehh-shut the hell up, Ms Bitch.

This whole damn newsgroup has gone to hell with OT.

The don't read it.

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <ce05fab9.0410242150.63716555@posting.google.com>,
Greg K <gregk@anywhereusa.com> wrote:
[...]

Can someone give me some details as to how I would go about measuring
instantaneous voltage and current?

You don't really measure an instantaneoud value. You measure quickly
enough that the number you get is a good estimate of the instantaneous
value.

Imagine that you have a 20KHz sine wave. Now imagine that you run it into
an ADC that samples it at a 1MHz rate. You will get 50 points on the
sinewave. With 50 points, you could draw straight lines between the
points and get something that looks a lot like the real curve.

That's the concept. Now you just have to figure out how few points on the
highest frequency are enough to give a good result. I think that sampling
at 100KHz would be more than fast enough for anything audio.


Sort of BASIC program:


1 PrevVolts = 0
2 AVGPower = 0

3 loop till bored

4 Current = ADC(CurrentChannel)
5 NewVolts = ADC(VoltsChannel)
6 NewPower = Current * (PrevVolts + NewVolts)/2
7 AVGPower = AVGPower + NewPower * TimeFactor
8 AVGPower = AVGPower - AVGPower * TimeFactor
9 Display AVGPower
10 PrevVolts = NewVolts
11 END-of-loop

Lines 1 and 2 just set stuff up.
3 means just keep looping

4 Assumes that you can read the ADC much like an array. This isn't very
likely but it is easy to understand.

5 is like 4

6 Makes the power at this instant in time. We average the previous
voltage with the new one because the current measurement is actually
between those times so we interpolate the value of the voltage when the
current actually got measured.

7 and 8 work like an RC time constant. TimeFactor is a number between 0
and 1. In real life, line 7 would not include the multiply and the result
would be scaled up.




Hope this helps.

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[Fred Bloggs]

Product developer wrote:

Bloggs is an established loser here. I
don't even respond to his fuzzy logic posts anymore. He is lowest a
human being can reach prior to eating a bullet but you can blame
smoking pot on your idiocy. You can stop smoking grass and possibly
return to the working class. Tomorrow Bloggs will still be a trailer
trash loser but you could be sober and on a path to recovery.

Hey- thnx for the plug, nouveau boy and shopping cart wheel designer.
How is the work with those young boys going?- Anything *exciting*? Do
those "private" lessons require some of them to stay over night?

 

[John S. Dyson]

In article <clk1oe$pjc$1@blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:

In article <clitko$2796$3@news.iquest.net>,
John S. Dyson <toor@iquest.net> wrote:
[...]
Remember: the intelligence agencies from ALL OVER THE WORLD were
giving input that Saddam was planning this, planning that, etc.

It is the same folks that promiced us WMDs in Iraq that are telling us
that.

Yes, like Mr Putin made such a claim (Saddam was readying a terror

attack.) It wasn't just Bush.

We
really need a stronger, more effective CIA (fix the problems -- whatever
is needed),

The CIA has been an intelligence side show since before Bush #1. They
serve mostly to distract attention from the real ones.

The CIA has been weak since the Church commission in 1975, and made much

weaker in 1995 by getting rid of almost all HUMINT capability. HUMINT
has been EVEN MORE critical since the fall of the Soviets.

but alas, Clinton worked to weaken the CIA...

Given the fact that they could not find Dan. Shore when he was on public
radio (During Nixon) I think that we can conclude that any money given to
the CIA is mostly wasted.

Remember: the CIA is an organization that isnt' really allowed to work

internal to the US. The Patriot act partially allows the FBI to share
some info with CIA (vice versa), and allows for better integration of
internal and external intelligence. The primary benefit of the Patriot
act is to allow such integration of intelligence, but too often the
other side-defects are over emphasized. (The biggest risk nowadays
to allowing CIA involvement is perhaps the loss of a criminal case,
but at least the information can be used to protect the nation.)

Geesh, stealing/destroying information from opposition political
headquarters is now a regular Democrat activity...

I'd really like to see a site on that claim. I have heard of abuses from
both sides but not really a number to rank up there with Watergate from
either.

Please refer to the attacks against GOP headquarters over the last few

weeks. In one case, there were orchestrated attacks against multiple
locations at the same time. The information is in the public arena, but
probably not exposed in the leftist biased media. (Actually, it was
in far-left CNN.com and other such sources, but they have little/no interest
in keeping the information in the public arena.) For attacks against
the Dems, it might be as severe as protesters external to the 'storefront',
but the attacks against the GOP have included broken glass and stolen
papers.

John

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:41:45 +0000, Electric dabbler wrote:

Who cares - this group is about ELECTRONICS - I know Bush probably cannot
spell a word that long but that's not good enough reason to clutter up the
news server with crap


So, surely you'll tell us what _is_ a good enough reason to not only
clutter up the news server with crap, but to clutter up the news server
with old, used crap, requoting the very post he's bitching about?

Asshole.

Much better to have " Me I want good cerkyut LED plan. Pleez send now.
TIA, Klesh"

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:02:19 +0000, John S. Dyson wrote:

Remember: the CIA is an organization that isnt' really allowed to work
internal to the US.

Remember: John S. Dyson is an unwitting dupe of the New American Nazi
Party.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:45:18 +0000, Ken Smith wrote:

In article <14ttutlujt1k7.sumxbfrkygma.dlg@40tude.net>,
Bob Stephens <stephensyomamadigital@earthlink.net> wrote:
[... me ...]
They don't. The socialists have the problem of having opened the feedback
loop. This is the basic weakness in their system. You must somehow have
feedback to the makers of goods to say that they are the goods that people
want and the quality is good enough. Going out of business is a brutal
but effective form of feedback to companies.

You're also going to need some sort of "those who will not work shall not
eat" ethic imposed somewhere. Otherwise it's going to be tough to convince
anyone to come pick up your trash...

It doesn't have to be a vital need you withhold. Most people will work to
better their lot even if they have a full belly and a room with a bed.

And, there are machines for a lot of the drudgery, and some people

actually work because they _feel_ like it, strange as that might
sound. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Robert Monsen]

John S. Dyson wrote:

In article <clk1oe$pjc$1@blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:

In article <clitko$2796$3@news.iquest.net>,
John S. Dyson <toor@iquest.net> wrote:
[...]

Remember: the intelligence agencies from ALL OVER THE WORLD were
giving input that Saddam was planning this, planning that, etc.

It is the same folks that promiced us WMDs in Iraq that are telling us
that.


Yes, like Mr Putin made such a claim (Saddam was readying a terror
attack.) It wasn't just Bush.

No, Saddam wasn't readying a terrorist attack. Putin says now that he
had some evidence of this at the time.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/18/russia.warning/

This has never been corroborated by anybody else. President Bush has
himself stated there was no connection between Saddam and terrorist
attacks on the US.

Putin has a political axe to grind with the Democrats.

<http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Russia%20US%20Election>

There has never been any independent evidence of this uncovered in the
18 or so months we've been banging the heck out of Iraq. This story is
false, possibly a political quid pro quo to Bush for not condemning
Putin's illegal takeover of Russia.

We
really need a stronger, more effective CIA (fix the problems -- whatever
is needed),

The CIA has been an intelligence side show since before Bush #1. They
serve mostly to distract attention from the real ones.


The CIA has been weak since the Church commission in 1975, and made much
weaker in 1995 by getting rid of almost all HUMINT capability. HUMINT
has been EVEN MORE critical since the fall of the Soviets.


but alas, Clinton worked to weaken the CIA...

Given the fact that they could not find Dan. Shore when he was on public
radio (During Nixon) I think that we can conclude that any money given to
the CIA is mostly wasted.


Remember: the CIA is an organization that isnt' really allowed to work
internal to the US. The Patriot act partially allows the FBI to share
some info with CIA (vice versa), and allows for better integration of
internal and external intelligence. The primary benefit of the Patriot
act is to allow such integration of intelligence, but too often the
other side-defects are over emphasized. (The biggest risk nowadays
to allowing CIA involvement is perhaps the loss of a criminal case,
but at least the information can be used to protect the nation.)


Geesh, stealing/destroying information from opposition political
headquarters is now a regular Democrat activity...

I'd really like to see a site on that claim. I have heard of abuses from
both sides but not really a number to rank up there with Watergate from
either.


Please refer to the attacks against GOP headquarters over the last few
weeks. In one case, there were orchestrated attacks against multiple
locations at the same time. The information is in the public arena, but
probably not exposed in the leftist biased media. (Actually, it was
in far-left CNN.com and other such sources, but they have little/no interest
in keeping the information in the public arena.) For attacks against
the Dems, it might be as severe as protesters external to the 'storefront',
but the attacks against the GOP have included broken glass and stolen
papers.

You say the "liberal media' is hiding it. Typical paranoid ranting.

I've already debunked this breakin story in another thread.

The RNC headquarters in Seattle was ROBBED, by THIEVES. They took MONEY.
It was robbed AGAIN, and they took MONEY. This also happened to the
democratic headquarters in Toledo, OH. At first, they believed that it
was politically motivated, but now they have changed their tune:

http://www.wnwo.com/Global/story.asp?S=2463091

This Dyson character just won't quit lying.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.