Driver to drive?

Rich Grise wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:46:43 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> schreef in bericht
news:pan.2004.10.15.18.17.18.449165@example.net...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:
...
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you
have?

Michael Badnarik.
http://www.lp.org/campaigns/pres

And everybody knows one vote doesn't make any difference - So vote
Libertarian
just for the fun of it! Just to do that one little rebellious thing

...

I admit that a protest vote has its value. But don't make the mistake
that one vote doesn't make a difference. There are many that think like
you, so it isn't really one vote you are talking about. It would be, if
you flipped a coin to make a decision, but as soon as there is some
reasoning behing your voting behaviour, it *does* make a difference, and
not only to yourself.

Then it's all the more important to get the message out to smart people
all over the land! If enough of us pull together, and bring our friends
and families to their senses - hey, we'd only need 34% of the vote, right?
With JK at 32.5% and GWB at 32.5%, we'd win! Or better yet, only 34% of
the states!

I just did a little arithmetic - that's SEVENTEEN STATES! The Brass Ring
is Within Our Reach!

LET'S DO IT!!!!!
I usually avoid these OT things. Mainly because I know nothing about the usual
subjects. But nothing else is going on in this NG tonight so I read it because
I was bored.

Now, I have no idea whose side of the fence you are on but do you Americans
have *any* idea of what us folks outside the USA think of Dubbya? It's hardly
flattering.

Gibbo
 
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:35:20 +0000, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Tom Seim wrote:
Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<416E92E2.60807@nospam.com>...

Bush has made several characteristics of his leadership style clear: 1)
he refuses to acknowledge reality, 2) he refuses to acknowledge that he
made *any* mistakes whatsoever


Sounds like you, fredrook.

You have been reduced to a minor annoyance because the dam of Bush
deception has broken and the truth is pouring through. To quote your
brain-damaged Bush "it's just that simple"- it's real simple, US foreign
policy has been transformed into a war policy from which thousands of
corporate backers of the RNC are profiting on an enormous scale, health
....
occurring in clear violation of the purpose of US law?
So, what do we do? Who's going to bring all these people up on charges?
Who guards the guardians?

Thanks,
Rich
 
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:25:01 +0000, Fred Bloggs wrote:
....
world of hallucinations of superiority, a form of self-preservation at
which he should be very well-practiced by now since he is a complete phony.
Wanna learn to channel that rage into something more useful than ranting
at idiots?

Thanks,
Rich
 
ChrisGibboGibson wrote:
Now, I have no idea whose side of the fence you are on but do you Americans
have *any* idea of what us folks outside the USA think of Dubbya? It's hardly
flattering.
Do you care what I think about Blair?

Do the Iraqi's care what I thought about Saddam?

Do any nationals care about what outsiders think about their leader? For
99.999% of outsiders, their opinion of an extranational leader is based solely
on news/media -- hardly suitable to make an informed decision.
 
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:05:32 -0700, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:

time. But you want other stuff. So, what if you took, say, a 40-char
alpha display, and put it in the field of view of the camera? Take a
picture of your telemetry! Scroll it across like a little marquee. :)

Depth of field problems. My camera is inside a submarine and the
display must be within an inch or so of the lens. The objects I'm
interested in seeing are at infinity.
So give your camera a bifocal. °-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
Julie wrote:

ChrisGibboGibson wrote:
Now, I have no idea whose side of the fence you are on but do you Americans
have *any* idea of what us folks outside the USA think of Dubbya? It's
hardly
flattering.

Do you care what I think about Blair?
Nope. But it could hardly be any worse than what most Brits think about him.

Do the Iraqi's care what I thought about Saddam?

Do any nationals care about what outsiders think about their leader? For
99.999% of outsiders, their opinion of an extranational leader is based
solely
on news/media -- hardly suitable to make an informed decision.
And a very good evening to you to my dear.

Gibbo
 
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:54:58 -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:

IIRC nasa does something like this, with a data stream on a couple of lines
of the video. They float it across the screen, so that it never consistently
obscures any part of the screen. Looks reasonable to encode, but decoding
could be a bear.
Problem is, he doesn't have access to the raw video.

But I been thinkin' - a freaking submarine has got to be a pretty
high-budget project, wouldn't you think? I think it'd be worth it to hack
into the stupid camera, and probe it, and figure out where to inject the
danged telemetry signal on top of the video. It will be only one point,
after all. You might want to pick up sync, so two. Not counting ground.
Well, you get the idea. :)

Good Luck!
Rich
 
rcam001@hotmail.com (rob) wrote:

Hey... I need to extend the length of the sensor wire of an el-cheepo
radio shack outdoor thermometer. How long before I run into a
problem??
Been there, done it. About 60 feet total cable length.

...also if I replaced sensor with another thermistor with
different properties will read out of temperature be off??
Yes

if so will
it be consistantly off so I could easily adust after I calibrated?
No

Gibbo
 
"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041015180054.03602.00002353@mb-m04.aol.com...

I usually avoid these OT things. Mainly because I know nothing about the
usual
subjects. But nothing else is going on in this NG tonight so I read it
because
I was bored.

Now, I have no idea whose side of the fence you are on but do you
Americans
have *any* idea of what us folks outside the USA think of Dubbya? It's
hardly
flattering.
Yes we do. But it is of no import. Smart Americans realize GWB is the
third incarnation of Cincinnatus. Unfortunately, they are many less than
smart Americans! ;^)
 
I tried to extend the cable on a Jaycar indoor outdoor thermometer without
success.

From what I could work out the cable's capacitance is part of an RC
oscillator, as well as the thermistor. The frequency of the oscillator is
counted to obtain the temperature. Extending the cable (in my case an extra
10 meters or so using telephone cable) resulted in unusable readings. As
the same counter was used for both indoor and outdoor reading I couldn't see
any easy way around this problem so I made do without an extended cable.

This may not be the case with your unit.

Regards
Barry

"rob" <rcam001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:930e94cb.0410151442.6a4a338@posting.google.com...
Hey... I need to extend the length of the sensor wire of an el-cheepo
radio shack outdoor thermometer. How long before I run into a
problem??...also if I replaced sensor with another thermistor with
different properties will read out of temperature be off?? if so will
it be consistantly off so I could easily adust after I calibrated?

Thanks rob
 
Frank Bemelman wrote:
"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:41704F6C.43FCA600@nospam.com...

[snip]

Do any nationals care about what outsiders think about their leader? For
99.999% of outsiders, their opinion of an extranational leader is based
solely
on news/media -- hardly suitable to make an informed decision.

What do you base your opinion on, besides news/media?
Economy (local, national), policy/laws, taxes, deductions, benefits (to
society), costs (of society), infrastructure, product costs, privileges,
responsibilities, attitudes, etc. The news/media _should_ have very little to
do w/ my decision.
 
Olive wrote:
I'm French electronic student, I need some informations about airborne
communications and data management solutions to airlines.
I need also technicals documentations aviation electronics systems,
electromagnetic compatibility, transmissions capacities.
Please send me your contacts or some internet links, technical Books,
etc....

Thank you.
www.connexionbyboeing.com
www.tenzing.com
www.inmarsat.org
www.loralskynet.com

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:paul@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.
 
John Larkin wrote:

Caps lock is indispensable, as real programmers code in uppercase.
Hmmmm !

Funny that back around '89 I was considered by some engineers to be a programming expert
exactly because I *didn't* use upper case ( except for things like logical operators and
the like ).

Graham
 
Ken Finney wrote:
"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041015180054.03602.00002353@mb-m04.aol.com...


I usually avoid these OT things. Mainly because I know nothing about the

usual

subjects. But nothing else is going on in this NG tonight so I read it

because

I was bored.

Now, I have no idea whose side of the fence you are on but do you

Americans

have *any* idea of what us folks outside the USA think of Dubbya? It's

hardly

flattering.


Yes we do. But it is of no import. Smart Americans realize GWB is the
third incarnation of Cincinnatus. Unfortunately, they are many less than
smart Americans! ;^)
Ah, Cincinatus, the great dictator who saved Rome in 16 days, then
returned to his plow. Hardly. His stupid, arrogant, vanity war in Iraq
has cost far more lives than it could have possibly saved, while
weakening us both internally, in the form of our economy, and
externally, in the form of fear of our military.

Given the way things are going, I'd say he is more like Caligula (little
boot). Wild youth. Pretty boy. Gets power because of family connections.
Sponsors huge, ruinous giveaways to make people love him. Starts show
wars in an attempt to ingratiate himself with the masses. Messes things
up so badly that his own military turns against him, and takes him out.

http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/caligula.html

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
 
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:27:44 +0000, ChrisGibboGibson wrote:

Clarence wrote:


"Olive" <olivierdominguez@free.fr> wrote in message
news:f1b21c8c.0410151037.1b95600d@posting.google.com...
I'm French electronic student, I need some informations about airborne
communications and data management solutions to airlines.
I need also technicals documentations aviation electronics systems,
electromagnetic compatibility, transmissions capacities.
Please send me your contacts or some internet links, technical Books,
etc....
Thank you.


Do your own home work!


He probably thinks he is doing by asking everyone else.

You guys need a life. I think it's perfectly acceptable to use the
net as one of the components of a search. Usenet is, after all,
a vast, quasi-intelligent heuristic search engine. ;-)

Although, I do find it preferable if the poster gives _some_
indication that he/she has done _something_ on their own. And
non-English-speakers probalby don't know how to phrase a question
in the proper kiss-up tone: "Oh, I'd be eternally grateful if
you could be so kind to point my unworthy ass at a potential
reference" or something like that.

Cheers!
Rich

Cheers!
Rich
 
On 15 Oct 2004 17:04:08 -0700, soar2morrow@yahoo.com (Tom Seim) wrote:

John Edwards' Plane Aborts Takeoff from Cleveland

1 hour, 42 minutes ago U.S. National - Reuters



CHICAGO (Reuters) - The plane carrying Democratic vice presidential
nominee Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) aborted takeoff from
Cleveland's airport on Friday when the pilot spotted a potential
problem with a generator, Edwards' press secretary said.

Edwards was quoted afterward: "I refuse to fly on a plane older than I
am!"
I'm working on some stuff to test radars on B-52s. The plan is to keep
them in service until 2044, at which point many of the planes will be
80 years old.

John
 
Robert Monsen wrote:
Ah, Cincinatus, the great dictator who saved Rome in 16 days, then
returned to his plow. Hardly. His stupid, arrogant, vanity war in Iraq
has cost far more lives than it could have possibly saved, while
weakening us both internally, in the form of our economy, and
externally, in the form of fear of our military.
Just out of personal curiosity, excluding Bush, US policy, UN policy, etc. for
the moment, what do you think of Saddam and his established genocidal behavior?

a) Not my problem
b) Not anyone's problem except Iraqi's
c) Someone else's problem
d) Out of sight, out of mind
e) Arab's problem
f) Israel's problem
g) Other (describe: _____)
 
Rich Grise wrote:

[snip]

"Oh, I'd be eternally grateful if
you could be so kind to point my unworthy ass at a potential
reference" or something like that.
Very amusing.

1. It wouldn't make any difference. He'd still be ignored.
2. Anyone clever enough to know the answer is also clever enough to spot a
homework question.
3. Most of us can't be assed anyway.

Gibbo
 
Rich Grise wrote;

[snip]

I hope somebody stops him before we have WWIII on our hands.
I have to disagree with that.

But only because Coronation Street has been somewhat boring recently.

I remember the Falklands war. Best TV we'd had for years.

Gibbo
<ducking yet again>
 
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:10:36 -0700, Chris Carlen
<crcarle@BOGUS.sandia.gov> wrote:

Joel Kolstad wrote:
I'm all for using Linux, but I think a lot of these reports are overblown.
Somehow people seemed shocked that 'Windows has failure modes' and 'Windows
has known bugs.' Well, duh! So do all UNIXes out there. If anything, I
think you can make a strong argument that Windows could be MORE secure
simply because it's been SO WELL TESTED by ever script kiddie
would-be-hacker out there. Microsoft is really in a losing position here:
If they simply fix security holes and don't mention them and someone finds
out as much later, they're accused of being secretive. If they admit to
their security holes and immediately patch them, they're accused of having a
buggy OS. Also keep in mind that while Windows is certainly a 'proprietary'
product, it is NOT closed source: Many large companies have source license
agreements with Microsoft (it isn't cheap, something like $50k, but that's
nothing to a military contractor), so while it's fair point that something
like Linux might get bugs fixed more quickly, they're just as 'discoverable'
to such companies as with Linux. (And in actuality, if you're a military
contractor, you're probably going to decide that a complete project will
use, e.g., RedHat Linux version x.y.z and NOT change throughout the course
of the project, even if bugs are discovered in that version.)

Windows IS closed source. You can get a license to *look* at the code
only. You may not recompile it or fix bugs yourself. That is the
important difference. It's also a very dangerous legal trojan horse.

It is ludicrous to run military weapon systems, especially with nuclear
capability on a commercial OS where you must depend on the vendor to fix
bugs.

I think weapon systems should be run on proprietary, internally
developed and maintained OSes and applications (or by a cleared
contractor). Starting from an open source OS like Linux or any other
(even Windows if it were truly open source) would be fine, but the code
should be gone over with a fine-toothed comb, modified to suit the
application and unnecessary parts stripped out, brutally tested, and the
modifications kept secret.

That's a nice thing about open source, that if you don't redistribute,
you don't have to tell anyone what changes you are making.

Good day!

Microcrap's monthly bug notices just came out today. 22 new security
flaws in Windows, seven of them "critical". That's *one month*.

John
 

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