Driver to drive?

[Genome]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message news:iqd9sgPGcbZBFwAD@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
| I read in sci.electronics.design that Genome <genome@nothere.net> wrote
| (in <sqi9d.150$0%.146@newsfe6-win.ntli.net&gt about 'Looking Thru John
| Kerry's Rose Colored Glasses', on Thu, 7 Oct 2004:
| >FUCK OFF
| >FUCK OFF
| >FUCK OFF
| >FUCK OFF
| >FUCK OFF
|
| Yes, but what do you REALLY think? (;-)
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| Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
| The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
| The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
| http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

I kind of thought that perhaps my news....server could post HTML so I could say FUCK OFF in really big letters.

It worked, for me anyway.

TOM SEIM IS A WANK
HADDAWAY AND SHITE
YOU USELESS FUCK

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:54:05 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:

On Thursday 30 September 2004 04:39 pm, Paul Burridge did deign to grace us
with the following:

AIUI, Fawlty Towers is popular (or was) in Germany, but they never
released the episode entitled 'The Germans' which is a shame, as it's
actually self-deprecatory towards the Brits and makes us look
seriously *stoopid*. Even John Cleese thought witholding it was daft.
--
Withholding _anything_ with John Cleese in it is daft.

Cheers!
Rich

He's a professor at Cornell, and my brat is a freshperson there. We
have tickets for a lecture/performance by him later this month, during
freshmen parents week; free, or at least included in the cost of
tuition. Should be fun.

John

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <ck4igc017dp@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Ken Smith wrote...

I think it is that I have to hold the current below lets say 3A
while the device trips and then the voltage can rise to 600V.

The PTC fuses would be nearly useless and the "600V" rating
meaningless if that were true. I am trying to order some of
these beasts to satisfy my curiosity with some bench tests
to find out for sure.

I know that some low voltage ones didn't like being place directly across
the leads from a car battery. They blew open for good.

Another interesting effect in most of the Raychem ones is that if you hold
them with a diameter of the disk pointing north and trigger them, they
become fairly magnetic. Bourns ones don't seem to do this.


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[Boris Mohar]

Snip

I'm not sure how general a concept it really is. Its a cool thing to
think about, though. Some people are so totally caught up by it that
they base entire theories of behavior around it.

meme is a meme

--

Boris Mohar

 

[Don Taylor]

John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> writes:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Don Taylor <dont@agora.rdrop.com
wrote (in <H5CdnUh-nYFT5fjcRVn-pg@scnresearch.com&gt about 'safe
electronic brain stimulator', on Thu, 7 Oct 2004:
There are published results in the journals out now that show much lower
levels of magnetic fields, thousands of times lower or even smaller,
have observable effects on the brain.

Please give specific citations. If true, this is very important. But I
suspect it is fantasy.

Certainly, I'm always up for citations to support a result.

Low-Field Magnetic Stimulation in Bipolar Depression Using an MIR-Based
Stimulator. American Journal of Psychiatry, V16,#1,Jan 2004 pp93-98

They saw a significant difference between treatment and placebo, using
<6 Gauss fields, when rTMS uses up to 20000 Gauss fields.


Antinociceptic effects of a pulsed magnetic field in the land snail,
Cepaea nemoralis, Neuroscience Letters, V222, 1997 pp107-110.

They saw a significant difference between treatment and placebo, in
response to pain using a 100 microtesla magnetic field.


Differential entrainment of electroencephalographic activity by weak
complex electromagnetic fields. Perceptual & Motor Skills, V84(2),
Apr 1997, pp527-536.

This is work done by Michael Persinger. He and some of his grad
students have been publishing a string of papers describing the
effects of low level varying magnetic fields. Some of the papers
are looking at odd things but others seem very conventional.
I asked another prof in the neuroscience field if this was all
just made up. He responded that it didn't appear so, some other
folks have replicated some of these results but nobody knows quite
what to make of some of this yet.

I have a pile of photocopies of his papers, and others, but I can't
find them at the moment. The psyc index can get you pages of
references if you search for keyword 'magnetic' and author 'Persinger'

 

Plug it in backwards and do it again.
On 7 Oct 2004 19:08:12 -0700, kaisers_sun@yahoo.com (Brian Raab)
wrote:

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

 

[Robert Morein]

"Brian Raab" <kaisers_sun@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8d001dc6.0410071808.6e3f9c4f@posting.google.com...

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

Don't worry, be happy

 

[Robert Morein]

"Glen Walpert" <gwalpert@notaxs.com> wrote in message
news:hjaam0dehtfp1avu8ush5ogdtpojjgtcg6@4ax.com...

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:18:03 -0400, "Robert Morein"
nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Glen Walpert" <gwalpert@notaxs.com> wrote in message
newsrn7m0tf82a2rjcj13sscuh7occ8f5m1k5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:49:11 -0400, "Robert Morein"
nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:mFfMHMBKz3YBFwq3@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
clip
On the other hand,
explosive rupture of a battery pack close to the abdomen could,
concievably, be lethal.

Yes, but the probability is probably lower than that of being
fatally
kicked by a horse.
--
The two probabilities are not in the same universe of discourse
because I
don't ride horses. OTOH, I am in close proximity with lithium packs.

I am pretty sure John assumed you don't ride horses when he assigned
the lower probability to the exploding battery pack. All computer
lithium battery packs include a thermal fuse in direct contact with
one or more cells, so a cell explosion requires multiple simultaneous
failures including at least a low impedance short across the battery
and thermal fuse failure.

The above is not true. Thermal runaway is possible within a single cell.
See:

http://www.ewh.ieee.org/cmte/PES-SBC/Downloads/sWM04_LithiumBatTech-Valence
..pdf

OK, this article claims that it is a myth that protective devices will
prevent all battery explosions, and they are probably right. But they
only provide 2 examples of battery "explosions" including a single
laptop computer, and these incidents resulted only in minor burns.
Presumably the designed in cell overpressure venting features worked,
and these "explosions" consisted primarily of the venting of hot
gasses, which are not nearly as dangerous (or likely) as being kicked
by a horse. Even if the vent failed, the case of a lithium battery is
too thin to allow enough pressure to develop to cause penetration of
the laptop case when the cell ruptures. "Possible" is quite different
than "probable", and the "explosion" of a lithium cell is quite
different than the explosion of a roadside bomb in Iraq! But if you
are really concerned about the slight possibility of second degree
burns, how about a nomex lap pad?

All good points. The purpose of the post was to determine if events had

occurred similar to http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face9939.html involving lithium
sulfur primary batteries.
These batteries do pose an explosion hazard. Imagine if the batteries in the
above case had been in a device cradled in a person's lap!
Perhaps the venting characteristics of LiIon batteries are different from
lithium sulfur primary batteries.

 

[John S. Dyson]

In article <npc9d.5768$pw4.363@trnddc01>,
Rich Grise <null@example.net> writes:

On Thursday 07 October 2004 06:05 am, John S. Dyson did deign to grace us
with the following:
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:
(John S. Dyson) wrote:
[everybody's nuts]
Why stop there?

Letter from Dr. Wurm, of the Wuerttemberg Evangelical Provincial
Church, to Reich Minister of interior Dr. Frick, September 5, 1940

Dear Reich Minister,

On July 19th I sent you a letter about the systematic extermination of
lunatics, feeble-minded and epileptic persons.

I am CERTAINLY not suggesting that the feeble minded pro-Democrat hate
mongers be 'exterminated!!!' However, it is true that their own
vehement attitudes could extend to exterminating those who don't think
just like them. The ongoing attacks against GOP establishments seems
to be the start of such a movement. There have already been some
organized movements against GOP representative (multiple attacks on the
same day, apparently coordinated at higher levels in the Dem party.)

My own interest is in HELPING those who are so very consumed by hatred,
and NOT trying to totally redirect or modify their general position. The
'hatred' is an overly strong manifestation of partisanship, and seems
to result from very immature personalities.

So, you're gonna save their soul if you have to burn them at the stake
to do it, huh?

This isn't really an issue of 'saving souls' (I don't get into that

mumbo-jumbo), but an issue of incredibly disturbed people who are
effectively participants in a hate movement against the current President
of the USA. This isn't really an issue where most of the nutcases
who seem to be overcome by the genned up hatred will actually do damage
to the President, but more that this political season has seemed to have
tested the sanity of some people. In some cases, where the hate is far
far out of control, the sanity test has failed. At least several
hate filled participants in this thread are showing signs of a significant
emotional illness.

More likely, the hate-Bush movement participants are most likely to try
to impose a very narrow code of behavior that would be akin to narrow
minded religious movements. There are already apparently orchestrated
attacks (wider than a locality) against GOP facilities, and this shows
a potentially criminal enterprise being perpetrated by significant people in
the Democrat party. This misbehavior seems to be carried out by some
emotionally disabled misfits, but the criminal parts of the Democrat
organization appears to coordinate and encourage the criminal activities.

Opposition and for/against any given party is an OKAY thing. Hatred
is problematic.

Ever looked in a mirror?

I certainly feel no hatred, but am certainly worried about the genned

up hatred and the Democrat party obviously taking advantage of their
obviously emotionally disabled (or possibly, incompetent) constituency.
It would be SO VERY WRONG and uncharacteristic of me to hate the
emotionally/psychiatrically or mentally disabled people participating in
the hate movement. It is more likely that I am a little worried about the
significant numbers of emotionally maladjusted or emotionally disabled
people in the Democrat hate-constituency. (I am NOT claiming that all
Kerry supporters are Bush haters, but Kerry has certainly been able to
benefit from hatred, and seems to be doing little to help to mitigate the
emotional damage done to his supporters.) The overly strong, genned
up hatred, isn't really very healthy for anyone involved, including
to those who manifest the damaging emotion and is personally
risky to the object of hatred.

A few examples of apparent emotional disability or incredibly disappointing
immaturity seem to be manifest by some of the hate-Bush advocates in this
group.

This goes to prove that someone who might be published and competent in a
technical field might be an emotional child (or worse, dangerous participants
in a directed hate movement.)

John

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <8d001dc6.0410071808.6e3f9c4f@posting.google.com>,
Brian Raab <kaisers_sun@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

(1)
Vote ______ in the up coming election.
Fill in which ever party makes it sound funny to you.

(2)
Go into sales and marketing.

(3)
Buy a big SUV and drive 35 on the freeway.

(4)
Write regulations.

(5)
Design software.

(6)
Decide which part to obsolete.

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[Rich.Andrews]

"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in news:ck2sn0$ret$1
@netnews.hinet.net:

Why @@?

pin.8 CTS
pin.4 DTR

?

I think he meant pins 4 and 8 on the chip. I took it to mean he found the
CD line.

r

"Rich.Andrews" <spmaway@ylhoo.com> źśźgŠóślĽóˇsť
D:Xns957AF27B09BC4mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in news:ck2c6m$4sp$1
@netnews.hinet.net:

short pin.8 pin.4 work...




yup. that will do it every time.

r



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Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

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Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Brian Raab wrote:

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

Subscribe to one of the MS Windows news groups.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
Think honk if you're a telepath.

 

[Tim Wescott]

Brian Raab wrote:

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

Start more OT threads on political issues. Doesn't really matter
whether you're on the right or the left, as soon as you start preaching
your brain turns off anyway.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

 

[Ross Herbert]

Similar failures in Australia.

See Silicon Chip publisher's letter
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_102164/article.html

 

[Don Pearce]

On 7 Oct 2004 19:08:12 -0700, kaisers_sun@yahoo.com (Brian Raab)
wrote:

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?

Quick, run for president before it wears off!

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

 

[Ban]

Fred Bartoli wrote:

That sounds like a problem to me. What do you mean 'on the output'?
If you have '1 uF plus a low resistance' connected to ground, the
op-amp will very likely oscillate.

I just designed some low noise supplies where the opamp output is
loaded by 1R-5uF or 1R-10uF LPFs.

While it's quite simple, I had hard time to make my clients
understand why it's perfectly stable and also to make them understand
we had to lower the resistance down to 0.1R before stability became
an issue. And also that, at
0.2R, lowering the cap reduced magins while rising its value rendered
the circuit more stable. They were finally completly puzzled when I
showed them that at 0.1R-5uF (barely 15° phase margin) a neat
solution to the pb was to use the decompensated version of the opamp.

I think there is a misunderstanding here. The OP doesn't seem to know about
Zobel networks on the O/P, but has just put this cap to gnd.

I also have a 1Mfd cap on the output

And I do not know how JW brought in that low resistance together with it, it
certainly was not mentioned by the OP. Almost any opamp will oscillate with
1u on the output. If the output voltage needs to be filtered, there can be
put a resistor(33R minimum) between the opamp O/P and the cap and the 1st
order lowpass filter function can be calculated fg= 1/(2pi*RC).

A Zobel on the output will not influence or filter the signal, because you
still directly connect to the output, but reduce the gain-bandwidth of the
opamp for higher frequencies and thus increase the phase margin. A similar
effect will have a series R-C between the +in and -in of the amp. Still
another possibility is to place a small capacitor across the feedback
resistor. Maybe the OP can try some of these measures, with the most
important putting a resistor(33 - 100R) between output pin and the following
circuitry.
Kevin used to sig.:
Oscillators don't, Amplifiers do.
He is right in your case.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy

 

[Ban]

Mark wrote:

Its a LF353N, I have on the negative input a 10K resistor 10Mfd
capacitor chain, going down to ground with a 470K resistor going from
the output back to this input. My signal input goes in via a 1 Mfd
cap then held to half way between the supply lines by two 100K
resistors before going to the positive input, I also have a 1Mfd cap
on the output. As said before the OP-Amp is powered from the 5V logic
supply via a 1N4148 diode and 10Mfd capacitor.

Look up the datasheet, this opamp requires a *minimum* supply voltage of
12V. Use a LM324 instead, or some newer Rail to rail amplifiers.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy

 

[Paul Burke]

Robert Morein wrote:

"Brian Raab" <kaisers_sun@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8d001dc6.0410071808.6e3f9c4f@posting.google.com...

Tested it on myself, unfortunately something went wrong and it reduced
my IQ from 150 to 15.

What can I do now?


Don't worry, be happy

Perceive the happy moron: he doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron. Good God! Perhaps I am!

Paul Burke

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Don Taylor <dont@agora.rdrop.com>
wrote (in <E8OdnRoiw-wrZvjcRVn-jg@scnresearch.com&gt about 'safe
electronic brain stimulator', on Thu, 7 Oct 2004:

I have a pile of photocopies of his papers, and others, but I can't find
them at the moment. The psyc index can get you pages of references if
you search for keyword 'magnetic' and author 'Persinger'

Thank you.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote (in <7c584d27.0410071644.545e6bcf@posting.google.com&gt about 'What
are "memes"? nt', on Thu, 7 Oct 2004:

I was doing a Ph.D. in chemistry at the time,
which would seem to be the wrong basis for a well-apying career in
comedy.

Yes, you should have become the Australian Borodin.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk