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sean
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Denis Gleeson wrote:
I've sent fax with my mobile, using infrared.... cant recive tho
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colin
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"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@access4less.net> wrote in message
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Colin =^.^=
news:41638894.50804@access4less.net...
Shoot all known idiots? it does sound like a very silly thing todo.
Colin =^.^=
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Jonathan Kirwan
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:15:38 +0100, John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk>
wrote:
and don't vote for those you don't want. Winner is the one with the most
affirming votes. See? Easy.
Works pretty well even in imperfect voting systems, like punch cards with
difficult to find tiny holes on small rows. If you accidentally punch out a
hole for some choice you DON'T want and you don't really know how to "fix it"
then just take a further moment to punch out the one you *DO* want and don't
even bother fixing the other hole you wished you didn't punch. At least you got
in the vote you wanted, even if you also threw a vote to the choice you didn't
want. It's half-good, at least, even when you've messed things up and have no
idea how to properly repair it. But at least your affirming vote gets counted,
rather than the whole thing thrown out. And if you know how to repair it,
you're even better off.
The system works much better at measuring choice when used correctly and it
still works better when used incorrectly, as well. Trivial to explain, trivial
to use, and you vote sincerely because you don't need to 'strategize' about how
others might be voting.
Do you recall web pages set up in the US to trade votes in solid one-way states
with votes in states that were marginal? Have you heard lately about "moving to
marginal states" in order to influence the outcome? Have you heard about people
wondering if they should vote for Nader, even when he is their true preference,
because their state is one of the marginal ones and "throwing their vote to
Nader" might get Bush elected?
All that becomes unnecessary to even worry about when you get to vote for all
those you approve of and withhold your vote for those you don't. US citizens
could vote for both Nader *and* Kerry, for example, and withhold their vote for
Bush. Or others might vote for Bush and for some other alternate candidates
they approved of, without worrying about impacting their support for Bush.
In other words, folks could vote honestly. Good thing, in my mind.
Jon
wrote:
Oh, well my thoughts *can* be described. Just vote for all you want to vote for
and don't vote for those you don't want. Winner is the one with the most
affirming votes. See? Easy.
Works pretty well even in imperfect voting systems, like punch cards with
difficult to find tiny holes on small rows. If you accidentally punch out a
hole for some choice you DON'T want and you don't really know how to "fix it"
then just take a further moment to punch out the one you *DO* want and don't
even bother fixing the other hole you wished you didn't punch. At least you got
in the vote you wanted, even if you also threw a vote to the choice you didn't
want. It's half-good, at least, even when you've messed things up and have no
idea how to properly repair it. But at least your affirming vote gets counted,
rather than the whole thing thrown out. And if you know how to repair it,
you're even better off.
The system works much better at measuring choice when used correctly and it
still works better when used incorrectly, as well. Trivial to explain, trivial
to use, and you vote sincerely because you don't need to 'strategize' about how
others might be voting.
Do you recall web pages set up in the US to trade votes in solid one-way states
with votes in states that were marginal? Have you heard lately about "moving to
marginal states" in order to influence the outcome? Have you heard about people
wondering if they should vote for Nader, even when he is their true preference,
because their state is one of the marginal ones and "throwing their vote to
Nader" might get Bush elected?
All that becomes unnecessary to even worry about when you get to vote for all
those you approve of and withhold your vote for those you don't. US citizens
could vote for both Nader *and* Kerry, for example, and withhold their vote for
Bush. Or others might vote for Bush and for some other alternate candidates
they approved of, without worrying about impacting their support for Bush.
In other words, folks could vote honestly. Good thing, in my mind.
Jon
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colin
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"Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl)" <wouter@voti.nl> wrote in message
news:4163cc8f.96108046@news.xs4all.nl...
positve logic = positive edge
negative logic = negative edge ie with blobs or wedges
dont care logic = could be any edge .. who knows ??
master-slave jk fip flops latch the jk state on one edge then transfer it to
the output on the next edge, maybe that cuases more confusion?
Colin =^.^=
news:4163cc8f.96108046@news.xs4all.nl...
heres my 2 pence worth
positve logic = positive edge
negative logic = negative edge ie with blobs or wedges
dont care logic = could be any edge .. who knows ??
master-slave jk fip flops latch the jk state on one edge then transfer it to
the output on the next edge, maybe that cuases more confusion?
Colin =^.^=
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Paul Burke
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Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl) wrote:
wedgies out on circuit diagrams, and don't necessarily add circles to
active-low inputs or mark the name with a negation. the 74x73 triggers
on falling edge, the x74 on the rising edge, but without going through
the books I can't remember whether that's true for all other Ds, JKs
etc. I suppose it's up to the chip designer and what they think people want.
Paul Burke
Not everyone uses "intentional" logic symbols- a lot of people leave the
wedgies out on circuit diagrams, and don't necessarily add circles to
active-low inputs or mark the name with a negation. the 74x73 triggers
on falling edge, the x74 on the rising edge, but without going through
the books I can't remember whether that's true for all other Ds, JKs
etc. I suppose it's up to the chip designer and what they think people want.
Sadly, there's no alternative to reading the data sheet for each type.
Paul Burke
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Winfield Hill
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Ken Smith wrote...
long haul. Siliconix sent us to their J201 series for TO-92 and
SST201 series for sot-23 versions of the die, which they still make.
expired a few years back, didn't they? Schurter, Bourns, Littlefuse,
Cooper Bussman, etc. And the pacific-rim companies listed on the
Global Sources website, like Fuzetec, Jenn Feng, Electric, Shenzhen
Sunzone, Dongguan Richwell, Photosphere (Photo-Top), Sinyork, TOA,
Jya-Nay, and Supertech.
Do none of these make 600V fuses? What about Fuzetec Technology's
FRH160-600, plus a trip relay, to keep the exposure time short?
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
That was in a TO-18 package, far too expensive to compete in the
long haul. Siliconix sent us to their J201 series for TO-92 and
SST201 series for sot-23 versions of the die, which they still make.
Surely there are other suitable PTC manufacturers? Raychem's patents
expired a few years back, didn't they? Schurter, Bourns, Littlefuse,
Cooper Bussman, etc. And the pacific-rim companies listed on the
Global Sources website, like Fuzetec, Jenn Feng, Electric, Shenzhen
Sunzone, Dongguan Richwell, Photosphere (Photo-Top), Sinyork, TOA,
Jya-Nay, and Supertech.
Do none of these make 600V fuses? What about Fuzetec Technology's
FRH160-600, plus a trip relay, to keep the exposure time short?
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
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nospam
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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
slope auto calibrating auto zeroing converter. Memory is pretty hazy but I
think the main problem with DA on the integrating capacitor was an error
which depended on the height of the ramps in previous conversions.
The single slope auto calibrating converter discussed in this thread can
avoid this type of error by ensuring the ramps run on a constant time base
and stop at the same height. DA errors are then repeatable and probably
look like a slight offset and slight ramp non-linearity.
Years and years ago I wrote the software which controlled a precision dual
slope auto calibrating auto zeroing converter. Memory is pretty hazy but I
think the main problem with DA on the integrating capacitor was an error
which depended on the height of the ramps in previous conversions.
The single slope auto calibrating converter discussed in this thread can
avoid this type of error by ensuring the ramps run on a constant time base
and stop at the same height. DA errors are then repeatable and probably
look like a slight offset and slight ramp non-linearity.
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Winfield Hill
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nospam wrote...
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
Hmm, sounds like dielectric absorption.
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
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Glen Walpert
Guest
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:49:11 -0400, "Robert Morein"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
the lower probability to the exploding battery pack. All computer
lithium battery packs include a thermal fuse in direct contact with
one or more cells, so a cell explosion requires multiple simultaneous
failures including at least a low impedance short across the battery
and thermal fuse failure. I have never heard of even a single
occurrence of laptop battery pack explosion, and there are a lot of
them out there. On the other hand, I know several people who have
been kicked by horses
.
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
I am pretty sure John assumed you don't ride horses when he assigned
the lower probability to the exploding battery pack. All computer
lithium battery packs include a thermal fuse in direct contact with
one or more cells, so a cell explosion requires multiple simultaneous
failures including at least a low impedance short across the battery
and thermal fuse failure. I have never heard of even a single
occurrence of laptop battery pack explosion, and there are a lot of
them out there. On the other hand, I know several people who have
been kicked by horses
.
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Rene Tschaggelar
Guest
Marco wrote:
If you need 1 to 200MHz, you have several possibilities :
take a higher band which is 200MHz wide and mix it down,
such as 1000 to 1200MHz.
Or switch several VCOs,
Or use a DDS.
What is the application ?
Rene
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& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
VCOs have usually only an octave band, or a bit less.
If you need 1 to 200MHz, you have several possibilities :
take a higher band which is 200MHz wide and mix it down,
such as 1000 to 1200MHz.
Or switch several VCOs,
Or use a DDS.
What is the application ?
Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
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Spehro Pefhany
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On 6 Oct 2004 04:38:37 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
another source, please post it.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
The 600V-rating units are very new. If someone does come up with
another source, please post it.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Spehro Pefhany
Guest
On 6 Oct 2004 05:09:21 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Hence the term DA? Need coffee, Win? ;-)
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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ChrisGibboGibson
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
would you recommend that has low DA ?
As you'll see from another post this all makes perfect sense now with regard to
the height of the ramp makes such a huge difference to readings.
Gibbo
Well I seem to have the CC good enough now (thanks Fred). What type of cap
would you recommend that has low DA ?
As you'll see from another post this all makes perfect sense now with regard to
the height of the ramp makes such a huge difference to readings.
Gibbo
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colin
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"Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl)" <wouter@voti.nl> wrote in message
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one in detail. All the new symbols actualy leave out the inner workings
these days i had to just look at an old 1980 TTL data book to see an
internal schematic to check.
Colin =^.^=
news:4163d4bb.98200124@news.xs4all.nl...
Yes thats a more corect way of describing it, been a while since i looked at
one in detail. All the new symbols actualy leave out the inner workings
these days i had to just look at an old 1980 TTL data book to see an
internal schematic to check.
Colin =^.^=
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Fred Bloggs
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xray wrote:
a signature of RogerGT....
Hahaa- there's that "your" for "you're" substitution error that was such
a signature of RogerGT....
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David Lesher
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@us.ibm.com> writes:
attacked by sharks far more often; the H field annoys them.
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
While not an issue in the Channel; I seem to recall AC cables are
attacked by sharks far more often; the H field annoys them.
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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Richard
Guest
"ftls1@uaf.edu" wrote:
assignment in his DHCP server; the MAC address will be listed there.
This is likely the same system where he will assign your IP address.
2) Your admin can look at the router's ARP table for the current IP
address.
3) You can ping the device from your PC and then issue the command 'arp
-a' on your PC (this must be done from the same IP subnet / block to get
the right MAC address).
1) Your admin can find this information by looking at the current IP
assignment in his DHCP server; the MAC address will be listed there.
This is likely the same system where he will assign your IP address.
2) Your admin can look at the router's ARP table for the current IP
address.
3) You can ping the device from your PC and then issue the command 'arp
-a' on your PC (this must be done from the same IP subnet / block to get
the right MAC address).
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Rich Grise
Guest
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 02:04 pm, slawc did deign to grace us with the
following:
Cheers!
Rich
following:
John Woodgate wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <null@example.net
wrote (in <pIz8d.4727$Sl2.2910@trnddc09>
flip flop indicate?', on Tue, 5 Oct 2004:
I was assuming that the "R" was "Reset" and the "S" was "Set." But what
could "J" and "K" stand for?
Jog and Kick, of course. What do you think Q and Q-bar stand for? And
the D in D-type and the T in T-type.
Jump, Kill
Delay
Data
Quantity. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
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Mike
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On 4 Oct 2004 13:38:48 -0700, Prasad wrote:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=100ukpt83k5aq79%40corp.supernews.com&output=gplain
This version seems somewhat more likely that the oft-reported but
unsupported claim that they stand for Jack Kilby.
-- Mike --
Here's a post from Max Hauser (search for J-K):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=100ukpt83k5aq79%40corp.supernews.com&output=gplain
This version seems somewhat more likely that the oft-reported but
unsupported claim that they stand for Jack Kilby.
-- Mike --
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Ryan Wheeler
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Roger Hamlett wrote:
ok, to display that on a scope you need to connect the sope ground to
pin 7 of the RS232 plug. but make sure the scope ground and the RS232
ground dont have too much of a diference. ideally shoud be the same
potential.
you connect rx and tx together and it works in your app?
ok, to display that on a scope you need to connect the sope ground to
pin 7 of the RS232 plug. but make sure the scope ground and the RS232
ground dont have too much of a diference. ideally shoud be the same
potential.