Driver to drive?

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:21:57 +0100, "Ban" <bansuri@web.de> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:34:34 +0100, "Ban" <bansuri@web.de> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the
streets.."
-- Travis Bickle (protagonist in _Taxi Driver_)

Robert de Niro takes the law into his own hands and shoots pimps and
a black, must have the sympathy of many here.
ciao Ban


Ban, Maybe it's you that is the racist?

Shoots a black "what?" The "what" just happened to be black.


I was just being sarcastic, wouldn't think of de Niro making this film now,
he was still so young.
ciao Ban
What a stupid remark. Actors ACT, you retarded twit!
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:57 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:50 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:42:56 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:16:21 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:42 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:17:05 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:20:16 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:13:23 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:23 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:10 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:17:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Un-American? Post your DD-214 to show your honorable discharge,
loser.


I work for a mil contractor in a secret lab. Case closed. You lose.
Bullshit!!

You're a mop operative and scared to admit it.

If I worked mopping up the scum from beneath civil society's feet, you
would not be here, scum bag.

What would you know about civil society? You miserable, pathetic
fagboi cocksucker.


I know enough to be assured that it is I that works in a real job,
doing real work for my government.
You're a liar. You do nothing remotely useful.

Of course AlwaysWrong is a liar. He *must* be wrong somehow, even if
it takes a lie.

I also know enough to know that it is you that has gender choice
issues, and that it is you that lacks any knowledge of what civility is,
and it is you that would find my two pound sledge embedded in your skull
if you ever crossed my path irl. I laugh at the stupid piece of shit
jackoff that you are.

Oh dear, yet another empty threat.

What is it with you? Were you bullied at school or something?

Of course. Is it any wonder why?

Here, pussy, pussy, pussy.

Calling your ass, again DimBulb?

Come and find out who would get his dick knocked in the dirt for
attempting to bully.

More of your queer fantasies about me, AlwaysWrong? I told you,
you're *NOT* my type.

You are SO lucky that I am not retired. If I were, you *would* be,
shortly thereafter, permanently. Both of you.

Oh, such threats! What a _little_ fag-boy you are, Dimmie.

Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!

They're coming to take you away...
Those nice men in their clean white suits...
They're coming to take you away...


When I come to *visit* your corpse, I'll be sure to wear a white lab
coat, boy.

My, more threats from the *little* fag-boy, DimBulb.

Is it possible that you are so retarded that you do not even know what
the word "threat" means?

There was no threat, you retarded, 20 IQ dipshit!
 
He is no different than "assessment retards" LIKE YOU! You dumb little
pussy boy.

I have to puzzle over troll feeders and why you waste everyone's
time replying to such obnoxious jerks. Are you lacking a person
with which to pleasantly correspond? Or do you troll feed just
to develop some minutia of an ego trip?
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:07:12 -0800, life imitates life
<pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:57 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:50 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:42:56 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:16:21 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:42 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:17:05 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:20:16 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:13:23 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:23 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:10 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:17:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Un-American? Post your DD-214 to show your honorable discharge,
loser.


I work for a mil contractor in a secret lab. Case closed. You lose.
Bullshit!!

You're a mop operative and scared to admit it.

If I worked mopping up the scum from beneath civil society's feet, you
would not be here, scum bag.

What would you know about civil society? You miserable, pathetic
fagboi cocksucker.


I know enough to be assured that it is I that works in a real job,
doing real work for my government.
You're a liar. You do nothing remotely useful.

Of course AlwaysWrong is a liar. He *must* be wrong somehow, even if
it takes a lie.

I also know enough to know that it is you that has gender choice
issues, and that it is you that lacks any knowledge of what civility is,
and it is you that would find my two pound sledge embedded in your skull
if you ever crossed my path irl. I laugh at the stupid piece of shit
jackoff that you are.

Oh dear, yet another empty threat.

What is it with you? Were you bullied at school or something?

Of course. Is it any wonder why?

Here, pussy, pussy, pussy.

Calling your ass, again DimBulb?

Come and find out who would get his dick knocked in the dirt for
attempting to bully.

More of your queer fantasies about me, AlwaysWrong? I told you,
you're *NOT* my type.

You are SO lucky that I am not retired. If I were, you *would* be,
shortly thereafter, permanently. Both of you.

Oh, such threats! What a _little_ fag-boy you are, Dimmie.

Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!

They're coming to take you away...
Those nice men in their clean white suits...
They're coming to take you away...


When I come to *visit* your corpse, I'll be sure to wear a white lab
coat, boy.

My, more threats from the *little* fag-boy, DimBulb.


Is it possible that you are so retarded that you do not even know what
the word "threat" means?
AlwaysWrong is *always* wrong.

There was no threat, you retarded, 20 IQ dipshit!
You're a liar, as well as being AlwaysWrong.
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:04:09 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:07:12 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:57 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:50 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:42:56 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:16:21 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:42 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:17:05 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:20:16 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:13:23 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:23 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:10 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:17:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Un-American? Post your DD-214 to show your honorable discharge,
loser.


I work for a mil contractor in a secret lab. Case closed. You lose.
Bullshit!!

You're a mop operative and scared to admit it.

If I worked mopping up the scum from beneath civil society's feet, you
would not be here, scum bag.

What would you know about civil society? You miserable, pathetic
fagboi cocksucker.


I know enough to be assured that it is I that works in a real job,
doing real work for my government.
You're a liar. You do nothing remotely useful.

Of course AlwaysWrong is a liar. He *must* be wrong somehow, even if
it takes a lie.

I also know enough to know that it is you that has gender choice
issues, and that it is you that lacks any knowledge of what civility is,
and it is you that would find my two pound sledge embedded in your skull
if you ever crossed my path irl. I laugh at the stupid piece of shit
jackoff that you are.

Oh dear, yet another empty threat.

What is it with you? Were you bullied at school or something?

Of course. Is it any wonder why?

Here, pussy, pussy, pussy.

Calling your ass, again DimBulb?

Come and find out who would get his dick knocked in the dirt for
attempting to bully.

More of your queer fantasies about me, AlwaysWrong? I told you,
you're *NOT* my type.

You are SO lucky that I am not retired. If I were, you *would* be,
shortly thereafter, permanently. Both of you.

Oh, such threats! What a _little_ fag-boy you are, Dimmie.

Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!

They're coming to take you away...
Those nice men in their clean white suits...
They're coming to take you away...


When I come to *visit* your corpse, I'll be sure to wear a white lab
coat, boy.

My, more threats from the *little* fag-boy, DimBulb.


Is it possible that you are so retarded that you do not even know what
the word "threat" means?

AlwaysWrong is *always* wrong.

There was no threat, you retarded, 20 IQ dipshit!

You're a liar, as well as being AlwaysWrong.

If I come to visit your corpse, you are already dead, so how can me
stating that I would piss on your planet polluting, already dead hulk be
a threat, you stupid fucktard?

No need to answer. You lose. Plain and simple. Now FOAD!
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:26:50 -0800, life imitates life
<pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:04:09 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:07:12 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:57 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:50 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:42:56 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:16:21 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:42 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:17:05 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:20:16 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:13:23 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:23 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:10 -0800, life imitates life
pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:17:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Un-American? Post your DD-214 to show your honorable discharge,
loser.


I work for a mil contractor in a secret lab. Case closed. You lose.
Bullshit!!

You're a mop operative and scared to admit it.

If I worked mopping up the scum from beneath civil society's feet, you
would not be here, scum bag.

What would you know about civil society? You miserable, pathetic
fagboi cocksucker.


I know enough to be assured that it is I that works in a real job,
doing real work for my government.
You're a liar. You do nothing remotely useful.

Of course AlwaysWrong is a liar. He *must* be wrong somehow, even if
it takes a lie.

I also know enough to know that it is you that has gender choice
issues, and that it is you that lacks any knowledge of what civility is,
and it is you that would find my two pound sledge embedded in your skull
if you ever crossed my path irl. I laugh at the stupid piece of shit
jackoff that you are.

Oh dear, yet another empty threat.

What is it with you? Were you bullied at school or something?

Of course. Is it any wonder why?

Here, pussy, pussy, pussy.

Calling your ass, again DimBulb?

Come and find out who would get his dick knocked in the dirt for
attempting to bully.

More of your queer fantasies about me, AlwaysWrong? I told you,
you're *NOT* my type.

You are SO lucky that I am not retired. If I were, you *would* be,
shortly thereafter, permanently. Both of you.

Oh, such threats! What a _little_ fag-boy you are, Dimmie.

Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!

They're coming to take you away...
Those nice men in their clean white suits...
They're coming to take you away...


When I come to *visit* your corpse, I'll be sure to wear a white lab
coat, boy.

My, more threats from the *little* fag-boy, DimBulb.


Is it possible that you are so retarded that you do not even know what
the word "threat" means?

AlwaysWrong is *always* wrong.

There was no threat, you retarded, 20 IQ dipshit!

You're a liar, as well as being AlwaysWrong.


If I come to visit your corpse, you are already dead, so how can me
stating that I would piss on your planet polluting, already dead hulk be
a threat, you stupid fucktard?
Another threat. You're on a roll tonight, DimBulb.

No need to answer. You lose. Plain and simple. Now FOAD!
Wrong again, AlwaysWrong.
 
"Sparky" <see@thesig.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C7ABEBCF0131AB52B08A39AF@news.eternal-september.org...
I found them:

Bomar "EZ" type connectors.

http://mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bomar-
Interconnect/300668EZ/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvQhAhQbXdbBkRGiIf7Wo2Mv4x%252bE40XKq0%3d
Thanks.
They look standard ones....
 
On Feb 24, 10:26 pm, life imitates life
<pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:04:09 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:07:12 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:57 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:50 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:42:56 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:16:21 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:42 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:17:05 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pom...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:20:16 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pom...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:13:23 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:23 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pom...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:10 -0800, life imitates life
pastic...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:17:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

  Un-American?  Post your DD-214 to show your honorable discharge,
loser.

 I work for a mil contractor in a secret lab. Case closed..  You lose.
Bullshit!!

You're a mop operative and scared to admit it.

 If I worked mopping up the scum from beneath civil society's feet, you
would not be here, scum bag.

What would you know about civil society? You miserable, pathetic
fagboi cocksucker.

 I know enough to be assured that it is I that works in a real job,
doing real work for my government.
You're a liar. You do nothing remotely useful.

Of course AlwaysWrong is a liar.  He *must* be wrong somehow, even if
it takes a lie.  

 I also know enough to know that it is you that has gender choice
issues, and that it is you that lacks any knowledge of what civility is,
and it is you that would find my two pound sledge embedded in your skull
if you ever crossed my path irl.  I laugh at the stupid piece of shit
jackoff that you are.

Oh dear, yet another empty threat.

What is it with you? Were you bullied at school or something?

Of course.  Is it any wonder why?

Here, pussy, pussy, pussy.

Calling your ass, again DimBulb?

 Come and find out who would get his dick knocked in the dirt for
attempting to bully.

More of your queer fantasies about me, AlwaysWrong?  I told you,
you're *NOT* my type.  

 You are SO lucky that I am not retired.  If I were, you *would* be,
shortly thereafter, permanently.  Both of you.

Oh, such threats!  What a _little_ fag-boy you are, Dimmie.

 Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!

They're coming to take you away...
Those nice men in their clean white suits...
They're coming to take you away...

When I come to *visit* your corpse, I'll be sure to wear a white lab
coat, boy.

My, more threats from the *little* fag-boy, DimBulb.

 Is it possible that you are so retarded that you do not even know what
the word "threat" means?

AlwaysWrong is *always* wrong.

 There was no threat, you retarded, 20 IQ dipshit!

You're a liar, as well as being AlwaysWrong.

 If I come to visit your corpse, you are already dead, so how can me
stating that I would piss on your planet polluting, already dead hulk be
a threat, you stupid fucktard?

  No need to answer.  You lose.  Plain and simple.  Now FOAD!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
WHAT'S WITH THE NAMNE ? ? ?
STIOP EATING FECES FOOL YOU CAN'T DIGEST IT

I AM PROTEUS
 
On Mar 1, 5:00 pm, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...@charter.net> wrote:
http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/Images/Fast_DCDC.gif

Runs at 435kHz at 2W maximum output.
I'd expect a lot of overshoot on power on.

I'd also expect that the output side 1N914 would fail after
a while.
Tim

--
Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk.
Website:http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
 
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:53:51 -0500, Jon wrote:

The electric service goes to the house, but I want to run the generator
in the barn. So far I know,

* there are 3 unused #10 wires buried between the house and the barn. *
the electric to the barn comes from the house in 2 buried #000 cables.

Some of the parts I have to work with are

* a 3pst relay with a 120vac coil and contacts rated for 90amps * the
above coil also activates 4 N.O. and 4 N.C. contacts rated for 15amps *
two 3pdt relays with a 120vac coil and contacts rated for 30amps at
300vac * a spst mercury relay with a 240vac coil and contacts rated for
60amps

Here are the rules:

When the MAIN switch is ON, all generator wires must be disconnected.
When the MAIN is OFF, it is safe to connect all generator wires.

I take it that many of you were irritated with me over my last post. I
don't know how you got it I lived in Virginia, but whatever. This past
weekend I spent fixing up a computer and building a network in my home.
I guess it's nice I accidentally firewalled out my address, but since I
did I don't have to deal with backstabbers like some of you. See if I
care if you find out where I live, but I'm not volunteering the
information.

If any of you have any smarts you'll solve the puzzle and come up with a
circuit that works and is up to code.
We already did that - a listed Transfer Switch is the *only* code
compliant method, period. Why is it you are so resistant to making this
generator hookup in a legal manner? An Automatic Transfer Switch will do
everything you want, hookup is trivial, parts readily available, and if
the installation is done correctly you will be 100% safe and legal.

You only need a transfer switch with the capacity of your generator, not
the capacity of your main service. Decide what loads need to be on the
generator, put them all on a separate panel, and feed that panel from the
transfer switch (which will get it's mains power from a branch breaker in
your main panel, rated about the same as the generator and within the
rating of a small automatic transfer switch).

You seem willing to go to a lot of trouble to make an illegal hookup; why
not a little bit of trouble for a safe, legal and reliable hookup?
 
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:22:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:24:37 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:20:30 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:33:34 +1000, "`ZACK`" <youwillfinedme@home.com.au
wrote:


"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
news:iqrtp55f5s8sj1fba0rjc20figohkp5g2c@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:54:01 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:21:21 +1000, "`ZACK`"
youwillfinedme@home.com.au> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:26:26 +1000, "`ZACK`"
youwillfinedme@home.com.au> wrote:

with 2 HTs one tube and one from solid state.

has a 400va power transformer, 2x200ma chokes
2x5U4GC tubes.

its only part of my new hifi system
im still yet to build the 2 power amps
in a same look.



Cute. What's it like underneath?

John


havent finished wiring it yet.


I'm a fan of stretched bus wire. Get a piece of shiny tinned bus wire
or enameled magnet wire. Chuck one end in a vise and grab the other
end with vise grips and pull until it yields a little. It becomes
absolutely, beautifully straight. Cut it into chunks and wire away.

It wrecks the conductivity of course, but beauty must suffer.

John

One does not need to perform the pull trick to achieve the
straightness. Retaining the lattice integrity is pretty important.
Won't see me doing it.

ok ilike earth buses and point to point.



Yes, but compromising an electrical property in the name of appearances
ain't real bright. Like I mentioned, there are several ways to get a
straight run, as if that even matters.

Well, name a few.

The conductivity isn't harmed much by pulling the wire. It does look
great.

John


Harm is harm, Mr. Quantify as desired, but never when it goes against
something you stated. What an ass.
It's only harm if the resistance goes up enough to cause problems.

Worried about conduction? Use silver bus. Still, there are much less
destructive ways of getting it true and straight without putting stress
on the wire or work hardening it.
Please tell us a couple.

I just measured the resistance of 22" of #18 bus wire, sorta ragged
looking as pulled off the spool. Then I stretched it hard enough to
make it beautiful and straight.

You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John
 
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:22:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:24:37 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:20:30 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:33:34 +1000, "`ZACK`" <youwillfinedme@home.com.au
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:54:01 -0700, John Larkin
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:21:21 +1000, "`ZACK`"
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:26:26 +1000, "`ZACK`"
youwillfinedme@home.com.au> wrote:

with 2 HTs one tube and one from solid state.

has a 400va power transformer, 2x200ma chokes
2x5U4GC tubes.

its only part of my new hifi system
im still yet to build the 2 power amps
in a same look.



Cute. What's it like underneath?

John


havent finished wiring it yet.


I'm a fan of stretched bus wire. Get a piece of shiny tinned bus wire
or enameled magnet wire. Chuck one end in a vise and grab the other
end with vise grips and pull until it yields a little. It becomes
absolutely, beautifully straight. Cut it into chunks and wire away.

It wrecks the conductivity of course, but beauty must suffer.

John

One does not need to perform the pull trick to achieve the
straightness. Retaining the lattice integrity is pretty important.
Won't see me doing it.

ok ilike earth buses and point to point.



Yes, but compromising an electrical property in the name of appearances
ain't real bright. Like I mentioned, there are several ways to get a
straight run, as if that even matters.

Well, name a few.

The conductivity isn't harmed much by pulling the wire. It does look
great.

John


Harm is harm, Mr. Quantify as desired, but never when it goes against
something you stated. What an ass.

It's only harm if the resistance goes up enough to cause problems.


Worried about conduction? Use silver bus. Still, there are much less
destructive ways of getting it true and straight without putting stress
on the wire or work hardening it.

Please tell us a couple.

I just measured the resistance of 22" of #18 bus wire, sorta ragged
looking as pulled off the spool. Then I stretched it hard enough to
make it beautiful and straight.

You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John
Barring any work hardening/crystallization, 5% of stretch gives you
10.25% of resistance increase.

So you can not likely measure any change due to weak-kneed hand
stretching :)

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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John

I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".
 
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:38:48 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John


I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".

Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

John
 
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:36:55 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:38:48 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John


I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".


Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

John

No, John, you fucking idiot. My statement was that YOU do not know
what you are doing.
 
JL > Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

A >   No, John, you [f ing] idiot.  My statement
A > was that YOU do not know what you are doing.

Archie! BACK IN YOUR KENNEL!
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
wrote:

JL > Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

A >   No, John, you [f ing] idiot.  My statement
A > was that YOU do not know what you are doing.

Archie! BACK IN YOUR KENNEL!

Fuck off, Egreegious error boy.
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:11:11 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:36:55 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:38:48 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John


I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".


Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

John


No, John, you fucking idiot. My statement was that YOU do not know
what you are doing.
The prestretch resistivity was very close to the value predicted from
wire tables. The stretch delta was interesting but of course the
stretch force wasn't quantified... I just pulled on the wire until I
felt it yield a little. It looks like the elongation pretty much
accounts for all the delta-R, without work hardening being
significant. Stuff like that is always worth knowing.

Fortunately, I have a home-made precision 1 amp current source and
some oil-filled cal-lab precision resistors, so I can measure
milliohms to PPM stability. I design wideband current shunts now and
then use this stuff for my measurements:

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Manganin.zip


You bluster and to decline to calculate the resistance of a length of
wire. Wise move on your part, as you would inevitably get it wrong.

John
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:38:48 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John


I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".

Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

John

I wonder if anyone ever explained to dimbulb that copper wire is made
by drawing it through dies to reduce the diameter?


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:08:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:38:48 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:16:30 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


You're an expert on this sort of thing, so estimate the resistance
before it was stretched, and how much it changed.

John


I question the efficacy of both sets of measurements.

You, saying that "you measured" something doesn't give one any warm,
fuzzy feelings upon contemplating the declared "observed results".

Why didn't you just say "I don't know how to do that"?

John


I wonder if anyone ever explained to dimbulb that copper wire is made
by drawing it through dies to reduce the diameter?
That work-hardens it, which makes it stiff and increases resistance.
It's usually annealed afterwards for electrical applications. If it's
not annealed, it's called "hard-drawn" copper, and the resistivity is
about 4% more than annealed. The breaking tension of the hard stuff is
about 50% higher than for the annealed.

We anneal our manganin shunts to get the TCs and drift under control,
after all the work-hardening of rolling out the metal and forming the
shapes.

I'm sure Dimmie can add details. He knows all about this stuff.

John
 

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