Driver to drive?

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:33:56 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <io7i65tfk98ogmktl0gu8ssh5tfm0ms6hq@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:01:10 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <hqvh65tqnv1o2ujpqsvqr6uttthbg2o96d@4ax.com>,
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:16:27 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

I posted the Indiana statute that shows that it is a felony if the amount is

over 30g, or if it's a second offense regardless of the amount. Not my fault

if you didn't read it, or can't understand it.



No, it CAN be charged as a felony on subsequent offenses. It rarely
is, if it ever was even once.

The language of the law is very clear. Like I said, it's not my fault if you
can't understand it.

The circumstance of reality, however, is all that matters, and in
reality, it is never done.

The "circumstance of reality" is that you made certain specific claims about
what the law is regarding possession and sale of marijuana in all fifty
states, and I showed every one of those claims to be false.
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You pluralize things worse than a doctor's billing ditz does.

ONE certain specific claim.

So, NAME ONE STATE where you get a felony charge for simple possession.

You did not comply. Nor did what you thought was compliance, fit the
bill. You're just a failure all the way around.

You're just an ignorant buffoon.
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You're just a goddamned retard that would eat those words with a little
road dirt, were we not living in a police state.

Give me the old west laws any day. The gene pool would have been
cleared decades ago. We would not have any gangs, and there would never
have been a mafia. And fucktards like you that mouth off like that,
might have to back it up with a little more than your online bravado.
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:35:04 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>
Give me the old west laws any day. The gene pool would have been
cleared decades ago. We would not have any gangs, and there would never
have been a mafia. And fucktards like you that mouth off like that,
might have to back it up with a little more than your online bravado.
Click to expand...

And you would be eating the horseshit you'd shovel from the streets
each day, lapping up the bar floor puke and drinking from the spitoon.
Wait a minute ... that's true today!
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:39:06 -0700, FatBytestard
<FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>
Instead, *I* will run around... anywhere I please... and call anyone
I want... anything I want.

I usually keep it to those that deserve it most, however.
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Then be sure to call yourself celibate, right Archie. Tell us about
that.
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:42:34 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

<<<<<Snip>>>>>
You're an idiot.
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You're a celibate asshole!
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:55:51 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Okay, you can't afford a complete lid.

Not really anything to be ashamed of.


In the Amateur Radio community, he is a complete 'lid'.
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Yer full of shit.
 
In article <gerk65tnr56vcfl74tkt4sdvskminr46ip@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:33:56 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <io7i65tfk98ogmktl0gu8ssh5tfm0ms6hq@4ax.com>,
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:01:10 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article <hqvh65tqnv1o2ujpqsvqr6uttthbg2o96d@4ax.com>,
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:16:27 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

I posted the Indiana statute that shows that it is a felony if the amount
is

over 30g, or if it's a second offense regardless of the amount. Not my
fault

if you didn't read it, or can't understand it.



No, it CAN be charged as a felony on subsequent offenses. It rarely
is, if it ever was even once.

The language of the law is very clear. Like I said, it's not my fault if you
can't understand it.

The circumstance of reality, however, is all that matters, and in
reality, it is never done.

The "circumstance of reality" is that you made certain specific claims about
what the law is regarding possession and sale of marijuana in all fifty
states, and I showed every one of those claims to be false.

You pluralize things worse than a doctor's billing ditz does.

ONE certain specific claim.
Click to expand...
Liar. You claimed that simple possession isn't a felony anywhere. You claimed
that possession for sale is a felony everywhere. You claimed that I didn't
cite the Indiana law correctly. That's three claims. And every one of them is
false.
So, NAME ONE STATE where you get a felony charge for simple possession.
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I already did, you idiot: Indiana. And I quoted, and cited, the law. Not my
fault if you can't comprehend it, you ignorant, pot-addled fool.
You did not comply. Nor did what you thought was compliance, fit the
bill. You're just a failure all the way around.
Click to expand...
Wrong *again*. It's not my fault that your marijuana use has impaired your
reading comprehension.
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:16 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

So, NAME ONE STATE where you get a felony charge for simple possession.

I already did, you idiot: Indiana.
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No, they do not.

And I quoted, and cited, the law.
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Which does not.

Not my
fault if you can't comprehend it, you ignorant, pot-addled fool.
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No, they do not. In the very citation you quoted it states that it is
not a felony.

Grow up, fuckhead.
 
In article <3sgm65dpv2ocih1genuobkutp6pergnqdv@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:16 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:


So, NAME ONE STATE where you get a felony charge for simple possession.

I already did, you idiot: Indiana.

No, they do not.
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I posted the law showing that it *is*. Not my fault that you're too stupid to
understand it.
And I quoted, and cited, the law.

Which does not.
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Yes, it does. Not my fault that you're too stupid to understand it.
Not my
fault if you can't comprehend it, you ignorant, pot-addled fool.

No, they do not. In the very citation you quoted it states that it is
not a felony.
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This is the last time I'm going to explain it: simple possession in Indiana is
a felony if the amount is over 30g, or if it's a second offense. The text of
the law itself, and the URL at which you can read it for yourself have already
been posted. Not my fault that you're too stupid to understand it.
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:09:10 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

This is the last time I'm going to explain it: simple possession in Indiana is
a felony if the amount is over 30g, or if it's a second offense.
Click to expand...

In either case, it is no longer simple possession, idiot.
 
In article <fe6n655r5tkudhgj61hfvfq5amd87vfl9m@4ax.com>, UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:09:10 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

This is the last time I'm going to explain it: simple possession in Indiana is
a felony if the amount is over 30g, or if it's a second offense.

In either case, it is no longer simple possession, idiot.
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Of course it is, you fool. Read the law! It says "possession". Possession with
intent to sell is an entirely separate offense.

In any event... I'm done. It's pointless to continue trying to explain this to
you, since you are clearly far too stupid to comprehend the explanation.
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:59:59 GMT, "E" <a@b.c> wrote:

try
http://www.bosch.se/content/language1/downloads/Relays_Catalog_2005_2006_eng.pdf
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Good one. Thanks.
--
Boris
 
"Capt. Cave Man" wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:49:19 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


"Capt. Cave Man" wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:54:22 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
vordos@tds.net> wrote:


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:IPmdnUUGKqGVQM3XnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...


Assuming a nominal 240VAC supply, 245V is in no way "not correct" -- it's
only about a 2% overvoltage.

And since there is likely no load in shop when the install was taking
place, the 245 would be a higher than normal reading.

But I question the use of "3phase" and "245 volts" in the OP question.
Around here, 245 volts would be perfectly normal for a single phase
circuit, very high for a "standard" 208/3 phase delta.

208 three phase isn't delta. It's wye.

Harold


Are you sure? Perhaps it is just that way where you live.

Southern California distributes 208 ungrounded delta configuration in
the industrial park I was in at my last job.


Sure they did. Where did you get your 120 volts from?

Our building used one of the phases to feed a step down transformer
that supplied 240 center tapped secondaries to us for standard services.
Any power supply we made that was more than 1kW meant that we could not
use our standard feeds to test it, so we had to get one leg of a three
phase feed fed into our lab, which we found to be not respective to
ground.

So our "120" came from whatever manner the power company used to supply
the entire area. Step down transformers with the center tap of the
secondary grounded at the pole, and at the service entrance and panel. No
big mystery.
Click to expand...

208 DELTA? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55F94A.3039A789@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55E712.1A9D692C@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <3fqa55tmj9u60ol0rmds7vav5nhj88bv7v@4ax.com>,
ChairmanOfTheBored
RUBored@crackasmile.org> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:20:49 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

And you just made a legal error. The NEC is adopted nationally (in
the US),

Sorry, don't believe that. Got a cite?


Got a clue? The NEC was created by large insurance companies, soon
after the electrification of the United States started. There was little
information, and no testing of hardware, or methods. The NFPA set the
first fire safety standards. The NEC soon followed. The NFPA publishes
the NEC.

I understand that. The claim was that "The NEC is adopted nationally in the
US". And I don't believe that.

If your wiring doesn't meet their requirements, the insurance doesn't
pay off.

Please provide just *one* cite showing that has *ever* happened *anywhere* in
the U.S.

Local code can be tighter than the NEC, but not ignore any
aspect of it.

Not true. Any local jurisdiction can adopt any portion of the NEC as law, or
decline to adopt it, as it pleases.

If a town has lower standards, there is no insurance
available.

Bulls**t. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. I lived thirteen
years in a rural area of Indiana that had *no* Code, *no* permits, *no*
inspections, and *no* licensing. And I had *no* problems getting insurance
for
my home.
Click to expand...

You think you're the only person to ever live in a rural area?


That means no one will loan money to buy, build or remodel
existing buildings. Soon, the town is dead, because businesses can't
afford to stay in business without insurance.

In the future, please confine your comments to areas in which you actually
know something. This is not one of them.


Haven't you heard? Rural areas don't count for anything. Ask either
coast.

Complete evasion of the points I raised is noted.

A huge barn on a horse farm near here burnt to the ground and killed
a lot of horses. They got almost nothing from their insurance when the
investigation found substandard wiring.

No location + no date = no proof.
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ocala Florida, about five years ago.


So what if it was never
inspected, no permits. there was a major loss to the owners. When they
wanted to rebuild, there were permits to be pulled, inspections done,
and the structure had to have a sprinkler system, as well.

Just because you did something decades ago doesn't mean that it's
legal, today.

And just because you imagine something, doesn't mean it's true. Fact is, you
don't have any idea what you're talking about. You're just making stuff up, or
repeating something you were told by a friend of a friend. If you can produce
cites proving that:
- the NEC has been adopted nationwide in the U.S.
- local jurisdictions are required to adopt the NEC in its entirety
- any insurance company anywhere ever refused to pay off a fire claim due to
unpermitted or unlicensed electrical work
- any property owner anywhere in the United States has been unable to obtain
homeowner's insurance because the town in which he lives has not fully adopted
the NEC
then I'll retract that statement, admit I was wrong and you were right, and
apologize. Until then, I stand behind my statement that you don't have any
idea what you're talking about.

Ok, you win. You can crawl back up Ed's ass. You aren't worth
talking to.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
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--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
"Rich." wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:54:50 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

I just had oral surgery, and I just don't give a damn right now. I'm
in pain, and drooling blood.

Take some Midol. :)
Click to expand...

Its you that needs Midol for your PMS. Its been over two weeks and
the infection isn't gone.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
jk wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


You could use knob & tube in rural structures a lot longer than in
cities, but that didn't make it a good idea.


And what do you have against K&T wiring?

jk

It is nasty when you are running a metal fish tape through the walls!
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What fish tape? Damn! Who turned out the lights!


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
In article <4A6CA0E8.AEC0DC4D@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55F94A.3039A789@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55E712.1A9D692C@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <3fqa55tmj9u60ol0rmds7vav5nhj88bv7v@4ax.com>,
ChairmanOfTheBored
RUBored@crackasmile.org> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:20:49 -0700,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

And you just made a legal error. The NEC is adopted nationally (in
the US),

Sorry, don't believe that. Got a cite?


Got a clue? The NEC was created by large insurance companies, soon
after the electrification of the United States started. There was
little
information, and no testing of hardware, or methods. The NFPA set the
first fire safety standards. The NEC soon followed. The NFPA
publishes
the NEC.

I understand that. The claim was that "The NEC is adopted nationally in
the
US". And I don't believe that.

If your wiring doesn't meet their requirements, the insurance doesn't
pay off.

Please provide just *one* cite showing that has *ever* happened
*anywhere* in
the U.S.

Local code can be tighter than the NEC, but not ignore any
aspect of it.

Not true. Any local jurisdiction can adopt any portion of the NEC as
law, or
decline to adopt it, as it pleases.

If a town has lower standards, there is no insurance
available.

Bulls**t. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. I lived
thirteen
years in a rural area of Indiana that had *no* Code, *no* permits, *no*
inspections, and *no* licensing. And I had *no* problems getting
insurance
for
my home.


You think you're the only person to ever live in a rural area?
Click to expand...
No, of course not -- but you still don't have any idea what you're talking
about.
That means no one will loan money to buy, build or remodel
existing buildings. Soon, the town is dead, because businesses can't
afford to stay in business without insurance.

In the future, please confine your comments to areas in which you
actually
know something. This is not one of them.


Haven't you heard? Rural areas don't count for anything. Ask either
coast.

Complete evasion of the points I raised is noted.

A huge barn on a horse farm near here burnt to the ground and killed
a lot of horses. They got almost nothing from their insurance when the
investigation found substandard wiring.

No location + no date = no proof.


ocala Florida, about five years ago.
Click to expand...
Vague date = still no proof.
 
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:28:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"Capt. Cave Man" wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:49:19 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


"Capt. Cave Man" wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:54:22 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
vordos@tds.net> wrote:


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:IPmdnUUGKqGVQM3XnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...


Assuming a nominal 240VAC supply, 245V is in no way "not correct" -- it's
only about a 2% overvoltage.

And since there is likely no load in shop when the install was taking
place, the 245 would be a higher than normal reading.

But I question the use of "3phase" and "245 volts" in the OP question.
Around here, 245 volts would be perfectly normal for a single phase
circuit, very high for a "standard" 208/3 phase delta.

208 three phase isn't delta. It's wye.

Harold


Are you sure? Perhaps it is just that way where you live.

Southern California distributes 208 ungrounded delta configuration in
the industrial park I was in at my last job.


Sure they did. Where did you get your 120 volts from?

Our building used one of the phases to feed a step down transformer
that supplied 240 center tapped secondaries to us for standard services.
Any power supply we made that was more than 1kW meant that we could not
use our standard feeds to test it, so we had to get one leg of a three
phase feed fed into our lab, which we found to be not respective to
ground.

So our "120" came from whatever manner the power company used to supply
the entire area. Step down transformers with the center tap of the
secondary grounded at the pole, and at the service entrance and panel. No
big mystery.


208 DELTA? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Click to expand...

Ungrounded Delta configuration, you total fucking retard. Yes, it was
208 volt per phase.
 
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:32:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"Rich." wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:54:50 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

I just had oral surgery, and I just don't give a damn right now. I'm
in pain, and drooling blood.

Take some Midol. :)


Its you that needs Midol for your PMS. Its been over two weeks and
the infection isn't gone.
Click to expand...

Way Out Wacky Races... Picture the dastardly driver, rubbing his hands
together, and his little doggy snickering.

Death is knocking on the door.
 
Doug Miller wrote:
In article <4A6CA0E8.AEC0DC4D@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55F94A.3039A789@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <4A55E712.1A9D692C@earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:

In article <3fqa55tmj9u60ol0rmds7vav5nhj88bv7v@4ax.com>,
ChairmanOfTheBored
RUBored@crackasmile.org> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:20:49 -0700,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

And you just made a legal error. The NEC is adopted nationally (in
the US),

Sorry, don't believe that. Got a cite?


Got a clue? The NEC was created by large insurance companies, soon
after the electrification of the United States started. There was
little
information, and no testing of hardware, or methods. The NFPA set the
first fire safety standards. The NEC soon followed. The NFPA
publishes
the NEC.

I understand that. The claim was that "The NEC is adopted nationally in
the
US". And I don't believe that.

If your wiring doesn't meet their requirements, the insurance doesn't
pay off.

Please provide just *one* cite showing that has *ever* happened
*anywhere* in
the U.S.

Local code can be tighter than the NEC, but not ignore any
aspect of it.

Not true. Any local jurisdiction can adopt any portion of the NEC as
law, or
decline to adopt it, as it pleases.

If a town has lower standards, there is no insurance
available.

Bulls**t. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. I lived
thirteen
years in a rural area of Indiana that had *no* Code, *no* permits, *no*
inspections, and *no* licensing. And I had *no* problems getting
insurance
for
my home.


You think you're the only person to ever live in a rural area?

No, of course not -- but you still don't have any idea what you're talking
about.



That means no one will loan money to buy, build or remodel
existing buildings. Soon, the town is dead, because businesses can't
afford to stay in business without insurance.

In the future, please confine your comments to areas in which you
actually
know something. This is not one of them.


Haven't you heard? Rural areas don't count for anything. Ask either
coast.

Complete evasion of the points I raised is noted.

A huge barn on a horse farm near here burnt to the ground and killed
a lot of horses. They got almost nothing from their insurance when the
investigation found substandard wiring.

No location + no date = no proof.


ocala Florida, about five years ago.

Vague date = still no proof.
Click to expand...

I am not about to spend days at the library looking through the
newspaper archives. The article may be on the Ocala.com website, but
their search feature is useless.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
VioletaPachydermata wrote:
Way Out Wacky Races... Picture the dastardly driver, rubbing his hands
together, and his little doggy snickering.

Death is knocking on the door.
Click to expand...

Then answer it, you ignorant bitch.

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TheGlimmerMan <justaglimmer@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
TheKraken <ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org>
The Last Mimsy <mimsy@TheOtherSideoftheLookingGlass.org>

TheQuickBrownFox <thequickbrownfox@overthelazydog.org>
TutAmongUs@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org
<TutAmongUs@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org>
UpGrade <UpGrade@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
ValleyGirl <LuvYerNailz@LikeIWouldGiveIt.Comeon>
VioletaPachydermata <PurpleElephant@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
WallyWallWhackr <wallywallwhackr@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org>



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