Driver to drive?

[John Fields]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:19:22 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jamie wrote:

Oh btw, I also wrote some 8 Bit FFT code in a uc controller

Really ?

Mine was 32 bit code. Work out how to do that eh ?

Graham

Shit....
Any one that can't do higher precision in Uc's other than
what is supplied natively, does not belong coding in uc's

you're hitting bottom!..

and for you info, that was a 8 bit Uc but the FFT was 16 bit,.
more than enough.

FFTs have nothing to do with it.

---
Whoosh...

He nailed you and you don't even know why.

Delicious!

JF

 

[UltimatePatriot]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote:

That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,

One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:43:23 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Personally, I think any 'reverb' sucks.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant, like in most
things you post. Reveb sucks. Period. It was done to death, along
with Echo effects and other novelty garbage 40+ years ago. Its just
another annoying form of distortion.

The whole audio industry disagrees with you.

The audio industry is run by empty suits these days.

I understand where you're coming from better than you might imagine, but
thankfully no 'suit' knows how to mix.

I loathe the 'suits' too.

Rarely is anything produced that is fit to listen to.

There's a lot of that going on for sure. I prefer LIVE music myself
(including reverb and compression) and I might be mixing it myself..

---
If you're mixing it, then the output isn't live and is subject to all of
the vagaries which make you think that because it sounds good to you it
should sound good to everyone else.

He's too stupid to understand that concept and too childish to admit
it..


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[JosephKK]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:52:01 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

JosephKK wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
JosephKK wrote:

Nor have i disagreed when those points were expressed. They are quite
true. In the long run i think i might use a valve preamplifier to get
the sound and a highly derated very linear post amp.

Several people have done this in the past. The name Phoenix comes to mind which was funded
by (I think by then) ex-members of the band Argent. That's the first I know of.

I suspect Marshall is doing something like this now too but I'm not up to date on their
stuff, it's not actual 'pro' audio, it's what we call MI (musical instrument) technology.

And for the masses we now have what's called prosumer. Near real pro kit performance at a
bargain >price and usually in small sizes but more of a 'consumable' than real pro kit.
Somecan be quite good >actually. I've designed a fair few of that ilk myself.


My first piece of semi-pro gear is an Ampex AX-300 open reel tape
deck, i still have it. Hey, i can afford to put new heads on it now.
Probably only $2400 now, if i can find them. Damn, i will need a
calibration tape too, if i can find it.

You'll have trouble finding anyone stocking 1/4" tape now too !

I actually have an 8 track 1" tape machine kicking around here !

Graham

Especially blank good stuff like Scotch (tm) Blackwatch (tm) 207.
Calibration tapes will be really challenging, even used. Goggled for
a while, couldn't find either. I could get Maxell UD 35-90 blank tape
though, which is pretty good.

 

[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Personally, I think any 'reverb' sucks.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant, like in most
things you post. Reveb sucks. Period. It was done to death, along
with Echo effects and other novelty garbage 40+ years ago. Its just
another annoying form of distortion.

The whole audio industry disagrees with you.

The audio industry is run by empty suits these days.

I understand where you're coming from better than you might imagine, but
thankfully no 'suit' knows how to mix.

I loathe the 'suits' too.

Rarely is anything produced that is fit to listen to.

There's a lot of that going on for sure. I prefer LIVE music myself
(including reverb and compression) and I might be mixing it myself..

---
If you're mixing it, then the output isn't live and is subject to all of
the vagaries which make you think that because it sounds good to you it
should sound good to everyone else.

You have also now shown you don't know what a live performance is.

Jolly well done I say. Even orchestras have amplification these days.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:19:22 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



Jamie wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jamie wrote:

Oh btw, I also wrote some 8 Bit FFT code in a uc controller

Really ?

Mine was 32 bit code. Work out how to do that eh ?

Graham

Shit....
Any one that can't do higher precision in Uc's other than
what is supplied natively, does not belong coding in uc's

you're hitting bottom!..

and for you info, that was a 8 bit Uc but the FFT was 16 bit,.
more than enough.

FFTs have nothing to do with it.

---
Whoosh...

He nailed you and you don't even know why.

Delicious!

IDIOT

 

[Eeyore]

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:43:23 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Personally, I think any 'reverb' sucks.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant.

Your personal opinion in this matter is irrelevant, like in most
things you post. Reveb sucks. Period. It was done to death, along
with Echo effects and other novelty garbage 40+ years ago. Its just
another annoying form of distortion.

The whole audio industry disagrees with you.

The audio industry is run by empty suits these days.

I understand where you're coming from better than you might imagine, but
thankfully no 'suit' knows how to mix.

I loathe the 'suits' too.

Rarely is anything produced that is fit to listen to.

There's a lot of that going on for sure. I prefer LIVE music myself
(including reverb and compression) and I might be mixing it myself..

---
If you're mixing it, then the output isn't live and is subject to all of
the vagaries which make you think that because it sounds good to you it
should sound good to everyone else.

He's too stupid to understand that concept and too childish to admit
it..

You and Fields really are utterly out of touch with pro-audio. You're in no
position even to comment on it.

Graham

 

[JosephKK]

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:21:15 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Oct 16, 1:54 am, Angus <angus.thom...@gmail.com> wrote:
[Consider] a circuit that measures power usage of
mains devices (both 120V and/or 240V for here in the UK) but am
struggling to find a current transducer that will give enough
sensitivity at low currents (e.g. a few tens of mA for a phone
charger) as well as full scale measurement of 13A.

If you want a wattmeter that handles 13A and 13 mA both with
a percent or so accuracy, your ammeter part will have to be
dual-scale. It's going to be a small series resistor (a copper
wire, for instance) at 13A, and a much larger series resistor,
in a current-transformer secondary, for the 13 mA.

The small sense resistor and current transformer primary are
both in series with the load.

The trick is, your current-transformer will saturate (like, at 50 mA)
so the series resistance on its secondary is no longer in-circuit
when the power is high.

You do not seem know or understand squat about current transformers.
They are normally linear over 3 to 4 orders of magnitude, and can be
really fast (sub-nanosecond pulses, wound low nanosecond 300 A ones
myself). Specialized ones are useful to 6 orders of magnitude. You
can buy ones that go up to 10,000 A Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS).
Try Ion Physics stuff or clamp on ammeters for examples. Electric
service providers use them all the time for metering purposes.
The rest of the measurement system is up to the designer.

Use transconductance multipliers
to multiply the sense resistor voltage drop by the mains voltage,
converting the product to frequency (volt/frequency converter), then
use a
microprocessor to count the pulses. There may have to be
four volt/frequency converters, one for the (+) power/low current and
one for (-) power/low current, third for the (+) power/high current
and fourth for the (-) power/high current sections; that's because
voltage/frequency conversion doesn't behave well if the input
ever goes negative.

The microprocessor, each power cycle, must determine if the
low-current section saturated, and use the high-current data for
that time period, suitably scaled, if it did. If the low-current
section didn't reach saturation current, its associated count is
used instead, because it will be more accurate.

The 240V doesn't need similarly wide-range treatment, I trust.
If there were significant DC current drawn, that would render
the current-transformer circuit inaccurate, of course.

For extra credit, use multiple floating power supplies and op amp
current mirrors, and generalize the scheme to five separate
current ranges instead of just two...

 

[Martin Brown]

john jardine wrote:

"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:171befa1-a477-498d-b2e5-9c97a680d92a@y71g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
john jardine wrote:

Even though I can see the Emley Moor TV transmitter from my window and
have
a steerable Yagi and have just replaced my set top box with a new one
and
know I've an excellent signal cos the spectrum analyser says so, I still
see
a crap picture.

I'd have thought that close to a transmitter a piece of wet string
might be more appropriate.

A year ago it used to be 'nearly acceptable' now it's not even nearly.
Constant freezing, blocking out, loss of sound, paint-it-by-numbers
colours
and Max Headroom staccatos.

I only have that problem when it rains heavily (like last night). And
only then on the weaker stations but wrecked MPEG effect is pretty
annoying. The low signal degradation is anything but graceful and very
cubist. The diagnostics on my various set top boxes and internal dtv
shows that at what it calls signal = 5/10 the results are fine and at
4/10 it is worse than useless. The weaker stations hover around 6/10
in fine weather most of the main ones are 10/10 (and 9/10 in heavy
rain).

An inbuilt tendency to conspiracy theory has deduced I'm losing bit
bandwidth to that HD thing the broadcasters seem to be pushing. They
switch
off analogue in a couple of months, the telly's (and STBs) look like
they'll
be heading down the council recycling centre at the same time.
What diagnostics does your set top box provide? Mine shows signal
strength and bit error rate (the latter typically scores 10 or 0 so is
a pretty useless measure). I'd wonder about front end overloading as
they wind up the wick if you are within visual range of a nearby
transmitter. Maybe worth trying an attenuator...

It is a bit worrying that electronics engineers are having trouble
getting adequate performance out of dtv. What chance the general
public?

Yes. Literally a bit of wet string in the socket can bring in good analogue
TV!.
... I'm intrigued though by your mention of a possible built in diagnostics
facility. My exertion so far has been discovering which button to press to
change channels, so this evening I'll RTFM and have a poke about.

They don't go out of their way to advertise them. I don't think it is
even in the mentioned in the manuals, but prodding around somewhere
off the tuning or config menu there is a channel signal info display.
Once it is enabled you can flick between channels and see whatever it
chooses to display. Unfortunately the diagnostics are not as
informative as they could be at least on the boxes that I possess
(some are better than others). The oldest unit does skin tones clamped
to grey when the signal is marginal before it breaks down completely.
It is still the most sensitive of the units I have and fails last.

Also my new digital TV PC tuner card barely sees anything at all.
No overloading, tried the attenuator thing a while ago. Can also rotate the
aerial off beam and onto other much weaker signals.

You might be able to run custom software like Jan's on that to get a
real handle on what is going on here. Be glad you are not in the USA
their dtv broadcast signal is even more prone to multipath problems.

I notice the digital signal is coming off Emley tower at only! 50kW c.f. the
analogue power 870kW, so should maybe rationalise my problems to
tropospheric non-ducting, non-sporadic E or some local meteor scattering .
Best thing is to wait for switchover, give it a couple days and then dump
all the kit. Nothing worth watching anyway

Freesat ought to be OK for signal levels even if terrestrial is a
dog...
can't do much about the programming content though.

Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Martin Brown]

On Oct 21, 7:22 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@example.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:05:16 -0700, mpm wrote:

The point is, like everything else Republican the last 8 years, the
FCC also deregulated.

DE-regulated? Are you insane? What's "You must pay your hard-earned money
for this box to see TV any more" other than EXCESSIVE regulation?

It is pure market forces. You want to watch the TV in future you have
to buy the box.
A bit monopolistic I grant you. But if you want to receive the signal
then you have to buy a receiver and decoder.

Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2008-10-21, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Well good, does that mean we'll see a lot less of your vile here?

One of the few truly vile people round here is you.

Did you even bother following the links ?

he only posts links, he never even checks them.

Bye.
Jasen

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:49:19 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:19:22 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



Jamie wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jamie wrote:

Oh btw, I also wrote some 8 Bit FFT code in a uc controller

Really ?

Mine was 32 bit code. Work out how to do that eh ?

Graham

Shit....
Any one that can't do higher precision in Uc's other than
what is supplied natively, does not belong coding in uc's

you're hitting bottom!..

and for you info, that was a 8 bit Uc but the FFT was 16 bit,.
more than enough.

FFTs have nothing to do with it.

---
Whoosh...

He nailed you and you don't even know why.

Delicious!

IDIOT

---
Oh, my! How clever!!!

JF

 

[David Brown]

Joel Koltner wrote:

"David Brown" <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in message
news:48fd8b13$0$25391$8404b019@news.wineasy.se...
OOo looks more familiar to most MS Office users than the latest MS Office
versions.

This is a good point, although within a few years it'll resolve itself (i.e.,
people will be used to the ribbon). Hence my prediction that OO might end up
implementing a ribbon-style interface as well, as they're always walking the
fine line between copying aspects of MSO to make themselves attractive to
would-be "converts" vs. trying out their own not-yet-common ideas about the
best way to implement a GUI.

This is all true - and demonstrates what a small issue familiarity
actually is for most users.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if eventually OO becomes somewhat "skinnable"
so that you just select in the preferences whether you want a ribbon
interface, the traditional menu bar, or even something completely different
like the old Amiga or Mac style menus.

I've never understood the idea of mixing email and office programs - they
are very much independent concepts. OOo is missing an email program like
your car is missing a kitchen sink.

Yeah, it's definitely a bit of an "odd man out," although given how
common it is to simply e-mail Word/Excel files, perform mail merges based on
your contacts list, etc., I'm not surprised at the success Microsoft has had
at bundling Outlook into Office either. In the past few years they've been
trying to extend this "integration" to the web as well with Sharepoint...
although that effort seems to be meeting with mixed successes.

Mailing OOo files is not exactly hard - you select "File | send". OOo
help refers to "form letters" for mail merges - I've never used them, so
I can't comment any more than that.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:23:54 -0700, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote:

That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,


One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

There isn't. He's an employee of a licensed _business_. Why does the
loony left not understand that? Empty skulls I believe.

...Jim Thompson
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[Jim Yanik]

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
news6fuf4pgg2omkckpeudpk5j15ep4rfe0t7@4ax.com:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:23:54 -0700, UltimatePatriot
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote:

That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,


One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

There isn't. He's an employee of a licensed _business_. Why does the
loony left not understand that? Empty skulls I believe.

...Jim Thompson

No,they are acting based on their FEELINGS and not on any rational basis.
Thus their extreme hate and desire for vengeance over the 2000 and 2004
elections.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

[mpm]

On Oct 21, 11:23�pm, UltimatePatriot
<UltimatePatr...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:
That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,

ďż˝ One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

ďż˝ At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

You must have a hard-on for me or something.
Did you really feel the need to single this comment out, after I had
already said that I was merely using the words that Mike Terrell
posted?

Rather than try to ding me, why don't you go get you some education?
It would serve you better in the long run.

-mpm

 

[Jim Thompson]

On 22 Oct 2008 16:18:35 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
news6fuf4pgg2omkckpeudpk5j15ep4rfe0t7@4ax.com:


On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:23:54 -0700, UltimatePatriot
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote:

That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,


One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

There isn't. He's an employee of a licensed _business_. Why does the
loony left not understand that? Empty skulls I believe.

...Jim Thompson

No,they are acting based on their FEELINGS and not on any rational basis.
Thus their extreme hate and desire for vengeance over the 2000 and 2004
elections.

Even if they have to create fictional voters to do it :-(

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress
discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

- Alexis de Tocqueville

 

[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:42:55 -0700, Martin Brown wrote:

On Oct 21, 7:22 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@example.net
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:05:16 -0700, mpm wrote:

The point is, like everything else Republican the last 8 years, the
FCC also deregulated.

DE-regulated? Are you insane? What's "You must pay your hard-earned money
for this box to see TV any more" other than EXCESSIVE regulation?

It is pure market forces. You want to watch the TV in future you have
to buy the box.
A bit monopolistic I grant you. But if you want to receive the signal
then you have to buy a receiver and decoder.

So, should we all start wearing swastika armbands, marching the goose-step,
and saying "Seig Heil" whenever we see a bureaucrat?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard Henry]

On Oct 22, 7:48 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:23:54 -0700, UltimatePatriot

UltimatePatr...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:32:36 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:

That fact that JP hasn't been arrested yet is not itself proof of
anything,

 One does not get arrested for practicing plumbing without a license.

 At best, one would get cited to court IF there was even a statute for
it.

There isn't.  He's an employee of a licensed _business_.  Why does the
loony left not understand that?  Empty skulls I believe.

I'm guessing that Jim has so mnay people on his killfile list that he
has not yet seen the facts presented in denial of that thesis.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:56:23 +0100, john jardine wrote:

Yes. Literally a bit of wet string in the socket can bring in good analogue
TV!.

Heh. My UHF antenna is a Radio Shack clip lead and a venetian blind. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich