Driver to drive?

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...



Not everybody has math instincts. Maybe she has other talents, like
speaking three languages or something. Or maybe she's just dumb...
there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

John
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John, could YOU tell when it would have been 3/4 of the paper cup full just
by sight and without measuring it? Even though a paper cup in a cafe is
supposed to be the 12-oz size, a lot of them aren't really 12 ounces. What
if it had been 14 ounces if filled all the way to the top? Then what would
you have done? I agree that the girl probably just wasn't very bright. But
a lot of women are like that. Figuring things out just doesn't seem to be
their cup of tea. But I don't think you want to talk down to them or
ridicule them. Maybe I misjudged the tone of your post.

-Paul Popinjay
 
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay[nospam]@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"RichD" <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.


Rich, that's a good story but what was the poor girl supposed to do? Make
a rough guess as to when it was 7 ounces of hot water? That would be
pretty tough even for me, unless you have the little lines on the side of
the cup. A lot of people can't just "eyeball" a certain amount of ounces
in a paper cup. How do you know how wide the cup is?

-Paul Popinjay
Keyword: "about".
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It means approximately. The information "It's a 12 oz. paper cup" was
redundant.
3/4 * 12 = 9.
Paper cups are usually a section of a cone with the small end closed,
although
for drinking cold water in small quantities the small end diameter is often
zero.
http://www.alpineh2o.com/images/620.jpg
 
"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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Keyword: "about".
It means approximately. The information "It's a 12 oz. paper cup" was
redundant.
Click to expand...
I thought he only mentioned "12 oz paper cup" once, but even so.
Obviously he didn't expect the girl to measure it. But what if the cup was
actually more than 12 ounces? What if it held 14 ounces, even though it was
assumed to hold 12? Would you end up with the cup being under-filled? Why
not just order a "medium" and hope that it was close to the 7 ounce mark
that Rich was hoping to get?

-Paul P.
 
Modern lawyers (and I've dated a
few) are people of power.

Right. And I've dated a software engineer from Adobe, so I know
everything about the field of programming.
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Obviously not about the field of dating.. <VVBG>
 
"RichD" <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...
Click to expand...
It's possible she's a math genius and figured you weren't.

"3/4 full" is not the same as "3/4 to the top". You're dealing with a
truncated cone, not a cylinder
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:16:32 -0700, "Paul Popinjay"
paulpopinjay[nospam]@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


John, could YOU tell when it would have been 3/4 of the paper cup full
just
by sight and without measuring it?

By height, sure, within a few per cent probably. I could probbably
also make a decent instinctive correction to 3/4 volume, based on
eyeballing the taper.



I have very good size and volume instincts. I can tell fairly
precisely if the beans in a round pot will fit into a rectangular
plastic container, stuff like that. 3/4 full is second nature to us
visual-spatial types. My wife is very smart but helpless with stuff
like sizes and volumes and fractions and algebra. But she's a speech
pathologist and can do other things I couldn't dream of. People are
different.

And some people just aren't very smart. As I said, there's nothing
wrong with that. They may have other virtues and, anyhow, people who
are smart got that way by accident, so have no cause to be proud or
smug.

A lot of people here think that being smart makes them superior. Now
*that's* dumb.
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I think both Rich and the girl assumed the paper cup was only12 ounces. If
unbeknownst to them the cup was actually 14 or 15 ounces, he'd have to ask
for her to fill it with more water to get the same results. In that case if
he'd asked for 5/8ths full I would not have expected her to get it right. I
would be surprised if she did.

-Paul P.
 
<hey.wood_jablome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 30, 11:57 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:16:32 -0700, "Paul Popinjay"



paulpopinjay[nospam]@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...

Not everybody has math instincts. Maybe she has other talents, like
speaking three languages or something. Or maybe she's just dumb...
there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

John

John, could YOU tell when it would have been 3/4 of the paper cup full
just
by sight and without measuring it?

By height, sure, within a few per cent probably. I could probbably
also make a decent instinctive correction to 3/4 volume, based on
eyeballing the taper.

Even though a paper cup in a cafe is
supposed to be the 12-oz size, a lot of them aren't really 12 ounces.
What
if it had been 14 ounces if filled all the way to the top? Then what
would
you have done? I agree that the girl probably just wasn't very bright.
But
a lot of women are like that. Figuring things out just doesn't seem to be
their cup of tea. But I don't think you want to talk down to them or
ridicule them. Maybe I misjudged the tone of your post.

-Paul Popinjay

I have very good size and volume instincts. I can tell fairly
precisely if the beans in a round pot will fit into a rectangular
plastic container, stuff like that. 3/4 full is second nature to us
visual-spatial types. My wife is very smart but helpless with stuff
like sizes and volumes and fractions and algebra. But she's a speech
pathologist and can do other things I couldn't dream of. People are
different.

And some people just aren't very smart. As I said, there's nothing
wrong with that. They may have other virtues and, anyhow, people who
are smart got that way by accident, so have no cause to be proud or
smug.

A lot of people here think that being smart makes them superior. Now
*that's* dumb.

John
Click to expand...
I cannot believe you assholes are this disinterested in current
events...

***
Go look at the 250 other threads.
 
In article <3DDEk.1078$kI6.153@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldinyyz@verizon.net> wrote:

hey.wood_jablome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 30, 11:57 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:16:32 -0700, "Paul Popinjay"



paulpopinjay[nospam]@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...

Not everybody has math instincts. Maybe she has other talents, like
speaking three languages or something. Or maybe she's just dumb...
there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

John

John, could YOU tell when it would have been 3/4 of the paper cup full
just
by sight and without measuring it?

By height, sure, within a few per cent probably. I could probbably
also make a decent instinctive correction to 3/4 volume, based on
eyeballing the taper.

Even though a paper cup in a cafe is
supposed to be the 12-oz size, a lot of them aren't really 12 ounces.
What
if it had been 14 ounces if filled all the way to the top? Then what
would
you have done? I agree that the girl probably just wasn't very bright.
But
a lot of women are like that. Figuring things out just doesn't seem to be
their cup of tea. But I don't think you want to talk down to them or
ridicule them. Maybe I misjudged the tone of your post.

-Paul Popinjay

I have very good size and volume instincts. I can tell fairly
precisely if the beans in a round pot will fit into a rectangular
plastic container, stuff like that. 3/4 full is second nature to us
visual-spatial types. My wife is very smart but helpless with stuff
like sizes and volumes and fractions and algebra. But she's a speech
pathologist and can do other things I couldn't dream of. People are
different.

And some people just aren't very smart. As I said, there's nothing
wrong with that. They may have other virtues and, anyhow, people who
are smart got that way by accident, so have no cause to be proud or
smug.

A lot of people here think that being smart makes them superior. Now
*that's* dumb.

John

I cannot believe you assholes are this disinterested in current
events...
Click to expand...
We may be disinterested, but we are not uninterested.

Disinterested does not imply uninterested.

Judges are supposed to be disinterested in the outcomes of the trials
over which they preside, but are definitely not supposed to be
uninterested.

Proximity/Franklin U.S. English Thesaurus

1 meaning(s) for łdisinterested˛

1. (adj) rendering judgment not influenced by bias
€ (synonym) fair, dispassionate, equitable, even-handed, impartial,
just, nondiscriminatory, objective, unbiased, unprejudiced, nonpartisan,
uncolored, fair-minded
€ (related) unbiassed
€ (antonym) unfair
 
"RichD" <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...

"I'll sell my bonds." - Ronald Reagan
Click to expand...

Why didn't you just get a full cup and throw what you didn't want away?

It's a no brainer.
 
Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-17D640.18315030092008@news.la.sbcglobal.net:

In article <Xns9B29A1684D56Fres0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-B0CD2A.14570030092008@news.la.sbcglobal.ne
t:

In article <Xns9B2996D2EE5A1res0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Anyone for Term Limits? :)

Yep. They're called "elections". ;-)

That was also true before the 22nd amendment, why is it different for
congress?

I think of it the other way: Why is it different for the President?
Click to expand...
LOL! Because it passed Congress! :)

Steve Hawkins
 
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay[nospam]@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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Keyword: "about".
It means approximately. The information "It's a 12 oz. paper cup" was
redundant.


I thought
Click to expand...
Really? Try again. Begin by "reading" instead of snipping, then you
won't have to think, all the information will be there.
 
In article <Xns9B29EA62726D0res0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-17D640.18315030092008@news.la.sbcglobal.net:

In article <Xns9B29A1684D56Fres0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-B0CD2A.14570030092008@news.la.sbcglobal.ne
t:

In article <Xns9B2996D2EE5A1res0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Anyone for Term Limits? :)

Yep. They're called "elections". ;-)

That was also true before the 22nd amendment, why is it different for
congress?

I think of it the other way: Why is it different for the President?

LOL! Because it passed Congress! :)

Steve Hawkins
Click to expand...
OK, so the answer to your question is because it hasn't passed Congress!
 
In article <ako5e41tik2ifbrl25e7svsalqhcjl49m2@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:44:53 -0700, Jenn
jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote:

In article <4u55e4tdihqppc8osm6c936u1s023rkq16@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:07:52 -0700, Jenn
jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote:

In article <egh4e49kmstfacn5js07kpth6magcv87vk@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:20:55 -0700, Jenn <jennconducts@mac.com> wrote:

In article <af04e413dn7fmkjs8085jr2pi550bd6b0m@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

No contest. Nancy Pelosi may have just set the record as making the
most stupid, and most expensive, 1-minute speech in human history.

rtsp://video1.c-span.org/project/economy/econ092908_pelosi.rm


John

So some placed their vote on the most important issue of the year
based
on the fact that they were insulted?

Did she expect to pass this critical legislation by insulting the
votes she needed?

John

I'm not saying that it was smart timing, but for the Repubs to claim
that they voted against it because their widdle feelings were hurt is
simply juvenile.

She adbicated a national leadership position for partisan
game-playing, and diminished herself in the process.

I agree that the timing for that statement was poor.

It was a very
hard sell to conservatives already.

And to many liberals as well.

If she brings down the US economy,
millions will suffer and many will die.

Again, you're stating that if the US economy comes down, it's because
the Speaker insulted some people. Are you sure that this is a position
you want to stick with?

Yup. Wars have be fought over misunderstandings, pride, and loss of
face. "Little" things like this can matter.

John
Click to expand...
OK. Got it. The House Republicans are willing to vote for the bill in
order to save the country from the agony of the national economy taking.
Then some mean things were said to them, and they are no longer willing
to vote for the bill that would save the economy. Obviously, saving the
economy is less important to House Republicans than having their
feelings hurt. I urge you guys to run with that.

Obviously, the real news here is Bush and McCain being thrown under the
bus by the House Republicans.
 
Jenn <jennconducts@mac.com> wrote in
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In article <Xns9B29EA62726D0res0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-17D640.18315030092008@news.la.sbcglobal.ne
t:

In article <Xns9B29A1684D56Fres0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Jenn <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac.com> wrote in
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-B0CD2A.14570030092008@news.la.sbcglobal
.ne t:

In article <Xns9B2996D2EE5A1res0pf02verizonnet@199.45.49.11>,
Steve Hawkins <res0pf02@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Anyone for Term Limits? :)

Yep. They're called "elections". ;-)

That was also true before the 22nd amendment, why is it different
for congress?

I think of it the other way: Why is it different for the
President?

LOL! Because it passed Congress! :)

Steve Hawkins

OK, so the answer to your question is because it hasn't passed
Congress!
Click to expand...
Wee conflict of interest there, doncha think? There ought to be some
process whereby such legislation goes direcctly to the people for a vote,
a national referendum, if you will. Of course, guess who would have to
approve said process. <sigh>

Steve Hawkins
 
"Pepe Papon" <hitmeister@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was at a cafe the other day, I asked the
girl at the counter for a cup of hot water.
It's a 12 oz. paper cup. I tell her, "Fill it
about 3/4."

She hesitates, then "Fractions aren't
my strong point, can you show me how
much you'd like?" I had to point to the
level to dispense.

That's right - "3/4 to the top" literally
boggled her mind! I fall into a
melancholia, I fear for posterity... homo
sapiens had a good run, but nothing
lasts forever...

I went into McDonald's with my kids and ordered a Happy Meal with
Chicken McNuggets. The guy at the register asked me what size
McNuggets I would like, and I replied "A half-dozen."

He then informed me that they don't have the option to order a
half-dozen, and that the only choices were four or six.

Just to be sure, I asked him, "I can't get a half-dozen, but I can get
six?" He confirmed that this was correct.

I ordered six.
Call the manager over next time and get him/her to confirm this.
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"~M~" <mwillnotread@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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Really? Try again. Begin by "reading" instead of snipping, then you
won't have to think, all the information will be there.

Snipping is good,
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What was it you said again?
 
"~M~"

Really? Try again. Begin by "reading" instead of snipping, then you
won't have to think, all the information will be there.

Snipping is good, so everyone doesn't have to read down lines of quoted
text. The purpose of snipping is not to hide what was said, it is to make
this nonsense at least readable.
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Paul is roaring and this guy comes along and shoves a sliver of bamboo under
his toenail in a most unfriendly way ... and you come along and want to cut
off his foot. That is not a pleasant story at all.
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:06:51 -0700 (PDT), James Harris
<james.harris.1@googlemail.com> wrote:

On 30 Sep, 09:51, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
XMOS has just announced a $99 dev kit for their XC-1 device. I've put
my name down for one:

https://products.xmos.com/

I used to work with transputers, it's nice to see that the concept has
been resurrected.

Thanks for posting this. I may try then out too time permitting.

The original concept was awesome. Hope David May et al have the
business model right this time. For one thing the new devices seem far
more accessible. A four-core CPU, development board and software for
$99 is a good price.
Click to expand...
This time, they seem to offer free development enviroment and core
seems to me more main-stream like, which ease fast learning.

(Also I guess a lot of people will struggle with the threading :)

I'm keen on to port my company's RTOS :)

I have read some of the documentation. The new device looks similar to
the old one but there are some intriguing differences.
Click to expand...
Yes, no negative addressess (AFAICS).


--
42Bastian
Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :)
Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
 
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
Wheher it's an EPS plastic cup or a paper cup, it would be a very good
approximation to assume that the inner (liquid filled) volume of the
cup was a circular frustum, so I guess you could solve for the correct
ratio of perpendicular fill heights, but the algebra might be a bit
messy (a rare opportunity to use the closed form cubic solution,
maybe?). The actual draft angle isn't usually that much so eyeballing
would be close enough.

Maybe it would be easier if she filled three cups to the normal level,
and then divided the total amount into four equal portions using a
fourth empty cup, then discarded the left-over quarter and then
combined the contents of the remaining three into one of the cups. ;-)
Click to expand...
I'm not trying to be argumentative and I don't want to drag this thread out
unnecessarily. But originally he wanted the 12-oz cup to be about 3/4 full.
How could he expect a normal everyday waitress to judge and stop filling it
at 7 ounces? I could see if he had asked her for half full.

-Paul Popinjay
Asst. Coordinator, Rec.Gambling.Poker
 
"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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Keyword: "about".
It means approximately. The information "It's a 12 oz. paper cup" was
redundant.


I thought

Really? Try again. Begin by "reading" instead of snipping, then you
won't have to think, all the information will be there.
Click to expand...
Thank you, Androcles, but I have been tasked with coordinating the threads
on rec.gambling.poker and I try my best. I'm not even being paid for this.
Our group started out many years ago as mostly discussions about poker. But
as you can see it has blossomed into a place where we have many off-topic
threads and especially some very interesting and insightful political
discussions. When I first started coordinating the threads it was right
after the 2004 upgrade. The group was much more manageable. Until that
time the senior coordinator had been doing much of the work by himself.
Please check your Profile, Androcles, check to see if the confirmation
number is in the box in the upper righthand corner, or if it is grayed out.
I have to go to my real job soon and I will try to straighten some things
out here when I get home. Obviously we have a sudden surge in the traffic
on rec.gambling.poker. That is a good thing! I just want to see that it
gets done right. I take pride in how I have coordinated this group even
though I don't get paid for it and sometimes it seems thankless.

Thank you, Androcles, and have a good day, I'll check in from work later.

Best regards,
-Paul Popinjay
Asst. Coordinator, Rec.Gambling.Poker
 
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