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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:01:30 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:38:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:


My rock 'n' roll CD collection includes all the Beatles' works.

---
Got any Procol Harum or Rotary Connection?

JF

I don't recognize that... whatzit?

...Jim Thompson
Procol Harum; Whiter Shade of Pale was their big hit. a great song.

Did it ever make it to CD?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
 
James Arthur <dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 20, 6:56=A0pm, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote:
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:19:26 GMT, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]
E-mailed to me today by daughter-in-law Renee, widow of my second son
Duane.

Jim, just one question: do you have insurances?

Not sure of WHY you are asking... but yes.

An insurance is the same thing: you work for the money you pay to the
insurance company. If someone else slips up, he (or she) gets away
with the money you worked for. Distribution of wealth (communism) is
stupid, but having some (government regulated) insurance that keeps
people on their feet is not.


So you're saying knocking 1.0 off the studious girl's grade-point
average and giving it to the partying girl is insurance?, that it
keeps the party-girl on her feet?
Nope. Goverment should prevent party girl to go to a party and
threaten her to take away her other points as well. Thats how
unemployed people are treated over here. But if people really can't
work they'll receive money to keep them of the street.

--
Programmeren in Almere?
E-mail naar nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
 
"James Arthur" <dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 20, 10:15 pm, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:56:41 GMT, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:19:26 GMT, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]
E-mailed to me today by daughter-in-law Renee, widow of my second
son
Duane.

Jim, just one question: do you have insurances?

Not sure of WHY you are asking... but yes.

An insurance is the same thing: you work for the money you pay to the
insurance company. If someone else slips up, he (or she) gets away
with the money you worked for. Distribution of wealth (communism) is
stupid, but having some (government regulated) insurance that keeps
people on their feet is not.

Insurance companies ARE regulated in the US and are required to have
reserves sufficient to meet claims, otherwise they're taken over by
either state or federal regulators.

This recent fiasco is due to Clinton approving the removal of
restraints on investment banks, who then got into mortgage
_instruments_.

Clinton's fault? Boy there's a republican speaking. Republicans never want
to take any repsonsibility for the mess they create. What bastards. BTW do
you know who Phil Gramm is? Who are the biggest deregulators in congress?
Who championed degregulation? Which presidential candidate said, "I'm for
more deregulation"?

Don't answer. Your answers are nonsequiturs. Why don't you have your
daughter answer instead?
Ultimately, political correctness caused it. Clinton's overzealous
attempt to bring loans to minorities--qualified or not, by way of the
changes he made under the Community Reinvestment Act--demanded that
banks adopt unsound lending practices to meet their statutory lending
quotas. That planted the seed.

Or should we say ACORN?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306544845091102

Interestingly, ACORN, a group lobbying for these inner city loans, was
represented at that time by ... Mr. Barack Obama.

Small world, isn't it?

Grins,
James Arthur

Yeah right! A trillion in bad loan debt by defaulting minorities? It's all
due to them lousy negras and spics and gooks. That's what we republicans
say. If the loans were made to white christian folks we wouldn't have this
problem, Huh? Only the worst kind of racist bigot (read republican) would
make such an absurd claim that the trillion dollar problem is caused by
loans to minorities, and of course, It's all Clinton's fault! Idiot.
 
Eeyore wrote:
isw wrote:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
it happened Don Pearce wrote

Actually the "right" place to connect the feedback sensing
resistor is right out at the speaker itself, via a third sensing
wire.

Ha, why did I never think of that...
This will eliminate my massive gold feed rods to the woofer.

You will need 2 sensing wires, and a diff amp.

If you really think that's important (and I don't), why not just put
the amplifiers near the speakers? That way, there won't be any nasty
stability problems to deal with.

They're called active speakers and are widely used by many
professionals.
Indeed.

I don't actually like powered speakers though. They need *two* leads. Just
more hassle in setting up for the gig.


Kevin Aylward
www.blonddee.co.uk
www.anasoft.co.uk
 
Paul wrote:

But I don't agree that taxes are a royalty, or that they reflect
one's share of benefit from society.

And the idea that the elite should pay for everyone else's benefits--
which is the actual effect--would mean only the elite would have all
the influence and power. Surely that isn't and couldn't be good.



No, that would be taking some of their money and
then using it for the good of the whole, or the public at
large, instead of waiting til they die before they decide
to give it away to charity. That's taking power away from
them. Don't hold your breath to wait for rich CEOs to
give away their money: Notice they only do this if it
puts them into a lower tax bracket!
I don't see that rich people actually have the money. Its a closed system.
If someone has say, notionally, $1B in the bank, well.. they don't, it has
been already lent out to other people that don't have the money themselves.
Wealth is sort of an illusion. If all the people that thought they had
money, tried to get it, it wouldn't be there. In reality, their money is
already being used by someone else.

Look at the disparity of the CEOs salaries
compared to the common workers wages. They
keep getting bigger and bigger. What's the difference
if a guy has 9 mansions instead of 10?
Who built the houses: Who cleans them? So a few people have a few extra
houses, I don't see that that makes much odds in the big scheme of things.
For wealth to mean anything, it must be spent, in doing so, the person who
the money is spent on gains the benefit of that wealth.

If a rich dude pays $400 for an oxygen free power cord, where does that
money go? What does the person that receives the $400 do with it? Or the
person that he in turn gives in purchase of something else. Waste would be
paying someone to dig a hole, then fill it in again. Other than that, it all
comes out in the wash. Some particular person might be getting ripped off in
paying $400 for a Ł2 power cord, but the final result don't change for the
wealth of the population. No work credits (money) are actully lost.

Do they
really need that much extra money? Surely, they
are already extremely comfortable.
If a rich dude with $1B gave it all away to say, each American, then they
would get $4 each. Like so what.. What could those millions do with the $4?
The dude with the notional full amount could at least, in principle, build a
factory and so forth.

Kevin Aylward
www.blonddee.co.uk
www.anasoft.co.uk
 
Kevin Aylward wrote:
Don't you at least agree there are many similarities between 1/f
noise and offset?


Actually, I do. By and large, they amount to the same thing. Its all low
frequency variations. For example, if one designs a chopper amp to get low
offset, it also kills/corrects for 1/f noise as well. If one has 1/f
problems in an system, one immediately thinks about using a chopper..well
I
do any way...
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. :)
 
MooseFET wrote:
If you look for an op-amp with an extremely low offset voltage, you
will find that it uses MOSFETs to obtain that extreme low offset.
Quite right. In hindsight, I could've been more clear about this not being
relevant here, I just didn't want any "You're wrong because MOSFETs have
lower offset"-type responses, so that's why I mentioned it...
 
Jan Panteltje write:
You mean you do not watch TV and listen to radio?
And have no cellphone too?
I mean I try to avoid wireless whenever possible. So when I'm at home, I
watch cable TV and listen cable radio and use my landline phone...
 
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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National's LME49710/20/40 amd LM4562 seem to have the best figures at
2.5nV/sqrt Hz but in a practical circuit I found the venerable NE5534
with its 3.5 nV/sqrt Hz was quieter, presumably due to lower input noise
current in that particular configuration.

The LMEs also have insanely low THD
RL = 600ohms 0.00003% (typ)

http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LME49710.html
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4562.html

Does anyone know of anything better without sacrificing unity gain
stability or THD ?

Graham
Not got round to using it yet but the ADA4899 looks tasty. 1nV, 0.7ppm,
600MHz.
 
"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
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..that is what the damn window says with the following incomplete and
useless "Access is denied" message.
Access to what? Where? Why? --- ZERO info. POS.
This happens almost exactly half the way thru the process as seen by
the progress bar.
What is more irritating that all of the work that had been done is
then UNDONE!

How in the #$&@#)^%!%^# can this be fixed?
From install (over 2 years ago) I never allowed XP to update. Since then
have not picked up any crud, or experienced any of the problems that seem
rife with XP. (touch wood!).
 
"RichD" <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Who do MOSFET sound better than bipolar, as an audio amp output
driver?
A lot of bits have been spilled on this thread so far, but I think it is the
same question as "Why do tubes sound better than transistors?" or "How many
angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

First of all, it implies a truth that may not objectively be the case. But
tubes, BJTs and MOSFETs all have very different characteristics and
engineering trade-offs. I think it has been reasonably well established that
it is possible to make excellent sounding amplifiers with any of those
technologies.

In the end, I think it boils down to the experience and skill of the
engineer in working with a given technology, and how that impacts the
economics of producing the end product using said technology.

For example, I think we no longer use vacuum tubes for mainstream audio
power amplifiers because they:

1. Require an additional power supply and heat to operate.
2. Are bulky compared to their solid-state alternatives.
3. Are not available in complimentary pairs (e.g., P-channel/N-channel)
4. Have output impedance that usually requires an output transformer.

None of these are insurmountable obstacles, but they do increase the size,
cost, power consumption and heat load for a given output power.

Similar, but less obvious considerations affect the choice of BJTs and
MOSFETs. They have different characteristics, and the skilled engineer will
exploit them for optimal effect -- sonic quality, economy, reliability and
so on. The marketing department will define the requirements for the product
based on the target market, and the engineer will attempt to design a
product that fits within those constraints. In all that I have read here, I
have not seen anything that would consistently make me select MOSFETs over
BJTs. But I might have a preference based on a *given set* of product
requirements.
 
"Martin Griffith" <mart_in_medina@yah00.es> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:51:38 +0100, in sci.electronics.design "john
jardine" <john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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National's LME49710/20/40 amd LM4562 seem to have the best figures at
2.5nV/sqrt Hz but in a practical circuit I found the venerable NE5534
with its 3.5 nV/sqrt Hz was quieter, presumably due to lower input noise
current in that particular configuration.

The LMEs also have insanely low THD
RL = 600ohms 0.00003% (typ)

http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LME49710.html
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4562.html

Does anyone know of anything better without sacrificing unity gain
stability or THD ?

Graham


Not got round to using it yet but the ADA4899 looks tasty. 1nV, 0.7ppm,
600MHz.

Open the window, more shit flies in.
600MHz is not required for audio, only audiophools

martin
It's not that 600MHz of bandwidth is directly required, but rather that all
of the musical harmonics in the 20KHz to 600MHz band be passed through
linearly and not (inter)modulated down into the audible band.

I guarantee that any self-respecting audiophile will be able to hear the
difference -- as long as you warn him or her ahead of time.

:-|

Bob
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"Martin Griffith" <mart_in_medina@yah00.es> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:51:38 +0100, in sci.electronics.design "john
jardine" <john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48D6A215.52D62814@hotmail.com...
National's LME49710/20/40 amd LM4562 seem to have the best figures at
2.5nV/sqrt Hz but in a practical circuit I found the venerable NE5534
with its 3.5 nV/sqrt Hz was quieter, presumably due to lower input
noise
current in that particular configuration.

The LMEs also have insanely low THD
RL = 600ohms 0.00003% (typ)

http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LME49710.html
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4562.html

Does anyone know of anything better without sacrificing unity gain
stability or THD ?

Graham


Not got round to using it yet but the ADA4899 looks tasty. 1nV, 0.7ppm,
600MHz.

Open the window, more shit flies in.
600MHz is not required for audio, only audiophools

martin
Yes.
I was thinking more of it allowing a gain of say x5000 to 100kHz. The chip's
low Vos allowing this in one hit.
 
"john jardine" <john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:jPydnQABK6jgfEjVnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@posted.localnet...
..that is what the damn window says with the following incomplete and
useless "Access is denied" message.
Access to what? Where? Why? --- ZERO info. POS.
This happens almost exactly half the way thru the process as seen by
the progress bar.
What is more irritating that all of the work that had been done is
then UNDONE!

How in the #$&@#)^%!%^# can this be fixed?

From install (over 2 years ago) I never allowed XP to update. Since then
have not picked up any crud, or experienced any of the problems that
seem
rife with XP. (touch wood!).
Yep. I'll second that.

My laptop with SP2 has never been updated and it runs flawlessly.

My SP2 desktop had updates enabled and it became more unstable as time went
on. Eventually, it wouldn't run more than a couple of hours without some
serious type of error occuring. I reloaded its original XP-SP2, updates are
now OFF, and it runs perfectly. The only thing that I update is IE to kill
any security issues.

As Henry Higgins once said, "I shall never let an SP3 in my life!"

Bob
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:11:11 +0100, Mike V <mike@invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:30:45 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com
wrote:


Ultimately, political correctness caused it. Clinton's overzealous
attempt to bring loans to minorities--qualified or not, by way of the
changes he made under the Community Reinvestment Act--demanded that
banks adopt unsound lending practices to meet their statutory lending
quotas. That planted the seed.

Or should we say ACORN?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306544845091102

Interestingly, ACORN, a group lobbying for these inner city loans, was
represented at that time by ... Mr. Barack Obama.

Small world, isn't it?

Grins,
James Arthur

Yeah right! A trillion in bad loan debt by defaulting minorities? It's
all
due to them lousy negras and spics and gooks. That's what we republicans
say. If the loans were made to white christian folks we wouldn't have
this
problem, Huh? Only the worst kind of racist bigot (read republican) would
make such an absurd claim that the trillion dollar problem is caused by
loans to minorities, and of course, It's all Clinton's fault! Idiot.


Bob, I ain't American so don't really care about your parties.

But, the analysis in the link looks OK to an outsider. If it's wrong
offer a reasoned argument not a rant. To be honest your rant
completely undermines your case.

The analysis looks OK here because it's the sort of stupid thing Tony
Bliar and Gordon Brown have been doing over here for the last 10
years.

Bob Eld has earned a JERK rating in my NewsProxy filter ;-)
It's the standard liberal tactic. If you can't argue about substance just
call them a racist. Bob's a typical ignorant liberal. (it's funny how these
guys claim/act as if they are more accepting of other cultures/views/etc
then turn around and do the same shit they are supposedly criticizing.

Bob just gave us a new word of the day! CAN EVERYONE SAY HYPOCRITE!!!
 
"Mike V" <mike@invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:30:45 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com
wrote:


Ultimately, political correctness caused it. Clinton's overzealous
attempt to bring loans to minorities--qualified or not, by way of the
changes he made under the Community Reinvestment Act--demanded that
banks adopt unsound lending practices to meet their statutory lending
quotas. That planted the seed.

Or should we say ACORN?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306544845091102

Interestingly, ACORN, a group lobbying for these inner city loans, was
represented at that time by ... Mr. Barack Obama.

Small world, isn't it?

Grins,
James Arthur

Yeah right! A trillion in bad loan debt by defaulting minorities? It's
all
due to them lousy negras and spics and gooks. That's what we republicans
say. If the loans were made to white christian folks we wouldn't have
this
problem, Huh? Only the worst kind of racist bigot (read republican) would
make such an absurd claim that the trillion dollar problem is caused by
loans to minorities, and of course, It's all Clinton's fault! Idiot.


Bob, I ain't American so don't really care about your parties.

But, the analysis in the link looks OK to an outsider. If it's wrong
offer a reasoned argument not a rant. To be honest your rant
completely undermines your case.

The analysis looks OK here because it's the sort of stupid thing Tony
Bliar and Gordon Brown have been doing over here for the last 10
years.
Oh, you mean Tony the Lap Dog, Bush's little poodle? Tell us about it.
 
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:rj0dd41q8em6gngm2rg2msvk6i7gusi6mb@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:11:11 +0100, Mike V <mike@invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:30:45 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com
wrote:


Ultimately, political correctness caused it. Clinton's overzealous
attempt to bring loans to minorities--qualified or not, by way of the
changes he made under the Community Reinvestment Act--demanded that
banks adopt unsound lending practices to meet their statutory lending
quotas. That planted the seed.

Or should we say ACORN?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306544845091102

Interestingly, ACORN, a group lobbying for these inner city loans, was
represented at that time by ... Mr. Barack Obama.

Small world, isn't it?

Grins,
James Arthur

Yeah right! A trillion in bad loan debt by defaulting minorities? It's
all
due to them lousy negras and spics and gooks. That's what we republicans
say. If the loans were made to white christian folks we wouldn't have
this
problem, Huh? Only the worst kind of racist bigot (read republican)
would
make such an absurd claim that the trillion dollar problem is caused by
loans to minorities, and of course, It's all Clinton's fault! Idiot.


Bob, I ain't American so don't really care about your parties.

But, the analysis in the link looks OK to an outsider. If it's wrong
offer a reasoned argument not a rant. To be honest your rant
completely undermines your case.

The analysis looks OK here because it's the sort of stupid thing Tony
Bliar and Gordon Brown have been doing over here for the last 10
years.

Bob Eld has earned a JERK rating in my NewsProxy filter ;-)

...Jim Thompson
When are we going to hear from your daughter?
 

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