Driver to drive?

[Paul Burridge]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:40:37 +0000, Steve Taylor
<steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:



[snip]

Kipling (who I recall lost his son in WW1, though keen for him to
enlist) also wrote:

"...When you're wounded and lying on Afghanistan's plains, and the
women come out to cut up what remains; just roll to your rifle and
blow out your brains and go to your God like a soldier!"

--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:11:23 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
<null@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:49:45 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:24:57 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

Squeezing jello in Iraq
By Scott Ritter

---
Scott Ritter is a traitorous son of a bitch who should be shot.

Yup. Anybody who disagrees with der fuehrer is a disloyal traitor
and should be shot.

---
THE JUDGE

I live in a haze
where grey must be black or white
and I draw the lines.


--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:17:42 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
<null@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:36:09 -0600, John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:27:13 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
If I ever went into battle I'd want someone in charge who was as
^^^^^^^^
willing to get behind his commander in chief and follow his orders as
he would expect me to get behind him and follow his.
Ah, you want a puppet on a string in charge, and be a puppet on a string
yourself too.

That's what being in the military is all about, Frank. You don't get to
^^^^^^^^^^^^
vote on whether you'll do what you're told to or not, you just do it, or
^^^^
else you don't and you accept the consequences.

Can you say doublethink, boys and girls?

POLLUTION

The meaning is clear
but not what others should hear.
Time to stir in mud.


--
John Fields

 

[Rolavine]

From: Rich The Philosophizer null@example.net


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:40:23 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

Product developer wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:24:57 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:


Squeezing jello in Iraq
By Scott Ritter

---
Scott Ritter is a traitorous son of a bitch who should be shot.


Only a degenerate like Bloggs could rely on the words of another
degenerate.

Scott Ritter - Traitor - Was Arrested Soliciting Sex from Teenage Girl
By: Capital News 9 web staff
According to newspaper reports this weekend, former UN weapons
inspector and Delmar native Scott Ritter was arrested for a Class B
misdemeanor.

Only in the nation that freaked when it saw Janet Jacksons tit does this
matter.

Yeah - and this in the country where two out of three commercials are for
hardon pills.

Thanks,
Rich

I think it's time to give rich the Prestigious SElecDesign WAG Award!

Do I hear a second!

Rocky

 

[Frithiof Andreas Jensen]

"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:20041110173747.00289.00000362@mb-m17.aol.com...

So much for progress and regulations.

I think the simplest theory explaining your observations is that the 'CE'
labels were Made in China Too!

 

[Terry Given]

Joerg wrote:

Hi Terry,

Snap. Its a dreadful trick, but it works really well. Interestingly
enough I first saw the technique used with modulating switching
frequencies in AC motor drives, to reduce acoustical noise - it turns
out people are really good at hearing (and being annoyed by) single
tones, but the hashy sound when Fsw is sloshed around is a lot less
irritating, even though the amount of energy remains the same.



In audio that's understandable. However, there are also reverse efforts.
I remember when, according to rumors, Alfa Romeo designed the intake
path of the car's engine so that a distinct roar developed because
drivers liked that sporty sound.

In EMI it is sometimes not nice to play that dither trick. But as with
all regs, people try to find any conceivable loophole that is legal.

A lot of EMC tests are bollocks like that too - with a drive the
output cable capacitance plays a HUGE role in conducted and radiated
emissions (unless you put really big dV/dt filters on the output) but
the tests only require a short length of cable, and for big drives the
motor doesnt have to be loaded - partly because not many EMC test
sites can load up a 600kW machine, let alone supply enough juuice .
Net result: our CE marked drive that passes all of the relevant EMC
standards will fail by 40dB when you connect 100m of cable to the
output, which is what usually happens (unless they connect 2.8km of
cable - very common in remote pumping stations, where the drive tends
to be somewhere accessible, rather than beside the motor)



At least per law the whole installation must be below a certain field
strength at a certain distance. But I guess this is hardly enforced
unless there are complaints. And even then it may depend on who complains.

Regards, Joerg

Hi Joerg,

practicality does come into it. In theory a steel mill (Hitachi make
these) ought to pass emissions too, but they are really hard to fit into
shielded enclosures. Oh, and if you use 2.8km of cable, you fail by a
LOT more than 40dB

Cheers
Terry

 

[Rich Grise]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:42:28 +0100, Frank Birbacher wrote:

Hi!

I've already posted some questions to this newsgroup. Here I want
to sum the answers up. I want you to confirm I'm doing the right
thing And there are still some questions.

Ok, to drive my 3 (maybe I expand it to 4) LEDs via pwm I want to
do the following:

I'm given 3 times 8bit of logic outputs of IOWarrior. Each of
those "packets" of 8bit is compared to a 8bit up counter. For the
counter I want to use the 74393 chip. The "less" output of each
comparator goes to a FET each of which will feed one of the three
LEDs. For the comparator I thought of chip 74684, but maybe I
cannot get it.
Are there alternatives to 74684/685?

http://www.google.com/search?q=8-bit+magnitude+comparator&btnG=Search

The counter will be driven by a oscillator with a constant frequency of
about 10-30kHz. The oscillator consists of a Schmitt trigger (7414 or
7413), a capacitor and a resistor. How can I determine the needed values
for the capacitor and resistor here?

The data sheet should have a formula, but it will probably be within
an order of magnitude of f = 1/RC.

For the chips: I know I can get the "LS" version of them at my store,
but I don't know what that means, nor which alternatives there are, nor
do I know whether it matters. Can someone please explain this to me?

I still don't know which FET exactly I will need to feed the 350mA into
a LED, but I will just ask at my local electronics store.

Thanks so far to all people which have answered my previous posts.

Glad to help!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Jim Yanik]

Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in
news:ngkno01d1e45oukt4buc8jrc8s8dk10fog@4ax.com:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:39:01 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

The idiots do not seem to realize that this war in Iraq is a war
against the entire region.

There is not a single nation over there
that wants to see the successful installation of an American style
democracy.

This is wrong;many Iranians are very unhappy with the mullahs control over
their country.

When Iraq gets stabilized and gets to vote for their own leaders,then
Iranians will see that and work to get control of their country back from
the mullahs.

This Bush administration signed a deal with Israel for some 500
"bunker busters." Also, the US just recently transferred the first of
100 F-16Is to Israel; these have the extended fuel tanks. My guess is
that, in *this* next short period of two or three years, we may see an
Israeli attack on Iran and a drastic deepening of US active
involvement in the aftermath. If we found it difficult to think of a
viable exit strategy last year, it may be even more difficult to think
about soon.

Jon

Well,the world is very lucky that Israel destroyed IRAQ's nuclear
reactor;otherwise,Saddam would have had nuclear weapons,and probably would
have used them(or given one to terrorists for use against Israel or the
US).But since Iran is using Hezbollah against Israel,they have a legit beef
with Iran,and an understandable reason to not see Iran develop a nuclear
weapon.Iran would likely give terrorists a nuclear weapon.They are unstable
enough for that to be a real,valid threat.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Jim Yanik wrote:

Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in
news:ngkno01d1e45oukt4buc8jrc8s8dk10fog@4ax.com:


On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:39:01 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:


The idiots do not seem to realize that this war in Iraq is a war
against the entire region.




There is not a single nation over there
that wants to see the successful installation of an American style
democracy.


This is wrong;many Iranians are very unhappy with the mullahs control over
their country.

Every single nation over there has a large population of discontented
citizens- that is why the people in control do not want to see an
American style democracy in Iraq- their survival is at stake and they
will stop at nothing to ensure failure of the US. The US invasion of
Iraq is therefore a war against the entire region.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:31:41 +1300, the renowned Terry Given
<my_name@ieee.org> wrote:

Paul Burridge wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:55:08 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:


Which one is that? Cannibalism/vampirism, or infant mutilation?


The latter. Hiding behind 'religious tradition' for what amounts to
patent bestiality just ain't acceptable.

Given the fact that it is clearly accepted, your statement is wrong.
Shouldnt be though

Whats really funny is the fuss made over somali immigrants and their
propensity for genital mutilation of girls - its OK for white people to
circumcise boys, but not for black people to circumcise girls - or maybe
its the lack of anaesthetic?

Cheers
Terry

In the extreme form, they excise the entire clitoris and labia minora,
cut slices off the the insides of the labia majora and then sew the
whole thing shut. Hubby or his female relatives get to open it with a
knife after she gets married, and it has to be enlarged again for
childbirth. In the bush it's done without anesthetic, and of course
complications are not uncommon.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Terry Given]

Fred Bloggs wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

Fred Bloggs wrote:



Ratch wrote:



Yeah- but you don't mention being against stealing, bullying, or
other antisocial acts because those are characteristics of your
candidate.

Then you obviously did not educate yourself on the facts, did you? Or
else you would know that is exactly what Bush is.


He/she would not be my candidate selection if they were a party to
the above.


You can take GWB and shove him up your ass BTW.


It is YOU who has a problem with him. Just about every citizen of
this planet will be affected to a certain degree by what he does.
You should wish him the best. He has a hard job. Ratch

I want to see him placed under arrest! I have seen enough of the kind of
job he does. The election has accomplished nothing productive- it has
only succeeded in transforming what was a feeling of total disgust
for Bush into a true *hatred*- those idiots in the Congress are
dreaming if they think anyone will be united as a result of the
election. You idiots seem to be overlooking the FACT that probably 55
million voters *passionately* voted to eject this administration from
office- and it was *true* passion that exceeds anything his dull
minded support is capable of- this is anything but a mandate - it is
another Bush atrocity to even suggest that word has meaning. The same
facts that gave cause to this massive uprising against Bush are still
there- the election has changed nothing!


Hey Fred, last I looked there were 265,000,000 USians or so, and only
113,000,000 voted. How many eligible voters are there? what percentage
actually voted. All the news media I have looked at prattle on about
huge turnout, but never say what percentage.

Cheers
Terry


The voting age population of US as reported by Census Bureau is 217.8M,
then on average 8.5% are ineligible due to being non-citizens or felons
making the estimate something like 200M for a turnout of 113/200=57% by
that measure.

Thanx

Terry

 

[Andrew Holme]

Frank Birbacher wrote:

Hi!

I've already posted some questions to this newsgroup. Here I want
to sum the answers up. I want you to confirm I'm doing the right
thing And there are still some questions.

Ok, to drive my 3 (maybe I expand it to 4) LEDs via pwm I want to
do the following:

I'm given 3 times 8bit of logic outputs of IOWarrior. Each of
those "packets" of 8bit is compared to a 8bit up counter. For the
counter I want to use the 74393 chip. The "less" output of each
comparator goes to a FET each of which will feed one of the three
LEDs. For the comparator I thought of chip 74684, but maybe I
cannot get it.
Are there alternatives to 74684/685?

You could use two 4-bit comparators (e.g. 74HC85) combining the outputs with
an AND gate but that would mean even more chips! You could roll your own
using a PAL/GAL/PLD e.g. 16V8, 22V10 e.t.c.

The counter will be driven by a oscillator with a constant
frequency of about 10-30kHz. The oscillator consists of a Schmitt
trigger (7414 or 7413), a capacitor and a resistor.
How can I determine the needed values for the capacitor and
resistor here?

By experiment. Aim for R>10k for HCMOS. Less for LS. Time constant ~ RC.

For the chips: I know I can get the "LS" version of them at my
store, but I don't know what that means, nor which alternatives
there are, nor do I know whether it matters. Can someone please
explain this to me?

There are several 74 families. They differ in speed, power consumption,
input/output thresholds e.t.c. LS = Low power Schottky. I suggest you use
74HC if you can get them but 74LS is perfectly OK for this application.

I still don't know which FET exactly I will need to feed the
350mA into a LED, but I will just ask at my local electronics store.

Any n-channel MOSFET designed for logic level drive that can handle a drain
current of 350mA will do. You'll be spoilt for choice.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:30:04 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:17:42 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:36:09 -0600, John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:27:13 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
If I ever went into battle I'd want someone in charge who was as
^^^^^^^^
willing to get behind his commander in chief and follow his orders as
he would expect me to get behind him and follow his.
Ah, you want a puppet on a string in charge, and be a puppet on a string
yourself too.

That's what being in the military is all about, Frank. You don't get to
^^^^^^^^^^^^
vote on whether you'll do what you're told to or not, you just do it, or
^^^^
else you don't and you accept the consequences.

Can you say doublethink, boys and girls?

POLLUTION

The meaning is clear
but not what others should hear.
Time to stir in mud.

John, give the Haiku a break, will you? It really doesn't suit you. I
see you as more polysyllabic with your put-downs. ;-}

--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On 11 Nov 2004 03:01:21 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:

A nice line from a resident of the country with the biggest balance of
trade deficit around.

A typical line from the person with the biggest brain cell deficit
around.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Terry Given wrote:

Fred Bloggs wrote:



Ratch wrote:



Yeah- but you don't mention being against stealing, bullying, or
other antisocial acts because those are characteristics of your
candidate.

Then you obviously did not educate yourself on the facts, did you? Or
else you would know that is exactly what Bush is.


He/she would not be my candidate selection if they were a party to
the above.


You can take GWB and shove him up your ass BTW.


It is YOU who has a problem with him. Just about every citizen of
this planet will be affected to a certain degree by what he does.
You should wish him the best. He has a hard job. Ratch

I want to see him placed under arrest! I have seen enough of the kind of
job he does. The election has accomplished nothing productive- it has
only succeeded in transforming what was a feeling of total disgust for
Bush into a true *hatred*- those idiots in the Congress are dreaming
if they think anyone will be united as a result of the election. You
idiots seem to be overlooking the FACT that probably 55 million voters
*passionately* voted to eject this administration from office- and it
was *true* passion that exceeds anything his dull minded support is
capable of- this is anything but a mandate - it is another Bush
atrocity to even suggest that word has meaning. The same facts that
gave cause to this massive uprising against Bush are still there- the
election has changed nothing!


Hey Fred, last I looked there were 265,000,000 USians or so, and only
113,000,000 voted. How many eligible voters are there? what percentage
actually voted. All the news media I have looked at prattle on about
huge turnout, but never say what percentage.

Cheers
Terry

The voting age population of US as reported by Census Bureau is 217.8M,
then on average 8.5% are ineligible due to being non-citizens or felons
making the estimate something like 200M for a turnout of 113/200=57% by
that measure.

 

[Jim Yanik]

Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in
news:eu6qo09bgp8ckgqe0hjq5ijcuhqnqosjeb@4ax.com:

On 6 Nov 2004 18:04:33 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:

snip
A possibility,yes.Inevitable,no.And once that nuclear threat was ended
(by Israel),
snip

You lead off by making a very slight _counter_ and then go immediately
into the scenario where exactly what I was suggesting *does* take
place and proceed on that basis. You just don't seem to realize that
every word you say here on this goes exactly *towards* my point.

Iran is a much larger,more populous country than Iraq,an entirely
different situation I believe you do not fully understand.

It's not possible that I "fully understand" such a situation. But I
certainly won't take your implication that you do, either.

...

You look like someone wrestling with yourself... and losing the
battle. I'll just say that despite all your self-inflicted struggles,
you appear to agree with the thrust of my point. We both see the same
event taking place, soon.

Thanks,
Jon

You seem to overlook the sanctions that would be applied by the UN (your
beloved UN)before any military action would occur;all you appeasers seemd
to think sanctions would have worked with Saddam,but now they won't with
Iran?

Israel doesn't WANT to have to bomb out Iran's nuclear facilities,they
would much rather prefer to have Iran cease that activity without the
application of military force.But they and the US will not stand by and
allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons that they could give (or allow to be
"stolen")to terrorists.
If sanctions and political pressures fail,then the only alternative is
military force.

Do you have any OTHER suggestions ?

How do -you- propose to solve the situation?
Truly solve it,not just sit and wait for it to happen.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:11:19 +0000, Doug Schultz wrote:

If you grease the pins before you set it in the filler you may get away with
fixing it in one move.
not sure what I would use to do this though.
Cooking spray?
like PAM?

Vaseline[0]. It's the most tenacious greasy stuff I've ever encountered.

then you could just push some JB into the hole and stick the shelf pin in.
all done except for sanding off some excess.

Could work.

Good Luck!
Rich
[0] petroleum jelly.

 

[Daniel Haude]

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:29:09 GMT,
Ratch <Watchit@Comcast.net> wrote
in Msg. <VDPid.572820$8_6.82085@attbi_s04>

Hey Ratch, I think you're having such a hard time in this argument because
so far you've failed to properly define the terms "aberrant" and "deviant"
on which you base your argument. But let me help ypu and look it up:

aberrant:
1. Deviating from the proper or expected course.
2. Deviating from what is normal; untrue to type.

deviant:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

Well, there you are. It all boils down to your personal matter of taste,
or to some very vague concepts as "accepted standards of society".

Hey, just recently I met someone who rides a monocycle to work every day
(in public!). This behavior certainly fits the above definitions of
aberrant and deviant. Does that mean that public monocycling should be
banned?

--Daniel

--
"With me is nothing wrong! And with you?" (from r.a.m.p)

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 07:25:21 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:19:55 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:01:00 -0600, John Fields wrote:
---
What drives them is the love they have for their leaders, but what
drives their leaders is just plain old greed and lust for power and
hatred for anyone who opposes their getting what they want. Kind of
like liberals; spoiled children run amuck.

Except for the fact that you have just now precisely described the
fascisti.

---
Except???

Whatever.

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:54:16 -0800, Bill Sloman wrote:
....

a thing to improve U.S. security - in fact, by encouraging disgruntled
Arabs to sign on with Al Qaeda, it has probably increased the risk of
second 11/7.

Do you guys only have ten months in your year? On this side of the pond,
people have been referring to the event as "9/11" since it took place.

Or are you talking about the takeover of convenience stores? That
wasn't Iraq - that's Bangladesh!

;^j
Rich