"Doomsday" solar flare heads for Earth?

[Anthony Fremont]

Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover wrote:

In article <L1qob.17764$4k5.4252@twister.austin.rr.com>, NOspam-
me@houston.rr.com mentioned...

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Yet another typical Harry C ad-hominem attack. What are you talking
about hackers, are you suggesting that I have committed some kind of
computer crime against you?

Speaking of losers, at least I'm not a full fledged member of the
"Crackpot" list on sci.physics. I can also proudly say that I
haven't been proven to be a liar many dozens of times on usenet,
though the Google archives show you to not be quite so fortunate.

He is also the buffoon who claimed he's holier than thou because he
has a degree in engineering. He must have got it from the U. of
Afghanistan, and his teacher was Osama Bin Lyin'.

I wouldn't be this way towards him if he could simply apologize for a
previous unprovoked ad-hominem attack and admit that he was wrong in his
claims. But since he can't seem to muster up enough integrity to be a
stand up guy and simply admit that he doesn't know everything......

 

[Baphomet]

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
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In article <L1qob.17764$4k5.4252@twister.austin.rr.com>, NOspam-
me@houston.rr.com mentioned...

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ce4e226.0310302129.37af675c@posting.google.com...
"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle
on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention
the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose
that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

Actually, power companies from Sweden to New Jersey temporarily cut
production to prepare for the possible surges.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?

It's not so much the actual flares themselves, it's the heavier
particles that do the damage when they hit the Earth 1-5 days after the
flare.

FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and
the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the
solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

You are completely out of your gourd on this one, but of course you will
never admit it.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

There were no headlines because they lucked out again.

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Yet another typical Harry C ad-hominem attack. What are you talking
about hackers, are you suggesting that I have committed some kind of
computer crime against you?

Speaking of losers, at least I'm not a full fledged member of the
"Crackpot" list on sci.physics. I can also proudly say that I haven't
been proven to be a liar many dozens of times on usenet, though the
Google archives show you to not be quite so fortunate.

He is also the buffoon who claimed he's holier than thou because he
has a degree in engineering. He must have got it from the U. of
Afghanistan, and his teacher was Osama Bin Lyin'.

Do I detect another flame war a brewin'? ;-)

 

[Harry Conover]

"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:<L1qob.17764$4k5.4252@twister.austin.rr.com>...

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ce4e226.0310302129.37af675c@posting.google.com...
"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle
on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention
the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose
that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

Actually, power companies from Sweden to New Jersey temporarily cut
production to prepare for the possible surges.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?

It's not so much the actual flares themselves, it's the heavier
particles that do the damage when they hit the Earth 1-5 days after the
flare.

FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and
the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the
solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

You are completely out of your gourd on this one, but of course you will
never admit it.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

There were no headlines because they lucked out again.

Sorry "Anthony" but good technology is a matter of defensive design,
not a matter of luck. There were no news reports describing dramatic
effects of the solar flare simply because there were no dramatic
effects to our infrastructure resulting from the solar flare, nor were
any anticipated.

The biggest news in this connection is that many ham operators were
able to exploit the resulting ionization in the upper atmosphere, and
I'm told that the aurora was quite spectacular in regions where it
could be seen.

Harry C.

 

[Harry Conover]

Michael Hofmann <westbound@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<bnt2if$15ii4j$1@ID-25863.news.uni-berlin.de>...

Harry Conover wrote:

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s.

They still do use it for transoceanic flights. As they are still not
using satcom there is no other way.

Michael

I stand corrected then. I may have been misled by the fact that most
major communication equipment firms no longer seem to be producing HF
communication suites for aviation applications. Do FAA sites still
support HF communications?

Marine electronics is, of course, quite a different situation, and
there HF SSB remains in widespread use.

Harry C.