"Doomsday" solar flare heads for Earth?

[Andre]

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

 

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

 

[Mjolinor]

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:vpvn182737jv39@corp.supernews.com...

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?


No it's Bill Gates, almost as big, certainly as damaging to society but

nowhere near as pretty.

 

[Baphomet]

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...

But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:vpvn182737jv39@corp.supernews.com...

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

My jeans are no good - is it the flares?

 

[Andre]

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message news:<vpvn182737jv39@corp.supernews.com>...

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

Unlikely - a big enough radiation surge to crash Windows would make
mincemeat of DNA .

-Andre

 

[Don Bruder]

In article <2c2cf14c.0310291145.338b2bf1@posting.google.com>,
testing_h@yahoo.com (Andre) wrote:

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:<vpvn182737jv39@corp.supernews.com>...
"Jan-Erik Soderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

Unlikely - a big enough radiation surge to crash Windows would make
mincemeat of DNA .

What are you saying?!?!?!?

The radiation of a single anti-Gates thought at 50 paces can crash
Windows, fergawdsake!

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[Andre]

Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote in message news:<bSUnb.1354$Wy2.20455@typhoon.sonic.net>...

In article <2c2cf14c.0310291145.338b2bf1@posting.google.com>,
testing_h@yahoo.com (Andre) wrote:

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:<vpvn182737jv39@corp.supernews.com>...
"Jan-Erik Soderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

Unlikely - a big enough radiation surge to crash Windows would make
mincemeat of DNA .

What are you saying?!?!?!?

The radiation of a single anti-Gates thought at 50 paces can crash
Windows, fergawdsake!

A single neutrino passing through the memory or CPU can crash Windows,
even though neutrinos do not interact (much) with matter .


-A

 

[Baphomet]

"Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:ZnUnb.1868$Mn.93565@news.xtra.co.nz...

"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
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"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...
But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Oh oh. My Windoze just crashed. Do you think it's Solaris flare?

My jeans are no good - is it the flares?

It may be the jean gnomes ;-)

 

[ForensicOke]

Peter wrote:

Anyone out there have any info of this flare creating any problems like
power failures, etc? Apparently Canada would have been hit the worst? Any
info or feedback?

Regards.


"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com...

But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

 

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <3F9FBE18.D775F097@aaa.com>, aaa@aaa.com mentioned...

But they make great northern lights !
Jan-Erik.

If you live in a northern location where they're visible. I don't
think they'll get as far south as So. Calif. Especially with the poor
visibility caused by the wildfires. During the early morning and late
afternoon, the sun looks orange like it does at sunset.

Andre wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

ATM failures? Like automatic teller machines? Well, use your credit
card. If you meant ATM as in Asynch Transfer Mode, AKA datacomm
links, well many if not most of those are over fiber, so
those shouldn't be affected.

-A

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[Harry Conover]

testing_h@yahoo.com (Andre) wrote in message news:<2c2cf14c.0310281648.5468c148@posting.google.com>...

http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Harry C.

 

[Anthony Fremont]

"Harry Conover" wrote:

Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose that
they shield the system from such effects? BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened. FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence). So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

 

[Baphomet]

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ce4e226.0310301302.658c7a19@posting.google.com...

testing_h@yahoo.com (Andre) wrote in message
news:<2c2cf14c.0310281648.5468c148@posting.google.com>...
http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Harry C.

Oh, you mean like the recent power blackout under more "normal" conditions?
;-)

 

[Harry Conover]

"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...

"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?

FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the
solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Harry C.

 

[Michael Hofmann]

Harry Conover wrote:

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s.

They still do use it for transoceanic flights. As they are still not
using satcom there is no other way.

Michael

 

[Anthony Fremont]

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ce4e226.0310302129.37af675c@posting.google.com...

"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle
on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention
the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose
that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

Actually, power companies from Sweden to New Jersey temporarily cut
production to prepare for the possible surges.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?

It's not so much the actual flares themselves, it's the heavier
particles that do the damage when they hit the Earth 1-5 days after the
flare.

FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and
the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the
solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

You are completely out of your gourd on this one, but of course you will
never admit it.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

There were no headlines because they lucked out again.

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Yet another typical Harry C ad-hominem attack. What are you talking
about hackers, are you suggesting that I have committed some kind of
computer crime against you?

Speaking of losers, at least I'm not a full fledged member of the
"Crackpot" list on sci.physics. I can also proudly say that I haven't
been proven to be a liar many dozens of times on usenet, though the
Google archives show you to not be quite so fortunate.

 

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <7ce4e226.0310301302.658c7a19@posting.google.com>,
hhc314@yahoo.com mentioned...

testing_h@yahoo.com (Andre) wrote in message news:<2c2cf14c.0310281648.5468c148@posting.google.com>...
http://tinyurl.com/ss4g

Well not quite, but one as bad as the 1859 flare could cause
widespread loss of power, system failures, ATM failures, etc etc.

-A

Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Harry C.

Anyone with a basic knowledge of electicity can see that huge induced
currents caused by natural phenomena such as lightning and geomagnetic
storms can disrupt any electric system. The operators can take some
precautions, but using lightning as an example, they're not going to
go to the extreme precaution of putting everything in a faraday
shielded cage. So the operators are going to run systems as
conservatively as they can within reasonable limits, and hope that the
effects are minimal. But that doesn't mean that nothing will happen.
After all, it has in the past. So "get a grip on yourself" and be
prepared to eat crow if a major electrical system does go down.

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[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <7ce4e226.0310302129.37af675c@posting.google.com>,
hhc314@yahoo.com mentioned...

"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?


FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the

BZZZT! You don't know what you're talking about, Harry Cockeyed.

solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Harry C.

Just another one of your ad hominem attacks. Go fly a kite. In a
thunderstorm. **PLONK**


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[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <L1qob.17764$4k5.4252@twister.austin.rr.com>, NOspam-
me@houston.rr.com mentioned...

"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ce4e226.0310302129.37af675c@posting.google.com...
"Anthony Fremont" <NOspam-me@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uHfob.17239$4k5.820@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"Harry Conover" wrote:
Andre, get a close grip on yourself, then explain how such system
failures could occur. Obviously solar flares disrupt radio
communications, but after many years of experiencing these things,
don't you think that by now major system operations have a handle
on
this periodic problem?

Given that there have been at least 43 recorded cases of satellite
damage due to solar flares including the total loss of a broadcast
satellite several years ago, it would appear not. Not to mention
the
incredible currents that can be induced in the power grid due to
compression of the Earth's magnetic field. How would you propose
that
they shield the system from such effects?

I would suggest the obvious...if it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

Actually, power companies from Sweden to New Jersey temporarily cut
production to prepare for the possible surges.

BTW, last time I looked, most
semiconductors in use were not radiation hardened.

Yes, and the the semoconductor damage resulting from solar flares is?

It's not so much the actual flares themselves, it's the heavier
particles that do the damage when they hit the Earth 1-5 days after the
flare.

FYI, HF
communications for the airlines was all but eliminated yesterday and
the
solution was to tell the pilots not to deviate from their scheduled
course (like to avoid a storm or turbulence).

Actually the airlines have not used HF communications since around the
1940s. It's a moot point, and no airline schedules were affect by the
solar flares, nor much of anything else as any educated person would
expect.

You are completely out of your gourd on this one, but of course you will
never admit it.

So perhaps you're right
after all, they've got it completely under control. ;-)

Of course they have. This is why there were no headlines today about
the terrible disruptions resulting from the solar flares.

There were no headlines because they lucked out again.

Anthony (or whatever your real name is) you have no clue.

What's next, you're going to unleash stil another of your nitwit
hacker attacks against me? Try harder, you third shift, computer
operator looser!

Yet another typical Harry C ad-hominem attack. What are you talking
about hackers, are you suggesting that I have committed some kind of
computer crime against you?

Speaking of losers, at least I'm not a full fledged member of the
"Crackpot" list on sci.physics. I can also proudly say that I haven't
been proven to be a liar many dozens of times on usenet, though the
Google archives show you to not be quite so fortunate.

He is also the buffoon who claimed he's holier than thou because he
has a degree in engineering. He must have got it from the U. of
Afghanistan, and his teacher was Osama Bin Lyin'.


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