Do we even need a fibre National Broadband Network?

[Ross Herbert]

Here is Telstra's instruction to homeowners with their Velocity FTTH service
http://www.telstra.com.au/smartcommunity/assets/smartcommunitybattery_1108.pdf

The same will apply no matter which service provider is used unless the
government changes the rules and makes the provider responsible for the battery.
Can you imagine any service provider saying they will accept this
responsibility? I think there are something like 8 million homes in Australia.
Industry and commerce can afford to do it because they do so now with their
existing fibre networks, but it won't be acceptable to homeowners as far I as I
can see.

 

[Mr.T]

"son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4c6a41fb$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Somebody has to Build and Own it.

If ProfitCom built it, it would just like the copper lines now with
respect to reselling , services and who's responsible for what.

You do realise they propose to sell it eventually? And I'll bet money now it
will be at a loss!

If the Government Built it, even ProfitCom would have to Lease
usage from the Government for what they use, and they would be
responsible to maintain it like every other company leasing it.

And changing Providers would truly become competitive for the
first time since the very first telephone rang in Australia.

The main reason the Current Broadband is so outrageously overpriced
compared to other countries is ProfitCom still owns everything and
therefore dictates the base price to other providers.

Nope, it's because we have the lowest population density in the world,
outside of the major cities. And the HUGE cost of the NBN is so a few people
in the bush can get broadband too, subsidised by city taxpayers.

You can change
service providers, one way or another ProfitCom still gets a Cut.
That's not competition.

What crap. There are two fibres down every street in my area, and THREE
independant wireless networks!!
Wasteful duplication forces up costs, just as a public, OR private monopoly
does!

MrT.

 

[Rod Speed]

Mr.T wrote

son of a bitch <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote

Somebody has to Build and Own it.

If ProfitCom built it, it would just like the copper lines now with
respect to reselling , services and who's responsible for what.

You do realise they propose to sell it eventually? And I'll bet money now it will be at a loss!

If the Government Built it, even ProfitCom would have to Lease
usage from the Government for what they use, and they would be
responsible to maintain it like every other company leasing it.

And changing Providers would truly become competitive for the
first time since the very first telephone rang in Australia.

The main reason the Current Broadband is so outrageously overpriced
compared to other countries is ProfitCom still owns everything and
therefore dictates the base price to other providers.

Nope, it's because we have the lowest population
density in the world, outside of the major cities.

Thats a pig ignorant lie.

And the HUGE cost of the NBN is so a few people in the
bush can get broadband too, subsidised by city taxpayers.

Another pig ignorant lie.

You can change service providers, one way or another ProfitCom still gets a Cut.
That's not competition.

What crap. There are two fibres down every street in my area,

Another pig ignorant lie. What is down your streets is coax, not fibre.

and THREE independant wireless networks!!

More than that, actually.

Wasteful duplication forces up costs,

But we have duplication of supermarkets, schools, petrol stations, etc etc etc anyway.

> just as a public, OR private monopoly does!

 

[Adrian Jansen]

Ross Herbert wrote:

Here is Telstra's instruction to homeowners with their Velocity FTTH service
http://www.telstra.com.au/smartcommunity/assets/smartcommunitybattery_1108.pdf

The same will apply no matter which service provider is used unless the
government changes the rules and makes the provider responsible for the battery.
Can you imagine any service provider saying they will accept this
responsibility? I think there are something like 8 million homes in Australia.
Industry and commerce can afford to do it because they do so now with their
existing fibre networks, but it won't be acceptable to homeowners as far I as I
can see.

The battery makers must be rubbing their hands with glee - another 8
million batteries to sell, plus replacements to all of them every 5
years or so.

[Joke]
Lead free ?
[/Joke]

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Regards,

Adrian Jansen adrianjansen at internode dot on dot net
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