Do thermal fuses fail from old age?

'Course the minuscule size of today's electronics and my aging
eyesight makes it a no-win game for me to try and do much
fixing of that kind of stuff those days.
I just bought an illuminated head-mount magnifier from Harbor Freight for
$5. It's surprisingly good. The optics have little distortion and no
chromatic aberration. There are four magnifications, but the lights "focus"
at only the lowest magnification.
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:48:47 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

'Course the minuscule size of today's electronics and my aging
eyesight makes it a no-win game for me to try and do much
fixing of that kind of stuff those days.

I just bought an illuminated head-mount magnifier from Harbor Freight for
$5. It's surprisingly good. The optics have little distortion and no
chromatic aberration. There are four magnifications, but the lights "focus"
at only the lowest magnification.
I don't really like the plastic head mounted magnifiers. I'm
constantly going from whatever I'm working on, to picking up tools,
soldering iron, parts, probes, etc, on the bench. I have to keep
raising and lowering the magnifier in order to switch. With an LCD
screen, everything is roughly the same distance away, so no raising or
lowering.

If I were to buy a head mounted magnifier, it will probably be a
surgical loupe.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=surgical+loupe&tbm=isch>
Lots of styles and types to choose from, all seriously expensive. I've
played with some and am rather impressed. If I can keep the working
distance constant, it's as good or better than my USB camera
microscope. Mounted on eyeglasses, they are a bit heavy, but headband
mounts are available.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
William Sommerwerck wrote:
'Course the minuscule size of today's electronics and my aging
eyesight makes it a no-win game for me to try and do much
fixing of that kind of stuff those days.

I just bought an illuminated head-mount magnifier from Harbor Freight for
$5. It's surprisingly good. The optics have little distortion and no
chromatic aberration. There are four magnifications, but the lights "focus"
at only the lowest magnification.
Those things and drugstore reading glasses are great if you happen to
have just the right interpupillary distance. I buy lab glasses from
Zenni Optical for about $35 a pair--+0.75 diopter for reading, +2.5 for
close work, coated, good frames, just the right interpupillary distance
to avoid eyestrain. Highly recommended.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
"Jeff Liebermann = Nut Case Fuckwit "
The coffee distillery is double insulated, which means it doesn't need
a ground pin on the power plug. Since a fault can affect either side
of the power line in such a symmertical arrangement, two fuses are
required.

** Horse manure.

Yep.
** Glad you agree- fuckwit.

One fuse is sufficient to break the circuit in case of current overload.

http://www.freewebs.com/valvewizard/fuses.html
Some appliances use two fuses, one for live and one for
neutral. While there is some argument against using a
neutral fuse, there is no law against it (in the UK anyway).
You can buy IEC inlet sockets with built-in fuse holders,
which greatly simplifies construction.

** Utterly irrelevant crap.


http://www.appliance411.com/faq/dryerheat.shtml
There are 2 fuses or breakers for the dryer, both must
be good in order for the dryer to function properly.
** That schem shows TWO PHASE power being used.

You fucking tenth wit.



Thermal fuses act on temperature, not current at all.

True.
** Glad you agree - fuckhead.


The max current rating given by makers is based on self heating to ensure
the fuse stays within temp rating tolerance.

The max current rating is the maximum current at which it will operate
safely without self-heating and blowing the fuse.

** There is only a few degrees of self heating at the rated current.

So to melt the material inside takes at least 5 times that current.


I found out the
hard way that it's much like the rating on a typical wire fuse. If
you run a 5A fuse, at 5 amps at room temperature, it will eventually
blow.

** Wire fuses run very hot at rated current, the wire inside may bend or
even glow in the dark - ie nothing like thermal fuses.

Same with a thermal fuse.
** Blatant LIE.

If you run it near it's rated
maximum current (usually 5A, 15A, or 30A), it will eventually get warm
enough to melt the wax and trip the fuse.
** MASSIVE BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!


With a short circuit across
the power line, the self-heating will blow the thermal fuse almost
instantly.
** Nope - it will trip the supply breaker.

With a 10 times or more overload, breakers trip in a few milliseconds.

You stupid asshole.


.... Phil
 
N_Cook wrote:
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OeGdncrMOvJ61_HSnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com...

N_Cook wrote:

Perhaps the voltage rating was lower than the required use, ie in fused
state not rated for the service voltage across the broken section so
someone
thought, I know , we'll put 2 in series ;-)


Which would do nothing, if they couldnn't handle the voltage.

Have you ever looked at the wiring in a furnace? They use multple
thermal shutdowns, for liability in the US.

so you have no visual sense for emoticons

I did too many fire restoration jobs after a pair of switches failed
and people died. I see no humor in people dying from failed and jury
rigged repairs. Laugh all you want. It fits you.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
The Daring Dufas wrote:
P.S. They often get mad when someone like me is teasing them. o_O

Some just consider the source, and ignore you.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:12:07 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Nasty cheap Chinese thermal fuses->higher rate of failure to open in a
real overtemp condition->using two in series may keep your house from
burning down, if they don't both fail the same way.
Maybe. Such guesswork would be greatly reduced if the original poster
would kindly provide the Braun model number.
<https://www.google.com/search?&q=braun+coffee+maker&tbm=isch>

If the coffee maker is of the drip type automatic variety, then there
are two heaters. The upper heater, that heats the water before it
goes through the coffee filter, and the warmer at the base, that keeps
the pot of coffee warm. Such a derrangement requires two thermal
fuses, one for each heater.

Incidentally, I had a really old Mr Coffee maker overheat and melt the
plastic case. The thermal fuse never blew. The consensus was that
water somehow invaded the Microtemp thermal fuse, and rusted
everything in place.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On 3/23/2012 5:02 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
N_Cook wrote:

Michael A. Terrell<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OeGdncrMOvJ61_HSnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com...

N_Cook wrote:

Perhaps the voltage rating was lower than the required use, ie in fused
state not rated for the service voltage across the broken section so
someone
thought, I know , we'll put 2 in series ;-)


Which would do nothing, if they couldnn't handle the voltage.

Have you ever looked at the wiring in a furnace? They use multple
thermal shutdowns, for liability in the US.

so you have no visual sense for emoticons


I did too many fire restoration jobs after a pair of switches failed
and people died. I see no humor in people dying from failed and jury
rigged repairs. Laugh all you want. It fits you.
I repaired a furnace for one of my favorite customers, a little old lady
about 90 who had her children and grandchildren staying with her
and she had no heat. I found that water flooding the basement had
shorted out the control board for her furnace but some moron had
bypassed the roll-out safety switch on the furnace because another
safety wasn't working. Needless to say, I had to replace a whole section
of the wiring harness because the flames blew back from the burners
destroying the wiring. It was a lucky break that the burned wiring
shorted out killing the furnace or I fear the house would have caught
fire with all those folks in there. I wish I could get my hands around
the neck of the asshole who decided it was a good idea to bypass the
safety switches on that furnace. o_O

TDD
 
The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 3/23/2012 5:02 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

N_Cook wrote:

Michael A. Terrell<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OeGdncrMOvJ61_HSnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com...

N_Cook wrote:

Perhaps the voltage rating was lower than the required use, ie in fused
state not rated for the service voltage across the broken section so
someone
thought, I know , we'll put 2 in series ;-)


Which would do nothing, if they couldnn't handle the voltage.

Have you ever looked at the wiring in a furnace? They use multple
thermal shutdowns, for liability in the US.

so you have no visual sense for emoticons


I did too many fire restoration jobs after a pair of switches failed
and people died. I see no humor in people dying from failed and jury
rigged repairs. Laugh all you want. It fits you.


I repaired a furnace for one of my favorite customers, a little old lady
about 90 who had her children and grandchildren staying with her
and she had no heat. I found that water flooding the basement had
shorted out the control board for her furnace but some moron had
bypassed the roll-out safety switch on the furnace because another
safety wasn't working. Needless to say, I had to replace a whole section
of the wiring harness because the flames blew back from the burners
destroying the wiring. It was a lucky break that the burned wiring
shorted out killing the furnace or I fear the house would have caught
fire with all those folks in there. I wish I could get my hands around
the neck of the asshole who decided it was a good idea to bypass the
safety switches on that furnace. o_O

I used to subcontract electronic repair for a fire restoration
company. Most of their jobs were to repair the buildings so the heirs
could sell them. They wanted nothing to do with the place their parent
or parents died. More than one death was caused by an incompetent
repair. A thermal overload failed? No big deal: "he terminals on the
wires will push together, so all I need is some tape and I'll charge the
suckers a couple hundred dollars." :(

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:unjpm79is43h64it96qhvgdn6kkptpunc3@4ax.com:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:30:18 -0400, jeff_wisnia
jwisniaDumpThisPart@conversent.net> wrote:

'Course the current miniscule size of todays electronics and my aging
eyesight makes it a no-win game for me to try and do much fixing of that
kind of stuff those days.

I use a microscope camera:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260969643003> $30
I have it plugged into a junk computah and LCD display. The original
plan was to attach it to a wrist strap, to make it easier for me to
see what I'm doing while soldering, but that didn't work. So, I now
use it on a plastic camera tripod, which works well. Saving the JPG's
has been handy for recording my work.

Unfortunately, I still have to wear my reading glasses in order to see
the LCD display. You can also use some cell phone cameras as a
microscope, if they have auto-focus (iPhone 3GS, most Droids, etc).
I have reading glasses(2.75X) and also have a separate binocular magnifier
of 2.5X.

you can buy "clip-on" binocular magnifiers for pretty low cost on Ebay,I
got mine for $5 USD,plus shipping. they either clip on your regular
glasses,or clip on their own eyeglass frame. They are easier to see around
than the hobby binoc flip-up magnifiers,when you don't need close up
vision,you don't have to move them out of the way.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
On 3/23/2012 7:06 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 3/23/2012 5:02 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

N_Cook wrote:

Michael A. Terrell<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OeGdncrMOvJ61_HSnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com...

N_Cook wrote:

Perhaps the voltage rating was lower than the required use, ie in fused
state not rated for the service voltage across the broken section so
someone
thought, I know , we'll put 2 in series ;-)


Which would do nothing, if they couldnn't handle the voltage.

Have you ever looked at the wiring in a furnace? They use multple
thermal shutdowns, for liability in the US.

so you have no visual sense for emoticons


I did too many fire restoration jobs after a pair of switches failed
and people died. I see no humor in people dying from failed and jury
rigged repairs. Laugh all you want. It fits you.


I repaired a furnace for one of my favorite customers, a little old lady
about 90 who had her children and grandchildren staying with her
and she had no heat. I found that water flooding the basement had
shorted out the control board for her furnace but some moron had
bypassed the roll-out safety switch on the furnace because another
safety wasn't working. Needless to say, I had to replace a whole section
of the wiring harness because the flames blew back from the burners
destroying the wiring. It was a lucky break that the burned wiring
shorted out killing the furnace or I fear the house would have caught
fire with all those folks in there. I wish I could get my hands around
the neck of the asshole who decided it was a good idea to bypass the
safety switches on that furnace. o_O


I used to subcontract electronic repair for a fire restoration
company. Most of their jobs were to repair the buildings so the heirs
could sell them. They wanted nothing to do with the place their parent
or parents died. More than one death was caused by an incompetent
repair. A thermal overload failed? No big deal: "he terminals on the
wires will push together, so all I need is some tape and I'll charge the
suckers a couple hundred dollars." :(
That's basically what the idiot did and I come across that sort of thing
all the time across the many fields I work in. My friend GB
who owned the mechanical company I often helped him with was very
much like me in that we couldn't live with ourselves if we were to
cheat folks. GB passed away last fall so I'm not doing much in the
way of residential HVAC work but there is enough commercial work to
keep me occupied along with all the other stuff. I see incompetent
work and dangerous shortcuts quite often and I make sure the customer
is aware of how dangerous that sort of thing is and I would be
absolutely devastated if someone were harmed because of something I
did, especially if it was a child. If you've ever come across the
website "There, I Fixed It" and seen some of the insane shortcuts and
godawful dangerous things people do you may laugh like I do because I've
actually seen people do the same crazy things. o_O

TDD
 
The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 3/23/2012 7:06 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

I repaired a furnace for one of my favorite customers, a little old lady
about 90 who had her children and grandchildren staying with her
and she had no heat. I found that water flooding the basement had
shorted out the control board for her furnace but some moron had
bypassed the roll-out safety switch on the furnace because another
safety wasn't working. Needless to say, I had to replace a whole section
of the wiring harness because the flames blew back from the burners
destroying the wiring. It was a lucky break that the burned wiring
shorted out killing the furnace or I fear the house would have caught
fire with all those folks in there. I wish I could get my hands around
the neck of the asshole who decided it was a good idea to bypass the
safety switches on that furnace. o_O


I used to subcontract electronic repair for a fire restoration
company. Most of their jobs were to repair the buildings so the heirs
could sell them. They wanted nothing to do with the place their parent
or parents died. More than one death was caused by an incompetent
repair. A thermal overload failed? No big deal: "he terminals on the
wires will push together, so all I need is some tape and I'll charge the
suckers a couple hundred dollars." :(

That's basically what the idiot did and I come across that sort of thing
all the time across the many fields I work in. My friend GB
who owned the mechanical company I often helped him with was very
much like me in that we couldn't live with ourselves if we were to
cheat folks. GB passed away last fall so I'm not doing much in the
way of residential HVAC work but there is enough commercial work to
keep me occupied along with all the other stuff. I see incompetent
work and dangerous shortcuts quite often and I make sure the customer
is aware of how dangerous that sort of thing is and I would be
absolutely devastated if someone were harmed because of something I
did, especially if it was a child. If you've ever come across the
website "There, I Fixed It" and seen some of the insane shortcuts and
godawful dangerous things people do you may laugh like I do because I've
actually seen people do the same crazy things. o_O

Ever looked at "White Trash Repairs"? Some dangerous idiots on that
site like the guy who blows up microwave ovens, or the one making
fireworks in his house. :(


The losers who do some electrical work should have to live in the
houses they wire.

I installed the computer networking, fire alarms and TV antenna
systems at a new college campus years ago. The HVAC crew was the
biggest idiot's I've ever had the misfortune to work around. The
blueprints showed where every air handler was supposed to go, so that
the ducting would have plenty of clearance. They not only set them in
the wrong places, one was backwards, with their wiring hanging from the
20 foot ceilings. the gofer for the general contractor kept running
around pulling the fire boxes while I was trying to test the prewire,
until I caught him in the act. I followed him to his bosses office and
read him the riot act. Then I promised to kick his sorry ass all the
way across the campus if anyone pulled another box. he told me I
couldn't do it, but his boss said that he would be a fool to try, and
find out for sure. :)

When it was time for the state inspector & his punch list he said the
system failed, because the glass break rods were missing. I told him
they would be installed, but only after the building was accepted and
that the weren't installed due to over 100 attempts to cause a false
alarm.

That was the last time I did any sub work for that electrical
contractor.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
On 3/23/2012 9:36 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 3/23/2012 7:06 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

I repaired a furnace for one of my favorite customers, a little old lady
about 90 who had her children and grandchildren staying with her
and she had no heat. I found that water flooding the basement had
shorted out the control board for her furnace but some moron had
bypassed the roll-out safety switch on the furnace because another
safety wasn't working. Needless to say, I had to replace a whole section
of the wiring harness because the flames blew back from the burners
destroying the wiring. It was a lucky break that the burned wiring
shorted out killing the furnace or I fear the house would have caught
fire with all those folks in there. I wish I could get my hands around
the neck of the asshole who decided it was a good idea to bypass the
safety switches on that furnace. o_O


I used to subcontract electronic repair for a fire restoration
company. Most of their jobs were to repair the buildings so the heirs
could sell them. They wanted nothing to do with the place their parent
or parents died. More than one death was caused by an incompetent
repair. A thermal overload failed? No big deal: "he terminals on the
wires will push together, so all I need is some tape and I'll charge the
suckers a couple hundred dollars." :(

That's basically what the idiot did and I come across that sort of thing
all the time across the many fields I work in. My friend GB
who owned the mechanical company I often helped him with was very
much like me in that we couldn't live with ourselves if we were to
cheat folks. GB passed away last fall so I'm not doing much in the
way of residential HVAC work but there is enough commercial work to
keep me occupied along with all the other stuff. I see incompetent
work and dangerous shortcuts quite often and I make sure the customer
is aware of how dangerous that sort of thing is and I would be
absolutely devastated if someone were harmed because of something I
did, especially if it was a child. If you've ever come across the
website "There, I Fixed It" and seen some of the insane shortcuts and
godawful dangerous things people do you may laugh like I do because I've
actually seen people do the same crazy things. o_O


Ever looked at "White Trash Repairs"? Some dangerous idiots on that
site like the guy who blows up microwave ovens, or the one making
fireworks in his house. :(


The losers who do some electrical work should have to live in the
houses they wire.

I installed the computer networking, fire alarms and TV antenna
systems at a new college campus years ago. The HVAC crew was the
biggest idiot's I've ever had the misfortune to work around. The
blueprints showed where every air handler was supposed to go, so that
the ducting would have plenty of clearance. They not only set them in
the wrong places, one was backwards, with their wiring hanging from the
20 foot ceilings. the gofer for the general contractor kept running
around pulling the fire boxes while I was trying to test the prewire,
until I caught him in the act. I followed him to his bosses office and
read him the riot act. Then I promised to kick his sorry ass all the
way across the campus if anyone pulled another box. he told me I
couldn't do it, but his boss said that he would be a fool to try, and
find out for sure. :)

When it was time for the state inspector& his punch list he said the
system failed, because the glass break rods were missing. I told him
they would be installed, but only after the building was accepted and
that the weren't installed due to over 100 attempts to cause a false
alarm.

That was the last time I did any sub work for that electrical
contractor.
I will no longer tolerate sabotage or someone fooling around with my
work on a construction project. I've decided the best thing to do is
call the police and file a report along with a dollar value of the
damage based on my highest hourly rate. I will definitely have one of
perpetrators jailed on felony charges if the dollar amount is enough.
The police reports come in handy for a lawsuit against a contractor
with a "Screw You!" attitude.

I was doing some control work with an engineer friend of mine I had met
when we worked on a construction project for The Star Wars "SDI" program
back in the 80's and we were installing a large HVAC control system for
a new school in the 90's and on that job, one of the young don't give a
damn electricians decided to cut and pull our control wire out of a roof
penetration conduit so he could use it. The conduit was 40' in the air
and luckily one of the other electricians told us before the ceiling was
installed. The kid's excuse for ripping out our wire was that it was in
his way and when asked why he didn't tell us so we could handle the
problem was the fact that we weren't there that day. I don't know if
personal civilian Tasers were available at the time but I would have
liked to have owned one. ^_^

P.S. Some day I'll have to tell you of my adventures the with the Halon
fire suppression system I installed in Mission Control at the missile
range. o_O

TDD
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:36:09 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Ever looked at "White Trash Repairs"?
<http://thereifixedit.failblog.org>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Maybe their thermal fuses opened?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:QrSdnXQ6WIYWbvHSnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...

The Daring Dufas wrote:
P.S. They often get mad when someone like me is teasing them. o_O

Some just consider the source, and ignore you.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
Not only thermal fuses, as you've found. I've also seen compressor thermal
overloads hanging loose in the air. With the compressor cooking hot.

One other one I saw, was a dehumidifier (commercial model, mounted in a
cellar) that would regularly freeze over. I had a look, and find the freeze
sensor hanging in the air, rather than clipped to the (frozen) suction line.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FrednQk4e6iqjfDSnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@earthlink.com...

I used to subcontract electronic repair for a fire restoration
company. Most of their jobs were to repair the buildings so the heirs
could sell them. They wanted nothing to do with the place their parent
or parents died. More than one death was caused by an incompetent
repair. A thermal overload failed? No big deal: "he terminals on the
wires will push together, so all I need is some tape and I'll charge the
suckers a couple hundred dollars." :(

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
Reminds me of the one time I was helping extend some HVAC duct work. The
other fellow had spent all day cutting a rectangle shaped hole in a
cinderblock wall. We came back the next day, the cable TV installer had run
a wire diagonally through our hard won duct hole. I suggested taking the
wire out with diags.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" <the-daring-dufas@stinky.net> wrote in message
news:jkjom7$7c6$1@dont-email.me...


I was doing some control work with an engineer friend of mine I had met
when we worked on a construction project for The Star Wars "SDI" program
back in the 80's and we were installing a large HVAC control system for
a new school in the 90's and on that job, one of the young don't give a
damn electricians decided to cut and pull our control wire out of a roof
penetration conduit so he could use it. The conduit was 40' in the air
and luckily one of the other electricians told us before the ceiling was
installed. The kid's excuse for ripping out our wire was that it was in
his way and when asked why he didn't tell us so we could handle the
problem was the fact that we weren't there that day. I don't know if
personal civilian Tasers were available at the time but I would have
liked to have owned one. ^_^

TDD
 
I'd like to hear. I've learned a litle about these, but I'm sure your first
hand experience will be interesting.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" <the-daring-dufas@stinky.net> wrote in message
news:jkjom7$7c6$1@dont-email.me...

P.S. Some day I'll have to tell you of my adventures the with the Halon
fire suppression system I installed in Mission Control at the missile
range. o_O

TDD
 
I've seen some moments when people weren't working together. But sabotage?
It's a shame that people make life dificult for each other, on purpose.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" <the-daring-dufas@stinky.net> wrote in message
news:jkjom7$7c6$1@dont-email.me...


I will no longer tolerate sabotage or someone fooling around with my
work on a construction project. I've decided the best thing to do is
call the police and file a report along with a dollar value of the
damage based on my highest hourly rate. I will definitely have one of
perpetrators jailed on felony charges if the dollar amount is enough.
The police reports come in handy for a lawsuit against a contractor
with a "Screw You!" attitude.

TDD
 
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