Digital Radio

On 12-December-2014 2:45 PM, atec77 wrote:

On 12/12/2014 8:32 AM, felix_unger wrote:
On 12-December-2014 7:47 AM, atec77 wrote:

Digital simply doesn't work.

but analogue transmission can't supply the high resolutions that
digital
can afaik

how much resolution does a "roger that "demand ?

I was referring to TV. you can't get 1080p with analogue transmisson

much of the time neither does ""digital""

that's true. but I notice that more broadcasts are coming in 1080i, and
I feed thru an amp which upscales to 1080p, so everything I watch is in
1080p


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On 12-December-2014 10:13 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Can I get digital radio stations on my mobile phone? TIA.,

Don' know,I can't get digital radio with a digital radio.


It's a bit temperamental. Disappointing really.
No, it is where I live,dab coverage is limited to central
population areas.

You were able to get an AM/FM hand held radio for $20, now a
digital is $100+

a lot less on eBay, from about $30 from overseas sellers


If the digital radio reception is as bad as digital TV, we are
going backwards at a great rate of knots.

If the digital tv signal drops below a certain level, you either
get pixilation or you get nothing, unlike analogue where you will
still get a (bad) picture, so I'm guessing that with a digital car
radio it will keep cutting out if the signal level drops too low,

Guess again, it doesn’t.

so what happens then when the signal level drops?

It doesn’t drop enough to be a problem.

when driving around surely the digital signal level would rise and
fall, like the analogue signal does

Yes, but just like you don’t get dropouts with normal analog
radio, you don’t have a problem with digital radio either.

you don't get sudden signal loss with analog, just a fading or weak
signal, that will eventually 'drop out', but not like going from normal
reception to nothing, as digital tv can

which will be extremely frustrating

Which might just be why it doesn’t.

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right next to
an international airport, is to have cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,
but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense. it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of
providing the pay tv channels as well

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope. poor digital reception area

Digital simply doesn't work.

but analogue transmission can't supply the high resolutions that
digital can afaik

Or the multiple streams either.

What happened to technology progress in this area?

the Labor government has promised to upgrade police (and SES too I
think) communications in country areas to digital, but the cops are
saying it won't work well due to the 'line of sight' reception that
digital requires.

Bullshit it does.

hills and bushland will prevent that, they're saying

They don’t have a fucking clue.

so you know better what they need/want than they do

Yep, been doing it since before they were even born
and a mate of mine installed all that stuff in this area.
And another mate of mine runs the local SES too.
And another one did that stuff for the cops before
he eventually left the cops and joined the spooks.

The line of sight claim is pure pig ignorant silly shit.


--
rgds,

Pete
-------
It's not about Islam!.. http://ausnet.info/pics/islam.png
Islam is a religion of peace!.. http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://pamelageller.com/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
"The right to free speech includes the right to offend"
"ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"
-Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA
 
On 12-December-2014 2:47 PM, atec77 wrote:

On 12/12/2014 8:30 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix_unger" <me@nothere.biz> wrote in message

Guess again, it doesn’t.

which will be extremely frustrating

Which might just be why it doesn’t.


hills and bushland will prevent that, they're saying

They don’t have a fucking clue.
certainly you don't , oh and many places/sites digital wont cut it

exactly. I think Rod is still living with last century technology

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
It's not about Islam!.. http://ausnet.info/pics/islam.png
Islam is a religion of peace!.. http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://pamelageller.com/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
"The right to free speech includes the right to offend"
"ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"
-Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA
 
On 12-December-2014 10:04 AM, Pete wrote:
a (bad) picture, so I'm guessing that with a digital car radio it will
keep cutting out if the signal level drops too low, which will be
extremely frustrating

I have digital radio installed in my car, and it seems to work fine
most of the time, much better than (UHF translator) digital TV at my
home, which is in the foothills of the Dandenongs in Melbourne).

There are one or two areas in my suburb where the digital radio signal
disappears, and it doesn't work in the toll road tunnels, but on the
whole, it's better than I expected.

that's good to hear then


--
rgds,

Pete
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It's not about Islam!.. http://ausnet.info/pics/islam.png
Islam is a religion of peace!.. http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://pamelageller.com/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
"The right to free speech includes the right to offend"
"ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"
-Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA
 
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Can I get digital radio stations on my mobile phone? TIA.,

Don' know,I can't get digital radio with a digital radio.


It's a bit temperamental. Disappointing really.
No, it is where I live,dab coverage is limited to central population
areas.

You were able to get an AM/FM hand held radio for $20, now a digital
is $100+

a lot less on eBay, from about $30 from overseas sellers


If the digital radio reception is as bad as digital TV, we are going
backwards at a great rate of knots.

If the digital tv signal drops below a certain level, you either get
pixilation or you get nothing, unlike analogue where you will still
get a (bad) picture, so I'm guessing that with a digital car radio it
will keep cutting out if the signal level drops too low,

Guess again, it doesn’t.

so what happens then when the signal level drops?

It doesn’t drop enough to be a problem.

when driving around surely the digital signal level would rise and fall,
like the analogue signal does

Yes, but just like you don’t get dropouts with normal analog
radio, you don’t have a problem with digital radio either.

you don't get sudden signal loss with analog, just a fading or weak
signal, that will eventually 'drop out', but not like going from normal
reception to nothing, as digital tv can

Digital doesn’t normally do that, it normally sees some
dropouts rather than just all or nothing at all forever.

which will be extremely frustrating

Which might just be why it doesn’t.

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right next to an
international airport, is to have cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing the pay
tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

> poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

Digital simply doesn't work.

but analogue transmission can't supply the high resolutions that
digital can afaik

Or the multiple streams either.

What happened to technology progress in this area?

the Labor government has promised to upgrade police (and SES too I
think) communications in country areas to digital, but the cops are
saying it won't work well due to the 'line of sight' reception that
digital requires.

Bullshit it does.

hills and bushland will prevent that, they're saying

They don’t have a fucking clue.

so you know better what they need/want than they do

Yep, been doing it since before they were even born
and a mate of mine installed all that stuff in this area.
And another mate of mine runs the local SES too.
And another one did that stuff for the cops before
he eventually left the cops and joined the spooks.

The line of sight claim is pure pig ignorant silly shit.
 
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On 12-December-2014 2:47 PM, atec77 wrote:

On 12/12/2014 8:30 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix_unger" <me@nothere.biz> wrote in message

Guess again, it doesn’t.

which will be extremely frustrating

Which might just be why it doesn’t.


hills and bushland will prevent that, they're saying

They don’t have a fucking clue.
certainly you don't , oh and many places/sites digital wont cut it

exactly.

Wrong.

> I think Rod is still living with last century technology

You're wrong, as always.
 
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Can I get digital radio stations on my mobile phone? TIA.,

Don' know,I can't get digital radio with a digital radio.


It's a bit temperamental. Disappointing really.
No, it is where I live,dab coverage is limited to central
population areas.

You were able to get an AM/FM hand held radio for $20, now a digital
is $100+

a lot less on eBay, from about $30 from overseas sellers


If the digital radio reception is as bad as digital TV, we are going
backwards at a great rate of knots.

If the digital tv signal drops below a certain level, you either get
pixilation or you get nothing, unlike analogue where you will still
get a (bad) picture, so I'm guessing that with a digital car radio it
will keep cutting out if the signal level drops too low,

Guess again, it doesn’t.

so what happens then when the signal level drops?

It doesn’t drop enough to be a problem.

when driving around surely the digital signal level would rise and
fall, like the analogue signal does

Yes, but just like you don’t get dropouts with normal analog
radio, you don’t have a problem with digital radio either.

you don't get sudden signal loss with analog, just a fading or weak
signal, that will eventually 'drop out', but not like going from normal
reception to nothing, as digital tv can

Digital doesn’t normally do that, it normally sees some
dropouts rather than just all or nothing at all forever.

The last 10 mins of the cricket today was audio pops and large pixelated
blocks.

snipped
 
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On 12-December-2014 2:47 PM, atec77 wrote:

clueless about the realities woddles
googling wiki wont save you so wht qualification do you have to make
so many fallacious claims apart from being pig ignorant
 
On 11/12/2014 8:17 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Can I get digital radio stations on my mobile phone? TIA.,

Don' know,I can't get digital radio with a digital radio.


It's a bit temperamental. Disappointing really.
No, it is where I live,dab coverage is limited to central population
areas.

You were able to get an AM/FM hand held radio for $20, now a digital is
$100+

If the digital radio reception is as bad as digital TV, we are going
backwards at a great rate of knots.

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right next to an
international airport, is to have cable TV.
Digital simply doesn't work.

What happened to technology progress in this area?

Cheers Don...

Things in OZ seem to be lagging behind the rest of the world...
including the fact that you poor bastards elected the Mad Monk!!!!
I live in Germany, where terrestrial TV is virtually non-existent - the
few broadcasters that are left only use SD digital, nobody is
transmitting terrestrial HD.

That is because nearly all of the population has cable or satellite TV
access. And it is cheap, only a fraction of what you poor suckers in
Australia are forced to pay. I get 50 digital channels (10 in HD) for
about $2 per month (they also send about 30 channels in analogue format
down the cable for the fossils that haven't bought a digital TV).
And the Internet is also MUCH cheaper than in OZ - you can get 50 to
100Mb per second plans with unlimited phone calls for less than
$20/month.(With NO download limit).

So, get off your arse and demand a better deal for all Australians!
 
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So, get off your arse and demand a better deal for all Australians!

Bugger that, I'm off to learn German...

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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine,
right next to an international airport, is to have cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing the
pay tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

you had better go and tell all the places selling fringe area antennas,
signal amplifiers, signal level meters, etc., that they're not needed
then cos there's no such thing as poor digital reception anywhere!




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rgds,

Pete
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Islam is a religion of peace!.. http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://pamelageller.com/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
"The right to free speech includes the right to offend"
"ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"
-Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA
 
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So, get off your arse and demand a better deal for all Australians!

Bugger that, I'm off to learn German...

Only problem Angela jerkal is worse than our pollies...
 
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Can I get digital radio stations on my mobile phone? TIA.,

Don' know,I can't get digital radio with a digital radio.


It's a bit temperamental. Disappointing really.
No, it is where I live,dab coverage is limited to central
population areas.

You were able to get an AM/FM hand held radio for $20, now a
digital is $100+

a lot less on eBay, from about $30 from overseas sellers


If the digital radio reception is as bad as digital TV, we are
going backwards at a great rate of knots.

If the digital tv signal drops below a certain level, you either get
pixilation or you get nothing, unlike analogue where you will still
get a (bad) picture, so I'm guessing that with a digital car radio
it will keep cutting out if the signal level drops too low,

Guess again, it doesn’t.

so what happens then when the signal level drops?

It doesn’t drop enough to be a problem.

when driving around surely the digital signal level would rise and
fall, like the analogue signal does

Yes, but just like you don’t get dropouts with normal analog
radio, you don’t have a problem with digital radio either.

you don't get sudden signal loss with analog, just a fading or weak
signal, that will eventually 'drop out', but not like going from normal
reception to nothing, as digital tv can

Digital doesn’t normally do that, it normally sees some
dropouts rather than just all or nothing at all forever.

The last 10 mins of the cricket today was audio pops and large pixelated
blocks.

That’s what I said in different words.
 
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right
next to an international airport, is to have cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing the pay
tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

you had better go and tell all the places selling fringe area antennas,
signal amplifiers, signal level meters, etc., that they're not needed then
cos there's no such thing as poor digital reception anywhere!

I never ever said anything even remotely like that.

And in fact you can often use an indoor antenna with digital TV
where you had to have and external antenna with analog TV.
 
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine,
right next to an international airport, is to have
cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing
the pay tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

you had better go and tell all the places selling fringe area
antennas, signal amplifiers, signal level meters, etc., that they're
not needed then cos there's no such thing as poor digital reception
anywhere!

I never ever said anything even remotely like that.

you've been saying throughout this whole thread that there's no problems
with digital tv reception, and ppl don't get cable tv to avoid them!
maybe you need new glasses??

And in fact you can often use an indoor antenna with digital TV
where you had to have and external antenna with analog TV.

doesn't mean that there aren't places where digital tv reception is
problamatical


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Pete
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Islam is a religion of peace!.. http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://pamelageller.com/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
"The right to free speech includes the right to offend"
"ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"
-Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA
 
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On 12-December-2014 10:13 AM, Rod Speed wrote:



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On 12-December-2014 9:30 AM, Rod Speed wrote:



"felix_unger" <me@nothere.biz> wrote in message
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right
next to an international airport, is to have cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing the
pay tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

you had better go and tell all the places selling fringe area antennas,
signal amplifiers, signal level meters, etc., that they're not needed
then cos there's no such thing as poor digital reception anywhere!

I never ever said anything even remotely like that.

you've been saying throughout this whole thread that there's no problems
with digital tv reception,

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying
thru your teeth, as you always do when your nose
has been rubbed in your terminal stupiditys.

> and ppl don't get cable tv to avoid them!

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying
thru your teeth, as you always do when your nose
has been rubbed in your terminal stupiditys.

> maybe you need new glasses??

No maybe about you needing to retake bullshitting 101.

And in fact you can often use an indoor antenna with digital TV
where you had to have and external antenna with analog TV.

doesn't mean that there aren't places where digital tv reception is
problamatical

No one ever said there weren't fuckwit.
 
On 13/12/2014 12:25 AM, SG1 wrote:
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
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In aus.electronics BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com> wrote:

So, get off your arse and demand a better deal for all Australians!

Bugger that, I'm off to learn German...

Only problem Angela jerkal is worse than our pollies...

You don't get anything worse than the Mad Monk!
When phony Tony adds a republic choice to his belated aboriginal
referendum, he might gain some credibility. But he's just a pommie
arselicker (he was BORN in England!), so there is no hope of him
standing up for an independent Australia! He's a brain-dead monarchist
happy to keep OZ as a colony with the queen in charge.
Don't knock dear Angela, at least she has a sense of national pride and
isn't committed to licking pommy arseholes forever like phony Tony!
 
"BuckyBalls" <"The Pres"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 13/12/2014 12:25 AM, SG1 wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:m6fn0s$uf6$1@speranza.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com> wrote:

So, get off your arse and demand a better deal for all Australians!

Bugger that, I'm off to learn German...

Only problem Angela jerkal is worse than our pollies...

You don't get anything worse than the Mad Monk!
When phony Tony adds a republic choice to his belated aboriginal
referendum, he might gain some credibility. But he's just a pommie
arselicker (he was BORN in England!), so there is no hope of him standing
up for an independent Australia! He's a brain-dead monarchist happy to
keep OZ as a colony with the queen in charge.
Don't knock dear Angela, at least she has a sense of national pride and
isn't committed to licking pommy arseholes forever like phony Tony!

Rather a mad monk than a sour kraut...

 
On 13-December-2014 3:05 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
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On 13-December-2014 11:16 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 12-December-2014 7:40 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 12-December-2014 10:13 AM, Rod Speed wrote:



"felix_unger" <me@nothere.biz> wrote in message
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On 12-December-2014 9:30 AM, Rod Speed wrote:



"felix_unger" <me@nothere.biz> wrote in message
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On 12-December-2014 6:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 11/12/2014 11:35 PM, F Murtz wrote:
McAvity wrote:
On 11-Dec-14 3:41 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine,
right next to an international airport, is to have
cable TV.

that seems to be a common thing

Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

I guess you don't have much experience with digital tv
then.

Guess again. We turned off our analog TV well before you
lot did and those who previously had a problem getting an
adequate analog TV signal because they were behind a local
hill in the shadow from the TV transmitters found that they
now get a much better TV service than they had before.

so you base your opinion on just your own experience at one
location,

Nope. I have had a number of people say that they
have ended up with a MUCH better result than with
analog TV, including at least one who commented
in usenet about that.

but I'm talking about various locations throughout the Melbourne
metropolitan area

It isnt that common to get that result.

lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception
easily.

Bullshit.

nonsense.

Fraid so on your lots of claim.

it's a popular solution that also has the advantage of providing
the pay tv channels as well

And fuck all need to go that route.

I recall someone who called his digital STB 'The Pixilator'

Just a fucked STB.

nope.

Yep.

poor digital reception area

Bullshit.

you had better go and tell all the places selling fringe area
antennas, signal amplifiers, signal level meters, etc., that
they're not needed then cos there's no such thing as poor digital
reception anywhere!

I never ever said anything even remotely like that.

you've been saying throughout this whole thread that there's no
problems with digital tv reception,

Everyone can see for themselves

they can indeed see what you have tried to claim there aren't problems
with digital tv reception

FU: > poor digital reception area

RS: Bullshit.

------------------

atec77: >> certainly you don't , oh and many places/sites digital wont
cut it

FU: > exactly.

RS: Wrong.

------------------

DonMcK: > Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right
next to an international airport, is to have cable TV. Digital simply
doesn't work.

RS: That isnt the case with digital TV anywhere else much.

DonMcK: > What happened to technology progress in this area?

RS: Its working fine.

----------------

RS: That isnt the case with digital TV anywhere else much.

FU: > you're kidding, right?

RS: Nope.


and ppl don't get cable tv to avoid them!

Everyone can see for themselves

yes, everyone can see that you have you disagreed that ppl get cable tv
to avoid digital reception problems


Don McK: >> Only way I can get good reception TV in Tullamarine, right
next to an international airport, is to have cable TV. Digital simply
doesn't work.

FU: > that seems to be a common thing

RS: Nope, very uncommon indeed actually.

-----------------

FU: > lots of ppl have pay tv just so they can get good reception easily.

RS: Bullshit.

-----------------


maybe you need new glasses??

No maybe about you needing to retake bullshitting 101.

most ppl would know by now I think that you just want to be argumentative

And in fact you can often use an indoor antenna with digital TV
where you had to have and external antenna with analog TV.

doesn't mean that there aren't places where digital tv reception is
problamatical

No one ever said there weren't fuckwit.

see above examples
 

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