Digikey doth truly rule

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Tim Shoppa

Guest
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.
 
"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
news:1108996147.426032.37080@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!
Have a look at the Farnell and RS websites (UK):

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/home/homepage.jsp

http://rswwww.com

I prefer them to DigiKey.

Leon
 
Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

Hi,

I agree entirely about DigiKey. However, when I want to order just a
few parts (rather than dozens at a time), Mouser has a much better price
for small quantities. Also, they will ship via 1st class mail - saving
on shipping costs.

So I use the search on DigiKey, check the price, then search by the
exact part number on Mouser to see if the price is much lower.

--
Luhan Monat (luhanis 'at' yahoo 'dot' com)
"The future is not what it used to be..."
http://members.cox.net/berniekm
 
Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording.
Yes. For this, they might benefit from hiring a person with some real
electronics knowledge, who might be able to standardize the terms used
in the database, and thus would have to translate any non-standard
compliant terminology from their vendors into the terms used in the
database. That would make even the semis consistent.



Good day!

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Principal Laser/Optical Technologist
Sandia National Laboratories CA USA
crcarle@sandia.gov -- NOTE: Remove "BOGUS" from email address to reply.
 
"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
news:1109013562.825699.225170@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

So I use the search on DigiKey,
check the price, then search by
the exact part number on
Mouser to see if the price is
much lower.

I'd feel guilty doing that, but I cannot fault you for being thrifty
:)
Why feel guilty for getting competitive bids? It's standard practice.
 
Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

For those who joined the hobby after the early 70's let me point out
that DigiKey's name comes from an electronic digital keyer that the
company sold via ad's in QST. It was a small circuit board (about
2"x2") using RTL (IIRC) Ic's. After a few years the company transformed
from ham radio stuff to a part's mail order biz. Digikey didn't forget
their ham radio roots, they are happy to sell parts in onezes to
hobby buyers today.
 
"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote in message
news:qh3bvpjr78.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com...
Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.
Does anybody remember the days of Allied and Lafayette?
 
"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote in message
news:qh3bvpjr78.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com...
Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen
way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others
in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of
thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.
That's pure nonsense. I've tried to get specialized semi's from both,
and having failed that, I've found what I needed at other online
sources. One recent example comes to mind: Futurlec. www.futurlec.com
has a number of things much cheaper than D-K or M - and they're
international.

Another is ultrabright LEDs. D-K or M have nothing worthwhile. You
have to go to another supplier to get 'em.

And maybe the best example is the source(s) of many of our small qty
parts: Ebay. ;-)

But on Ebay, read *all* the info in the auction. I see shysters,
especially foreign shysters, who will sell you parts dirt cheap, and rip
you off with the shipping/handling. :-(
 
"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421AE92D.6F121965@earthlink.net...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.
.... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:30:27 -0800, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421AE92D.6F121965@earthlink.net...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..
Those janitorial supply guys have *really* high prices. Between
telephone directories, Mouser, Digikey, trade rags, paper packing and
EEM, the recycling box is never hungry. A few printouts don't amount
to much, and the few newspapers tend to get used for packing, which is
lighter than that recycled paper packing that Digikey uses.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:
"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421AE92D.6F121965@earthlink.net...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..
....and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.
 
Bill M wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.


What about all the honest workers like power company employees who have
a job thanks to spam? Should they also "stare to death"?
:)
-Bill
No, just let them catch up on maintenance that gets pushed aside, or
let them go to work for the cable company! :) They are still doing
repairs in Ocala from last year's hurricanes and its almost time for
hurricane season again. I saw some wires still on the ground along I-75
near Gainsville a couple weeks ago that went down during Frances.
Progress energy just repaired a damaged pole near my house that was
damaged during Frances.

--
Beware of those who suffer from delusions of adequacy!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421C7C86.BFF8075F@earthlink.net...

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

Problem is, a lot of the spammers are down there in your area, in Boca
Raton. I wish the hurricanes had wiped them out!
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2004/nf20040915_0180_db035.htm

They interviewed one of the spammers on local TV just before
Hurricane Frances went through. She was bragging about how easy it was
to opt out but couldn't see what was wrong with getting plastered with
her crap in the first place.

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

--
Beware of those who post from srvinet.com!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421F23AA.515FE39E@earthlink.net...
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:421C7C86.BFF8075F@earthlink.net...

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam
died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

Problem is, a lot of the spammers are down there in your area, in
Boca
Raton. I wish the hurricanes had wiped them out!

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2004/nf20040915_0180_db0
35.htm>
They interviewed one of the spammers on local TV just before
Hurricane Frances went through. She was bragging about how easy it
was
to opt out but couldn't see what was wrong with getting plastered with
her crap in the first place.

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to
the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.
Must've been sht Spam Queen. Bitch.
http://spam.surferbeware.com/spam-spam-queen.htm

--
Beware of those who post from srvinet.com!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:53:50 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to
the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

Must've been sht Spam Queen. Bitch.
http://spam.surferbeware.com/spam-spam-queen.htm

The main problem is the morons that comprise the 4 percent that actually
buy crap from the spammers.

FOUR PERCENT! That's a phenomenal return, even for a pre-qualified
mailing list.

As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.

Sigh.
Rich
 
As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.
Maybe there should be a law against buying things from spammers.

And a law against knowingly providing credit card, banking, or Internet (web
hosting, email) services to spammers.

Especially the last of these.
 
Rich Grise wrote:
The main problem is the morons that comprise the 4 percent that actually
buy crap from the spammers.

FOUR PERCENT! That's a phenomenal return, even for a pre-qualified
mailing list.

As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.

Sigh.
Rich
We should just declare all spammers as terrorist and turn the world's
military loose on them. They obviously use "Weapons of Massive
Disruption"!

--
Beware of those who post from srvinet.com!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.02.25.21.57.06.461614@example.net...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:53:50 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until
midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to
the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

Must've been sht Spam Queen. Bitch.
http://spam.surferbeware.com/spam-spam-queen.htm

The main problem is the morons that comprise the 4 percent that
actually
buy crap from the spammers.

FOUR PERCENT! That's a phenomenal return, even for a pre-qualified
mailing list.

As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's
like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.

Sigh.
Rich
Make everyone take the Boulder Pledge.
 
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:40:42 -0500, mc wrote:

As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.

Maybe there should be a law against buying things from spammers.

And a law against knowingly providing credit card, banking, or Internet (web
hosting, email) services to spammers.

Especially the last of these.
There already are, if not laws, at least terms of service that prohibit
sending spam - in the US. They don't have any effect on the spammers in,
say, Elbonia, however. This is why I'm in favor of some kind of central
"spammer-list", where people can download the week's list of what IPs
should be just dropped at the firewall. I have a "Blacklist" now that's
8585 entries long. Would you like me to post it?

I don't actually need it, though, since I don't go online with Windoze
any more, and I don't answer spam. It's kinda weird, though, to get
empty popups. ;-) (the sponsoring page can have a little popup script,
that opens a second window, and tries to show a page from a blacklisted
spammer.)

Thanks,
Rich
 
In <pan.2005.02.26.08.41.16.286280@example.net> (rec.radio.amateur.homebrew), Rich Grise wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:39:33 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark

Make everyone take the Boulder Pledge.

WTF "Boulder Pledge?"
Google can be _your_ friend, too.

"Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me
as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor will I forward
chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large
numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the
online community."

<http://www.panix.com/~tbetz/boulder.shtml>

--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin
 

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