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David L. Jones

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I just noticed an ad for Altronics on Facebook
It's Altronics Jim, but not as we know it!
http://www.altronics.net.au

It's owned by a couple of guys in QLD.

Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using the
Altronics name...

Dave.

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"David L. Jones"
I just noticed an ad for Altronics on Facebook

It's Altronics Jim, but not as we know it!

http://www.altronics.net.au

It's owned by a couple of guys in QLD.
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** Andrew Cormack and Alan Spiers - right ?

Aka " A&A Multimedia" .

Bet they are just the guys who put up the web site and registered the dot
net.


Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using the
Altronics name...
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** Absobloominlutely !!!



..... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using the
Altronics name...

** Absobloominlutely !!!
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Truth is, Jack can't do anything about it.

There are two Dontronics in the world, myself and one registered to a
South Australian TV repair company.

Google: "dontronics south australia"

I contacted Business registrations (this is way back in 1995) to find
out that each registration is only a state registration. There is no
such thing as an Australian national business registration, so every
state and territory can register the same business name.

At the time, I spoke to the "Don" of Dontronics in S.A., he was also
amazed, however as we didn't see a conflict of interest, we ignored it.
Mind you, if there was, it could have been very different.

Doesn't stop me getting the spam-phishing from China such as, "We have a
customer wishes to register the domains dontronics.com.cn, jp, .co.uk,
etc., etc. and for $75USD each domain, we can register these on your
behalf". :)

Gee, thanks me old china!

Cheers Don...



--
Don McKenzie

Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam
No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam

Breakout, Prototype, Development, & Robotics Boards:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/sparkfun-electronics.html
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

I just noticed an ad for Altronics on Facebook

It's Altronics Jim, but not as we know it!

http://www.altronics.net.au

It's owned by a couple of guys in QLD.


** Andrew Cormack and Alan Spiers - right ?

Aka " A&A Multimedia" .

Bet they are just the guys who put up the web site and registered the
dot net.


Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using
the Altronics name...


** Absobloominlutely !!!
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You're not wrong, Phil.
 
"Don McKenzie"
Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using the
Altronics name...

** Absobloominlutely !!!

Truth is, Jack can't do anything about it.
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** I think he very much can.


There are two Dontronics in the world, myself and one registered to a
South Australian TV repair company.
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** No conflict - so no issue.

If there was a serious conflict, then one business can be made to change its
name.


In any case, the only " Altronics " registered with ASIC under:

"Altronics Pty Ltd " & " Altronic Distributors Pty Ltd ".

BTW:

This is the guy in Brisbane who put up the site " www.altronics.net.au".

http://www.spiers.net.au/index.html




..... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don McKenzie"

In any case, the only " Altronics " registered with ASIC under:

"Altronics Pty Ltd " & " Altronic Distributors Pty Ltd ".

BTW:

This is the guy in Brisbane who put up the site " www.altronics.net.au".

http://www.spiers.net.au/index.html
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Mine is registered as a business under the business names act 1962, not
as a company, so maybe Jack can do something.

And why did he use .net.au?

Will be very... interesting....

I'm sure there is more to come.

Don...


--
Don McKenzie

Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam
No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam

Breakout, Prototype, Development, & Robotics Boards:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/sparkfun-electronics.html
 
"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
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Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using the
Altronics name...

** Absobloominlutely !!!

Truth is, Jack can't do anything about it.
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**Truth is, he can and probably will do quite a lot. Lawyers and money can
achieve a great deal in these situations. Mr O'Donnell probably has plenty
of both.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Don McKenzie wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don McKenzie"

In any case, the only " Altronics " registered with ASIC under:

"Altronics Pty Ltd " & " Altronic Distributors Pty Ltd ".

BTW:

This is the guy in Brisbane who put up the site "
www.altronics.net.au". http://www.spiers.net.au/index.html

Mine is registered as a business under the business names act 1962,
not as a company, so maybe Jack can do something.

And why did he use .net.au?
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Because .com and .com.au were taken, and they knew it!

If A&A multimedia are just the innocent web designer here, then they should
have at least advised their client that it's probably not kosher to run a
retail business from a .net.au domain, especially given that another
established company already has the same existing domain name.

Also if I was the client I'd question as to why there are Facebook ads
already when the website isn't even finished. Not even basic contact or
"about" details.

Also, A&A have registered the clients domain name entirely in their name. I
don't know if this is normal practice, but I was of the understanding that
it goes in the clients name and you are just listed as the technical
contact.

Will be very... interesting....

I'm sure there is more to come.
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No doubt!

Dave.

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David L. Jones wrote:

Also, A&A have registered the clients domain name entirely in their name. I
don't know if this is normal practice, but I was of the understanding that
it goes in the clients name and you are just listed as the technical
contact.
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I doubt that any business in their right mind, would want the web
designer to have control of the domain name.

Unless of course it was the same person, or the client was very naive in
common sense business practices.

Don...


--
Don McKenzie

Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam
No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam

Breakout, Prototype, Development, & Robotics Boards:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/sparkfun-electronics.html
 
"David L. Jones"

http://www.altronics.net.au
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** If you look at the page on car DVD players - the units offered have
screens attached to a 2-DIN box.

This means they will be visible to a car's driver.

It's illegal in Australia to drive a car with such a screen operating and
visible to the driver.

The ones usually offered for sale here have remote screens that attach to
the back of front seat head rests or else the roof of the car.

What gives ??


..... Phil
 
"Mike Warren"
Phil Allison wrote:

http://www.altronics.net.au

** If you look at the page on car DVD players - the units offered have
screens attached to a 2-DIN box.

This means they will be visible to a car's driver.

It's illegal in Australia to drive a car with such a screen operating and
visible to the driver.

The ones usually offered for sale here have remote screens that attach to
the back of front seat head rests or else the roof of the car.

What gives ??


They have a screen disable wire that's /supposed/ to be connected to
the hand brake.
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** So it goes ON only when the brake is engaged ??

Why would anyone *actually* buy one with that massive draw back ??

Are handymen installers likely to wire it up like that ???

Shouldn't the advertising contain that crucial info ??????



....... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:

"David L. Jones"

http://www.altronics.net.au


** If you look at the page on car DVD players - the units offered have
screens attached to a 2-DIN box.

This means they will be visible to a car's driver.

It's illegal in Australia to drive a car with such a screen operating and
visible to the driver.

The ones usually offered for sale here have remote screens that attach to
the back of front seat head rests or else the roof of the car.

What gives ??
Click to expand...
They have a screen disable wire that's /supposed/ to be connected to
the hand brake.

--
- Mike
 
Phil Allison wrote:

"Mike Warren"
Phil Allison wrote:
The ones usually offered for sale here have remote screens that attach to
the back of front seat head rests or else the roof of the car.

What gives ??


They have a screen disable wire that's supposed to be connected to
the hand brake.


** So it goes ON only when the brake is engaged ??
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Yes.


Why would anyone actually buy one with that massive draw back ??
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I don't know. A lot of these units also use the screen to display
normal stereo system info like radio frequency/CD tracks etc. That
still works even with the park brake wire grounded.


Are handymen installers likely to wire it up like that ???
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I very much doubt it. :)


Shouldn't the advertising contain that crucial info ??????
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That would be nice, wouldn't it? :)


--
- Mike
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Mike Warren"
Phil Allison wrote:

http://www.altronics.net.au
** If you look at the page on car DVD players - the units offered have
screens attached to a 2-DIN box.

This means they will be visible to a car's driver.

It's illegal in Australia to drive a car with such a screen operating and
visible to the driver.

The ones usually offered for sale here have remote screens that attach to
the back of front seat head rests or else the roof of the car.

What gives ??

They have a screen disable wire that's /supposed/ to be connected to
the hand brake.


** So it goes ON only when the brake is engaged ??

Why would anyone *actually* buy one with that massive draw back ??

Are handymen installers likely to wire it up like that ???

Shouldn't the advertising contain that crucial info ??????



...... Phil

Plenty on the market they don't mention that they are illegal to use on
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the move.

https://shop.1wow.com.au/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=25
 
DavidW wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

I just noticed an ad for Altronics on Facebook

It's Altronics Jim, but not as we know it!

http://www.altronics.net.au

It's owned by a couple of guys in QLD.


** Andrew Cormack and Alan Spiers - right ?

Aka " A&A Multimedia" .

Bet they are just the guys who put up the web site and registered the
dot net.


Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using
the Altronics name...


** Absobloominlutely !!!

You're not wrong, Phil.
Click to expand...
I'm disappointed that Phil didn't take a bite.
 
"DavidW"
DavidW wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"David L. Jones"

I just noticed an ad for Altronics on Facebook

It's Altronics Jim, but not as we know it!

http://www.altronics.net.au

It's owned by a couple of guys in QLD.


** Andrew Cormack and Alan Spiers - right ?

Aka " A&A Multimedia" .

Bet they are just the guys who put up the web site and registered the
dot net.


Perhaps old Jack O'Donnell might have something to say about using
the Altronics name...


** Absobloominlutely !!!

You're not wrong, Phil.

I'm disappointed that Phil didn't take a bite.
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** Bite who ??

I'm waiting to see who is lurking behind this scam.

BTW

My info is that the REAL Altronics are, as the famous lady said,

" ... not amused ".




...... Phil
 
"Phil Allison"

http://www.altronics.net.au


** I'm waiting to see who is lurking behind this scam.
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** Who feels there are same spooky parallels with this Chinese site ??

http://www.chinavasion.com/


Who woulda thunk......



...... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Phil Allison"

http://www.altronics.net.au


** I'm waiting to see who is lurking behind this scam.


** Who feels there are same spooky parallels with this Chinese site ??

http://www.chinavasion.com/
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It's obviously all just part of some big affiliate thing, there are probably
dozens or hundreds of websites with the same content and stuff for sale.
That's why the altronics.net.au stuff is shipped direct from the main
provider in China. All one needs to do is set up an affiliate website and
watch the bucks roll in, they don't have to lift a finger. But that won't
happen because odds are the real Altronics will get them shut down before
they even get it operational.

Dave.

--
================================================
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com
 
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Phil Allison wrote:
"Phil Allison"

http://www.altronics.net.au


** I'm waiting to see who is lurking behind this scam.


** Who feels there are same spooky parallels with this Chinese site ??

http://www.chinavasion.com/

It's obviously all just part of some big affiliate thing, there are
probably dozens or hundreds of websites with the same content and stuff
for sale. That's why the altronics.net.au stuff is shipped direct from the
main provider in China. All one needs to do is set up an affiliate website
and watch the bucks roll in, they don't have to lift a finger. But that
won't happen because odds are the real Altronics will get them shut down
before they even get it operational.

Dave.

--
================================================
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com

Why would you do such an apparently dumb thing? Are original names with
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customer pulling power that hard to come up with?
 
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