Defective meter?

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Claude Hopper

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I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
 
Claude Hopper wrote:

I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh
a month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR,
TV, Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion
detectors. With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is
very slow. So I shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors.
Meter still spins. Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that
off, meter still spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off,
meter still spins. I can't think of anything else. I shut off the
Mains 100 amp breaker and guess what? The goddamn meter still spins,
though slightly, about 30 seconds a click. So nothing is on and my
meter spins, what is it, the meter itself? I'm paying for the power
company's meter power? Check your meter by shutting of your main
breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
Click to expand...
If you have killed the main breaker then it should be dead ! I would be
looking for a defective meter or some kind of leakage on your side
between the meter and breaker. Possibly a defective breaker, though
unlikely.

I have seen leakage on long lines, a few feet, due to damp/moisture in
the cable.

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Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
Click to expand...
Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?

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Claude Hopper wrote:

I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
LOL
Click to expand...
they put in a shunt at the Box! :)


http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"
 
CJT wrote:
Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.

Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?
Click to expand...
I bought this house 2 years ago which had all new wiring, new panel and
everything is shiny new inside the box. It's a 'spinning disk meter'.
A digital might not even show this leakage.
 
Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> writes:

CJT wrote:
Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.

Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?


I bought this house 2 years ago which had all new wiring, new panel and
everything is shiny new inside the box. It's a 'spinning disk meter'.
A digital might not even show this leakage.
Click to expand...
Trace the main cable from the meter to the breaker box and make sure
there isn't an auxiliary service panel in there.

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Samuel M. Goldwasser wrote:
Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> writes:

CJT wrote:
Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?

I bought this house 2 years ago which had all new wiring, new panel and
everything is shiny new inside the box. It's a 'spinning disk meter'.
A digital might not even show this leakage.

Trace the main cable from the meter to the breaker box and make sure
there isn't an auxiliary service panel in there.

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Click to expand...

No aux panel.Goes from the meter, thru the wall to the basement panel
right behind the wall. It's a short run.
 
"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:K4KdnaQdINVA-mbVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc..
Click to expand...
As I've commented on here before, you may come to regret that. Switch mode
power supplies do not like being fired from a cold start all the time. They
are designed these days with standby efficiency in mind, and the
manufacturers' choices of components, assume that they will be left running
continuously. Most either make use of a 'burst' mode that actually results
in a very low overall standby consumption, or have a separate section which
is just a tiny and very efficient standby supply. Standby modes often also
'mask' important housekeeping tasks, as well as being there to satisfy our
fundamental laziness ...

Most 'secret' power consumption comes from much more power-hungry devices
than these, such as fridges, freezers, central heating pumps, and so on, but
here's a question for you. Since the power and gas utility companies told us
that the 30% hikes in the retail prices of their products were due to the
wholesale cost to them being based on the price of oil, now that this has
come back down to a 5 year low at around $62 a barrel, why are the companies
not now re-cutting our bills by 30% ? Either their prices, and hence ours,
*are* based on the price of oil, or they're not. They can't have it both
ways.

Arfa
 
Arfa Daily wrote:
"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:K4KdnaQdINVA-mbVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc..

As I've commented on here before, you may come to regret that. Switch mode
power supplies do not like being fired from a cold start all the time. They
are designed these days with standby efficiency in mind, and the
manufacturers' choices of components, assume that they will be left running
continuously. Most either make use of a 'burst' mode that actually results
in a very low overall standby consumption, or have a separate section which
is just a tiny and very efficient standby supply. Standby modes often also
'mask' important housekeeping tasks, as well as being there to satisfy our
fundamental laziness ...

Most 'secret' power consumption comes from much more power-hungry devices
than these, such as fridges, freezers, central heating pumps, and so on, but
here's a question for you. Since the power and gas utility companies told us
that the 30% hikes in the retail prices of their products were due to the
wholesale cost to them being based on the price of oil, now that this has
come back down to a 5 year low at around $62 a barrel, why are the companies
not now re-cutting our bills by 30% ? Either their prices, and hence ours,
*are* based on the price of oil, or they're not. They can't have it both
ways.

Arfa
Click to expand...
I noticed that my DVR harddrive NEVER spins down even in standby. I can
hear it spin down when I hit the power strip off button. That should be
part of standby, powering down the HD. If their junk can't stand being
shut down and breaks they will just have to replace it. When I want
something off I mean off, not half off, not one quarter off, I MEAN OFF.
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:55:50 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Since the power and gas utility companies told us
that the 30% hikes in the retail prices of their products were due to the
wholesale cost to them being based on the price of oil, now that this has
come back down to a 5 year low at around $62 a barrel, why are the companies
not now re-cutting our bills by 30% ? Either their prices, and hence ours,
*are* based on the price of oil, or they're not. They can't have it both
ways.
Click to expand...
Power companies buy fuel with long term contracts. If they negotiated
a 5 year contract for a fixed price when the price of fuel was high,
because they were afraid they wouldn't be able to get it at any price,
then their costs will remain high for 5 years. This happens every few
years and makes a great conspiracy theory for market manipulation by
suppliers.

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Claude Hopper wrote:

Samuel M. Goldwasser wrote:

Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> writes:


CJT wrote:

Claude Hopper wrote:

I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.

Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?


I bought this house 2 years ago which had all new wiring, new panel and
everything is shiny new inside the box. It's a 'spinning disk meter'.
A digital might not even show this leakage.

Trace the main cable from the meter to the breaker box and make sure
there isn't an auxiliary service panel in there.

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No aux panel.Goes from the meter, thru the wall to the basement panel
right behind the wall. It's a short run.
If you have a digital read out system with wireless reader in it, you're
Click to expand...
paying for the energy to operate that electronic device.
the supply to operate the meter and transceiver for them to remotely
get the readings with out getting off their fat asses is connected on
the load side of the meter so you pay for it.


http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"
 
Arfa Daily wrote:
"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:K4KdnaQdINVA-mbVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc..

As I've commented on here before, you may come to regret that. Switch mode
power supplies do not like being fired from a cold start all the time. They
are designed these days with standby efficiency in mind, and the
manufacturers' choices of components, assume that they will be left running
continuously. Most either make use of a 'burst' mode that actually results
in a very low overall standby consumption, or have a separate section which
is just a tiny and very efficient standby supply. Standby modes often also
'mask' important housekeeping tasks, as well as being there to satisfy our
fundamental laziness ...

Most 'secret' power consumption comes from much more power-hungry devices
than these, such as fridges, freezers, central heating pumps, and so on, but
here's a question for you. Since the power and gas utility companies told us
that the 30% hikes in the retail prices of their products were due to the
wholesale cost to them being based on the price of oil, now that this has
come back down to a 5 year low at around $62 a barrel, why are the companies
not now re-cutting our bills by 30% ? Either their prices, and hence ours,
*are* based on the price of oil, or they're not. They can't have it both
ways.

Arfa




Yes you can, it is some long time average of the oil price,
Click to expand...
so the current natural gas prices wil keep rising for some time.
Our government just loves the extra income(tax).
 
Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
Click to expand...
Can't help with usage despite main breaker off but with it on you've
probably got a doorbell xformer and perhaps a furnace/AC xformer. Any
light switches with neon glow in the dark features? electric clocks
that don't run on batteries?
 
Claude Hopper wrote:

CJT wrote:

Claude Hopper wrote:

I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.

Look inside your breaker box for lizards, bugs, surge arrestors,
carbonized patches, moisture, etc. on the upstream side of the main
breaker. You could also try snapping the main breakers out completely.

Is it an "old-style" meter or a newer electronic one?



I bought this house 2 years ago which had all new wiring, new panel and
everything is shiny new inside the box. It's a 'spinning disk meter'.
A digital might not even show this leakage.
Click to expand...
If it's that new, it probably has (as another poster noted) remote
readout so they don't have to send out a meter reader. That consumes
power.

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Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in
news:a46dnWwerdL9V2bVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@giganews.com:

I noticed that my DVR harddrive NEVER spins down even in standby. I
can hear it spin down when I hit the power strip off button. That
should be part of standby, powering down the HD. If their junk can't
stand being shut down and breaks they will just have to replace it.
When I want something off I mean off, not half off, not one quarter
off, I MEAN OFF.
Click to expand...
Mine doesn't either. I guess the DVR manufacturers are too stupid to make
the hard disk spin down after 30 minutes of drive inactivity. All the more
reason to spend $500 on a computer-based DVR project.

Off should mean off, as in no current draw. Plugging in a device should
never mean "turn on" either.

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In article <rsQKk.8429$bK.3236@newsfe04.iad>,
Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

If you have a digital read out system with wireless reader in it, you're
paying for the energy to operate that electronic device.
the supply to operate the meter and transceiver for them to remotely
get the readings with out getting off their fat asses is connected on
the load side of the meter so you pay for it.
Click to expand...
Which presumably is less than you would have to pay for the guy to get
off his fat ass and read the meter. One way or the other, you pay for
your meter to be read.

OP: How much money are we talking about, per month, here? Did you figure
that out?
 
In article <a46dnWwerdL9V2bVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:
"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:K4KdnaQdINVA-mbVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc..

As I've commented on here before, you may come to regret that. Switch mode
power supplies do not like being fired from a cold start all the time. They
are designed these days with standby efficiency in mind, and the
manufacturers' choices of components, assume that they will be left running
continuously. Most either make use of a 'burst' mode that actually results
in a very low overall standby consumption, or have a separate section which
is just a tiny and very efficient standby supply. Standby modes often also
'mask' important housekeeping tasks, as well as being there to satisfy our
fundamental laziness ...

Most 'secret' power consumption comes from much more power-hungry devices
than these, such as fridges, freezers, central heating pumps, and so on, but
here's a question for you. Since the power and gas utility companies told us
that the 30% hikes in the retail prices of their products were due to the
wholesale cost to them being based on the price of oil, now that this has
come back down to a 5 year low at around $62 a barrel, why are the companies
not now re-cutting our bills by 30% ? Either their prices, and hence ours,
*are* based on the price of oil, or they're not. They can't have it both
ways.

Arfa





I noticed that my DVR harddrive NEVER spins down even in standby. I can
hear it spin down when I hit the power strip off button. That should be
part of standby, powering down the HD. If their junk can't stand being
shut down and breaks they will just have to replace it. When I want
something off I mean off, not half off, not one quarter off, I MEAN OFF.
Click to expand...
The whole damn idea of having a DVR like a TIVO is to have it on all the
time, ready to capture shows that you program to record etc.....
Pretty retarded to turn it off with a strip and have it not be able to record
the shows that are set to record like season passes, suggestions and the like.
 
In article <48fbf6f9$0$10429$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
Claude Hopper <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in
news:a46dnWwerdL9V2bVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@giganews.com:

I noticed that my DVR harddrive NEVER spins down even in standby. I
can hear it spin down when I hit the power strip off button. That
should be part of standby, powering down the HD. If their junk can't
stand being shut down and breaks they will just have to replace it.
When I want something off I mean off, not half off, not one quarter
off, I MEAN OFF.


Mine doesn't either. I guess the DVR manufacturers are too stupid to make
the hard disk spin down after 30 minutes of drive inactivity. All the more
reason to spend $500 on a computer-based DVR project.

Its needed to run constantly on Tivo's and other similar dvr's so that the 30
Click to expand...
minute buffer can record.

How do you think you can pause, rewind and fast forward with these units?


Off should mean off, as in no current draw. Plugging in a device should
never mean "turn on" either.

Puckdropper
Click to expand...
 
In article <jdRKk.3061$W06.3029@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>, Bennett Price <""bjpriceNOSPAM\"@NOSPAMcal berkeley.edu"> wrote:
Claude Hopper wrote:
I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR, TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.

Can't help with usage despite main breaker off but with it on you've
probably got a doorbell xformer and perhaps a furnace/AC xformer. Any
light switches with neon glow in the dark features? electric clocks
that don't run on batteries?
Click to expand...
Whole house fire detecters?
 
CJT wrote:
Mine doesn't either. I guess the DVR manufacturers are too stupid
to make the hard disk spin down after 30 minutes of drive
inactivity. All the more reason to spend $500 on a computer-based
DVR project.

Most computers will also draw power even when off.
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Depends what you mean by "off".

IMHO, "off" doesn't mean "standby", "sleep","hibernate", or anything else
other than "off". And "off" means just that - no power consumption at all.
If you can't get "off" with a switch on the PC case, just pull the power
plug from the mains supply socket.

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Jeff
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